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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Should I keep wet kit or go with MEVI?

Atm I dont know what to do, since I've been researchin that mevi and wet kit don't work well together. I'm wondering if I should upgrade my fuel pump so i can spray a 175 nitro shot or should i just grab the mevi to go with the Jim Wolfe ECU im gettin. If I go with the MEVI I'll probably just use my nitros for purgin. Let me know what ya think would work best.
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Why are you going with any of that stuff besides NOS?

You say you are getting a 3.5 swap in your sig, but the mevi does not port match the 3.5 so it would never be better than the 00VI (which is cheaper) or the stock 3.5 manifold.

Why are you getting a JWT ECU? Just get e-Manage Ultimate. Yes it is a slightly harder install, but it is 500x better than JWT and costs the same. Then in the future you can get a WB02 and tune BEYOND JWT's sorry world.


What do I recommend? Get your 3.5 swap done, then get your e-Manage Ultimate, get it tuned nicely, then get your NOS.

I have said it 500 times, but the word MEVI should be erased from the dictionary! It is more expensive than 00VI and provides less gains in ALL parts of the powerband versus the 00VI so WHY BOTHER.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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y not Nitrus and MEVI... upgrade pump and injectors AFPR
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by stankonia
Atm I dont know what to do, since I've been researchin that mevi and wet kit don't work well together. I'm wondering if I should upgrade my fuel pump so i can spray a 175 nitro shot or should i just grab the mevi to go with the Jim Wolfe ECU im gettin. If I go with the MEVI I'll probably just use my nitros for purgin. Let me know what ya think would work best.
My dual-stage NX wet installation seems to work pretty well with my MEVI - I haven't gone to 175-shot yet, but my power band is great up to fuel-cut.

But you need a clear plan on what you want to accomplish. MEVI=3.0L only, but it's a bolt-on, not lots of custom work to adapt like the 00VI. High nitrous shots require careful work and attention to details -fuel pump, FPR, tires, hi-octane gas, plugs, heated bottle, etc..

If you get that far, then the EU is next. I'm still running the stock '99 ECU, but extending the rev limiter is my next major goal, and the EU can do that - and lots more.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by scrhale
Why are you getting a JWT ECU? Just get e-Manage Ultimate. Yes it is a slightly harder install, but it is 500x better than JWT and costs the same. Then in the future you can get a WB02 and tune BEYOND JWT's sorry world.


What do I recommend? Get your 3.5 swap done, then get your e-Manage Ultimate, get it tuned nicely, then get your NOS.

I have said it 500 times, but the word MEVI should be erased from the dictionary! It is more expensive than 00VI and provides less gains in ALL parts of the powerband versus the 00VI so WHY BOTHER.
scrhale,

1. Agree with the EU instead of JWT - many times more versatile, and ORGers have shown the way to use it...

2. The 3.5 swap has its problems too. But it's in my future.

3. I like the MEVI - it doesn't require glue to keep it working, or special TBs or adapters and drilling holes in LIMs, or different coils or valve covers. The MEVI is a bolt-on, except for a RPM switch, which is required by both. My powerband seems to be OK.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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Well I accounted information in his sig. He says that the next mods include a 3.5 swap. Why would you purchase/install/bother with an intake manifold that doesn't port match the 3.5 . That would be a waste of time and money. Just get the 3.5 swap done, perfect it with e-Manage, and then you can spray to your heart's content.

I just really hate the idea of getting a MEVI and losing so much low-mid range and needing ECU/tuning to get back to square 1. 00VI provides gains everywhere without the need for tuning to RECOOP what you lost. 3.5 just overrides everything with significantly more power everywhere.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scrhale
Just get the 3.5 swap done, perfect it with e-Manage, and then you can spray to your heart's content.

3.5 just overrides everything with significantly more power everywhere.

Amen, brudder. I was just taking a couple of cheap shots at the 00VI....

But the 3.5 , HS headers, tuned, and w/spray.......... bring on them Chevvies!
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Not to mention it has got to be on the top 10 list for sleepers ... 3.5 swap, stock intake, stock exhaust minus Cattman/HS headers, e-Manage Ultimate, lightweight rims/grippy tires, spray. OMG I want to see that setup.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scrhale
Well I accounted information in his sig. He says that the next mods include a 3.5 swap. Why would you purchase/install/bother with an intake manifold that doesn't port match the 3.5 . That would be a waste of time and money. Just get the 3.5 swap done, perfect it with e-Manage, and then you can spray to your heart's content.

I just really hate the idea of getting a MEVI and losing so much low-mid range and needing ECU/tuning to get back to square 1. 00VI provides gains everywhere without the need for tuning to RECOOP what you lost. 3.5 just overrides everything with significantly more power everywhere.


If you want high end power with out a huge PITA then the MEVI is it, I just finished an 00vi install, and found out my motor is shot to hell now anyways, and i ended up not even hooking up my egr or pcv and it was still a PITA. thats why i hate dandymax and everyone else that makes these great high end upgrades look so dam* easy.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by glenmoormax
If you want high end power with out a huge PITA then the MEVI is it, I just finished an 00vi install, and found out my motor is shot to hell now anyways, and i ended up not even hooking up my egr or pcv and it was still a PITA. thats why i hate dandymax and everyone else that makes these great high end upgrades look so dam* easy.
Ouch - sorry to hear that. All that work - what did you find out about your engine?

Do you want some help finding a junkyard engine??? I know about a '99 w/20K here locally. And does this mean I have first dibs at running 175-shot this season?

I bet, if you asked, the "high-end upgrade" wizards paid a high price for their high performance along the way. I know I'm still paying to learn stuff.....
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scrhale
Not to mention it has got to be on the top 10 list for sleepers ... 3.5 swap, stock intake, stock exhaust minus Cattman/HS headers, e-Manage Ultimate, lightweight rims/grippy tires, spray. OMG I want to see that setup.
I want to be driving it next season. "Just" a fresh 3.5, EU, headers, and I'm there with everything else....
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by glenmoormax
and i ended up not even hooking up my egr or pcv and it was still a PITA.
What was so hard about it? What setup did you go with? I'd also like to know what was wrong with your engine.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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What was so hard about it? What setup did you go with? I'd also like to know what was wrong with your engine.

Argh, well its fustrating because i have not sprayed my 125 shot for a couple months due to one thing or another coming up then I did an interior swap, then I got married etc.

I refill my nitrous bottles and check the motor to make sure everything will be okay, then I have had an 00vi at my house with EVERYTHING to install for over 3 months. Right before installing i had gone on my honeymoon to tahoe and on the way back it seemed like something was wrong. So I think well its got 165,000 miles, and so the 00vi swap will be an opportune time to check on things. After tearing everything off the 6th and 4th cylinder plugs are soaked in oil as expected, valve covers been leaking since i bought the car off my bro in may of 04'. injectors are all f-d up, wonder'd if nitrous had something to do with it. Then this really caught me and jcy98 off gaurd, my fuel selenoid was not connected anymore... Yep, Ive been sprayin a 125 shot without additional fuel. no wonder my car got f'd up. but why now? also, it never detonated on me, never! i needed 3 more f'ing weeks for it to work but it won't. on start up it backfires through the intake a lot and won't keep idling. it is set up exactly like jcy98's and we can't figure it out, but due to the fact that it wasn't 100% with the usim, i don't want to waste time that I don't have on it right now. I feel like dandymax right now, fustrated that it had to happen now, if it happened after oct 23rd i wouldn't have given a shi*, hell i might have gone out on 100 octane and a 175 shot for fun. sorry for the ramble but you gotta play to spray i guess. I really shouldn't be surprised though considering that its the original motor with 165K...

grey99, I appreciate the help with a motor, that is a low mileage vq! I am building a 3.5 right now so i can turbo and spray it, but I get more funds (6XK) on the 23rd and that would have funded the entire rest of the project and bought my wife a car so we don't have to have my little racer be a DD as well. She doens't like driving my truck, or the max anymore and she won't ride my R6 but this next month will be very interesting. We test drove soem g35's, but i am leaning towards getting another 4th gen for her. we'll see what the next month brings. no carpayment FTW!
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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So it wasn't even hard?
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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I'm new to the maxima performance world being that I bought this sleeper from a friend. I'm still trying to figure out what is the best setup power to price ratio. Also where can I find out more info. about the e-manage ultimate all I have read about is the JW ecu. I don't like the OOVI cuz there plastic and was just wondering how durable they are and I thought the MEVI would be easier on me being a bolt on. The VQ35 switch will probably be awhile away from now.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Make your max wet, Mevi is too dry for it.
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
So it wasn't even hard?

ah, yeah...

since i decided to screw the egr and pcv, yeah, it was reltively easy, but getting it to seat correctly and line up took a few tries. When is your going on. You'll love your egr too...
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
scrhale,

1. Agree with the EU instead of JWT - many times more versatile, and ORGers have shown the way to use it...

2. The 3.5 swap has its problems too. But it's in my future.

3. I like the MEVI - it doesn't require glue to keep it working, or special TBs or adapters and drilling holes in LIMs, or different coils or valve covers. The MEVI is a bolt-on, except for a RPM switch, which is required by both. My powerband seems to be OK.
my oo vi ddnt need different valve cover or coils. i didnt use any glue either.nor did i do any drilling

and the good thing is my injector plugs were all ready when i switched to 3.5.

and i didnt have to deal with that vacumm junk the mevi has.

bottom line go with best
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by krismax
and i didnt have to deal with that vacumm junk the mevi has.
My MEVI doesn't use any vacuum to switch over and back........ All electronic, and 100% reliable... and it's not plastic..

OK - end of cheap shots at the 00VI. You earned kudos for breaking trail for the 00VI conversion..
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by stankonia
I'm new to the maxima performance world being that I bought this sleeper from a friend. I'm still trying to figure out what is the best setup power to price ratio. Also where can I find out more info. about the e-manage ultimate all I have read about is the JW ecu. I don't like the OOVI cuz there plastic and was just wondering how durable they are and I thought the MEVI would be easier on me being a bolt on. The VQ35 switch will probably be awhile away from now.

After driving my old car yesterday I would start with the clutch. The OEM replacement slips now on the 1-2 and 2-3 shift if done quickly at high rpms and Im sure wouldn't hold the 75 jets that are in now. Next you have to decide if you are planning on keeping the 3.0 or doing the 3.5 swap. If you are going with the 3.5 I wouldn't get any mods for the car that arent usable once the 3.5 comes (ie any VI) for more power fuel pump, FPR, bottle heater, larger jets. Just be careful that motor does have almost 200K on it.

If you aren't going to swap out for the 3.5 then Id say go with the EU and the 00VI (plus the nitrous list above) and the car would be pretty sick. Its all up to whether or not you are going to do the swap or not.

Just dont make it too sick (i know where you live and I think I still have a key somewhere)
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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I guess I better start saving up for the vq35 swap being the miles I got on it atm. Also is there anyone in the Charlotte,NC area that is able to do one?
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by stankonia
I don't like the OOVI cuz there plastic
Ignorance
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I guess I better start saving up for the vq35 swap being the miles I got on it atm.
How many miles? Unless it's 200k+, then I say more ignorance
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since i decided to screw the egr and pcv, yeah, it was reltively easy, but getting it to seat correctly and line up took a few tries. When is your going on. You'll love your egr too...
Hard getting WHAT exactly to line up? Just curious. Mine is going on this weekend What about "my EGR"? I'm getting rid of mine, I dunno what you mean by loving it
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stankonia
I'm new to the maxima performance world being that I bought this sleeper from a friend. I'm still trying to figure out what is the best setup power to price ratio. Also where can I find out more info. about the e-manage ultimate all I have read about is the JW ecu. I don't like the OOVI cuz there plastic and was just wondering how durable they are and I thought the MEVI would be easier on me being a bolt on. The VQ35 switch will probably be awhile away from now.
plastic IM are simply better from a effiecency standpoint the new dual TB vq 35HR has plastic IM
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Hard getting WHAT exactly to line up? Just curious. Mine is going on this weekend What about "my EGR"? I'm getting rid of mine, I dunno what you mean by loving it
I didn't know if you were hooking your egr back up or not. Your smart and if you tried to do the egr what i meant was have fun with it, its a PITA. It took a couple tries to get the 00vi to line up on the LIM. that is all.
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by glenmoormax
I didn't know if you were hooking your egr back up or not. Your smart and if you tried to do the egr what i meant was have fun with it, its a PITA. It took a couple tries to get the 00vi to line up on the LIM. that is all.
Ahh, I see. Yeah, I'm getting rid of my EGR with this (minus the sensors and what not needed to keep it from throwing a code).
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