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Old 10-07-2006, 08:40 PM
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Random New 00VI Information

This is just a mishmosh of stuff I'm learning during my swap and testing out. For example, using the 4th gen rear coils on the 5th gen rear valve cover:



Assuming it clears ok, I'll just be making the bolt hole a little bigger on the coil pack itself then using a longer bolt. I may need to cut the rear of the coil pack off where the other bolt hole is though, we'll see.

Tommorrow morning I hope to have done some weighing because I'd like to also post weight differences between the 00VI and 4th gen manifolds.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:39 PM
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also that there is a vacuum line that goes to the fuel rail. dont forget that. so there is a use for that spare nipple on top of the manifold.
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Finally weighed both manifolds. Here's the result:

-Bare USDM manifold: ~11 lbs.
-Bare 00VI (w/ VIAS): ~12 lbs.

So the all-mighty plastic manifold actually weighs more! It's bigger and has the VIAS on it, though, so I'm sure that more than accounts for why it's heavier.
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:58 PM
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weight is irrelevant imo.. its the fact that it flows better with the dual runners.. and the composite material doesnt get as hot as the aluminum one.. having the VIAS on it probably makes up for the weight..
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just out of curiosity.. how much have you spent so far on your 00VI swap??
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Finally weighed both manifolds. Here's the result:

-Bare USDM manifold: ~11 lbs.
-Bare 00VI (w/ VIAS): ~12 lbs.

So the all-mighty plastic manifold actually weighs more! It's bigger and has the VIAS on it, though, so I'm sure that more than accounts for why it's heavier.
i knew it was heavier, but oh well.
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1lbs.. pssh
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 97Maximus
weight is irrelevant imo.. its the fact that it flows better with the dual runners.. and the composite material doesnt get as hot as the aluminum one.. having the VIAS on it probably makes up for the weight..
Never said it was relevant. It's just some interesting info for those always trying to say the 00VI is lighter because it's plastic.
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nah I though it was not much differance in them. Yeah you would think that the 00vi was lighter because of it being plastic, but they had to make it think to be durable!
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:25 PM
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and dont use that big gasket that was between the USIM and the LIM like i did...cause apparently your not supposed to and maybe thats causing my leak.
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theres a thin gasket that you should replace that big one with.
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Originally Posted by chillin014
and dont use that big gasket that was between the USIM and the LIM like i did...cause apparently your not supposed to and maybe thats causing my leak.
............ there is already a gasket on the 00VI.......
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
............ there is already a gasket on the 00VI.......

exactly...
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:00 PM
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Yeah I bought a new one that goes into the 00vi, if that is enough then I'm gonna take out the thick rubber one.
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Not that that is new information, but this is a good of place as any to post it. That will definitely be going on my site soon enough. Haven't been able to make updates to it because I've been doing my own 00VI swap.
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nice work tatanko ! shame about that one pound, aye ? lol ! how are you finding the swap, and which setup are you using that you discuss on your site? It appears I will be doing 00VI setup #2, but wondering what is the TB blockoff plate ?
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
nice work tatanko ! shame about that one pound, aye ? lol ! how are you finding the swap, and which setup are you using that you discuss on your site? It appears I will be doing 00VI setup #2, but wondering what is the TB blockoff plate ?
I LOVE the swap. The extra power over the USIM is great. I went with setup #6, but used my 4th gen rear coil packs and blocked off the EGR (it's still there, but the guide tube port is blocked off on the manifold and the valve itself has a blockoff plate on it).

The throttlebody blockoff plate I'm referring to in #2 can be found on the picture of the '00 throttlebody on the universal parts list page. It simply blocks off the port on the TB that would normally be used by the '00 IACV.
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Regarding chillen's post before...where does the vacuum line from the fuel rails go? Also, Tatanko I know you said you ported the manifolds...where was this done?
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Old 10-15-2006, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Regarding chillen's post before...where does the vacuum line from the fuel rails go? Also, Tatanko I know you said you ported the manifolds...where was this done?
I don't know where everyone else had been putting it, but I know chillin014 and I both used the nipple labeled #2 on my site.

I ported/polished my manifold very amateurly (is that word?) in my own bedroom with a dremel and many different grits of sandpaper.
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Ok I need to use that #2 for the PCV hose. Is that the extra tube for the Cali spec?
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Ok I need to use that #2 for the PCV hose. Is that the extra tube for the Cali spec?
Nope, all cars need some sort of vacuum going to the fuel rail. For Cali's, we have to put a T on that line to use the same vacuum source for the FPR (on the fuel rail) and something else EVAP-related I believe.
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Damn I guess I'll have to drill a hole anyway now. How big is the nipple for the fuel vacuum?
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what is the vacuum for on the fuel rail?
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Damn I guess I'll have to drill a hole anyway now. How big is the nipple for the fuel vacuum?
Couldn't tell you an exact size. VERY tiny, though (1/8"?).
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what is the vacuum for on the fuel rail?
The FPR uses it. The FPR is on the end of the REAR bank's rail.
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ok, i know where it at, but what i meant was more like, why does it need vacuum? does the fuel pump and all that take care of that or what?
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
ok, i know where it at, but what i meant was more like, why does it need vacuum? does the fuel pump and all that take care of that or what?
I'm not really sure how the FPR works, but I can tell you it uses vacuum probably to move something inside of it to regulate the pressure. How, again, I don't know.
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So will anything over 1/8 not work or mess things up?
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
So will anything over 1/8 not work or mess things up?
Just stick with the correct size and you'll be fine
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Fpr

Originally Posted by Tatanko
I'm not really sure how the FPR works, but I can tell you it uses vacuum probably to move something inside of it to regulate the pressure. How, again, I don't know.
With a strong idle vacuum the FPR keeps the FP low; as you bring up the revs the vacuum is reduced and the FPR causes the FP to increase. The ECU is programmed to expect that kind of increase in the FP so as to be able to supply the correct amount of fuel relative to the air and the ignition timing.
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Originally Posted by Curt
With a strong idle vacuum the FPR keeps the FP low; as you bring up the revs the vacuum is reduced and the FPR causes the FP to increase. The ECU is programmed to expect that kind of increase in the FP so as to be able to supply the correct amount of fuel relative to the air and the ignition timing.
There you have it, folks. Thanks, Curt
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Curt's got all the answers....
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