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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Another Complete 00VI Swap!!

Well guys.. thanks for all of your help.. My 00VI swap is finally complete now.. after a couple of hit and miss trys i finally got it fully complete.. thanks also to my buddy blake (xlcrew) for hangin in there like a true friend.. after the long nights and all the headaches.. but i can finally say it was well worth it.. and now i cant wait to get my new rpm switch in so i can fine tune the activation point.. and sooner or later get a vafc.. after i get some more spare time ill post some pics of the swap..
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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i will say that the car is a little bit more fun to drive now, and it will get a little bit better as the ECU learns everything. it was a bit trying with the install but some of it was our fault in not reading enough and the other was just plain bad luck, but now we got it up and running great. we ran his car against mine and i was able to pull him but it was still fun. it was a fun expirience and i would like to do it again someday. to all of you that plan on doing this do some homework and read all the info you need is here on the .org Jason glad you like it and now we need to go back to thunder valley and see what you run.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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sounds good ! im working on being one of the next guys to complete the install. get rpm switch and snag that 30 hp up top ! shift_gone !
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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oh i have one right now.. just dont like it.. so im gettin a new one.. but i have to wait for it.. its on backorder at the moment.. the extra 30 is like heaven.. youll be in love the furst time you feel it..
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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I thought you were already running an rpm switch? Which one did you decide? I'm hesitant about buying the MSD digital now just because of the extra cash...but I'll probably buy it anyway haha
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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I thought you were already running an rpm switch? Which one did you decide? I'm hesitant about buying the MSD digital now just because of the extra cash...but I'll probably buy it anyway haha
Save up for a VAFC2
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Yeah I'm not putting of the swap for months just to save for the v-afc II. I'll get one later.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Congrats on the swap and welcome to the club
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Do you mind touching on some of the problems you encountered?
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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cdq2125 - im not to interested in spending $7-10 whenever i want to change my rpm activation point.. these 'pills' are killing my wallet so i am going with the summit since it has ***** you can adjust.. yeah i didnt want to spend that much either for the digital.. a lil overkill to me..

freeway - just problems with turning the lower and filling in the old holes to retap the new ones.. first i tried jb weld.. didnt hold.. then i welded them.. it still works so far.. also had to rework my vacuum nipples and locations a lil.. not that big of a deal.. just small stuff..
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Talking about the holes....did you have it redrilled by stephen?
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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welcome to the club did you do a full dek swap or just the 00 intake?
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 04:28 AM
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a lil overkill to me..
Yeah but it looks cool
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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cdq2125 - no i did it all myself.. i have a machine shop i can use here.. so that helped out a lot..

93turbogxe - no just the manifold..

tatanko - i guess you got me there.. haha..
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Gotcha. Stephen is drilling mine so I hope I don't need to worry about filling holes and all.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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just out of curiosity.. do you know what he is filling the old holes with? and how much are you paying him to do this??
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I dont know what he's filling with. PM him, he should get right back to you. He's charging $75 shipped. Not a bad price since I didnt have the specs to drill.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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I dont know what he's filling with. PM him, he should get right back to you. He's charging $75 shipped. Not a bad price since I didnt have the specs to drill.
He's filling the old holes with these little metal "plugs." They look like they screw down into the existing threaded hole, and have a place at the top for you to insert a hex key to screw them down into the hole.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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That would be it haha. Thanks Tatanko. Did you have to do anything else with the LIM from Stephen? Filling anything or what not?
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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no if he is doing that to the old holes.. then that fills them.. and he tapps new ones for the 00VI from a template he has or something.. sounds like a deal..

hey tatanko.. has anyone ever gotten a check engine light with a transmission code after doing the swap?? oddly enough i have one.. i dont have a clue what it could be..
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
He's filling the old holes with these little metal "plugs." They look like they screw down into the existing threaded hole, and have a place at the top for you to insert a hex key to screw them down into the hole.

They're called threaded inserts. Couple of different ones out there that most knowledgable automotive machine shops can fill you in on (especially shops specializing in air cooled aluminum engine blocks). Much, much better than the old standby, Heli-Coils. Time-Sert is one tradename, and Steve uses a different but similar-in-concept brand. Google them.
Once you have a template for exactly where they need to go, and you have the right tools (machine-shop type), it's pretty easy to do. And if you want to make absolutely sure that you have it done right and don't have it coming back to bite you in the butt down the road a piece, what Steve does for the price he's charging is a real bargain
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Yeah the price is fine and I've been told he does great work so I trust him
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That would be it haha. Thanks Tatanko. Did you have to do anything else with the LIM from Stephen? Filling anything or what not?
No extra work involved!
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hey tatanko.. has anyone ever gotten a check engine light with a transmission code after doing the swap?? oddly enough i have one.. i dont have a clue what it could be..
Should be completely unrelated to the manifold swap.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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fantastic. Pat the site is looking good. I like the new style you got going on.
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fantastic. Pat the site is looking good. I like the new style you got going on.
Thanks. Finally got around to reorganizing it a bit and making things easier to find.

Up next, shift_fast
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I was thinking about that shift fast mod, but since I changed my shifter I think it's pretty easy to shift it. I dont want to mess around with things too much yet. I'll def. check out how you do it tho. Maybe it'll spark my interest then.

Pat I never asked if you got any good up close pics of the swap...I'd like to see some upclose ones...
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I was thinking about that shift fast mod, but since I changed my shifter I think it's pretty easy to shift it. I dont want to mess around with things too much yet. I'll def. check out how you do it tho. Maybe it'll spark my interest then.

Pat I never asked if you got any good up close pics of the swap...I'd like to see some upclose ones...
I'll be doing it in the next couple weeks, only because it seems I can do it "cheaply." (I'm currently trying not to spend money on the car, but it's easy to get bored, too). If I do it, I'm definitely making it more user-friendly and taking more pics/making more diagrams so the common person can actually make sense of it.

As far as the pics, I'm sending you a PM.
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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are you guys talking about the drop resistor mod??
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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are you guys talking about the drop resistor mod??
Nope. Surely you've heard of the shift_fast mod
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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97maximus- how did you deal w/ the pcv issue? did you modify the 4th gen rear valve cover or use a 5th gen one? also what gen TB are you using and IACV?
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I'm going with the 5th cover just because it's easier. No modifing the pcv nipple or the cover itself.
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i used the 4th gen rear valve cover.. cause i was too cheap to but a 5th gen one.. haha.. anyways.. what i did was went and bought an elbow that would fit where the original pcv valve goes.. and then ran an inline pcv.. no certain one in particular.. just one that had nipples the same size as the hose i was using to run from the valve cover to the UIM.. if that makes sense.. a little ghetto.. but it works.. actually me and my friend who helped with the swap like to call it 'custom' haha.. im using a 5th gen TB with a 4th gen IACV with an adapter plate.. so that i can connect the IACV to the UIM.. the same thing stephen max machines for everyone.. i made it myself in the machine shop at OU..

tatanko - nope never have.. what does it involve?

ceasars chariot - the thing i would like to see a diagram for is all the small hoses (1/4") that originally connect to the midpipe and so on.. how they hook up to everything afterwards.. also make sure you put your 4th gen tps on the new TB.. the 5th gen will work but will throw a code..
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Yeah Pat should be taking some pics for me, more up close shots of hoses because thats the one part of the swap no one really explains. What hoses really hook up afterward. I need to pop the 4th gen tps on my pathy tb too.
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tatanko - nope never have.. what does it involve?
It's a setup of switches to manually control which gear your auto is in (1 through 3, no one has done 1 through 4 yet due to how it's set up). Instead of using your shifter, you use a little switch that locks it into a particular gear and shifts at full pressure (like the DR mod) but the advantage is even quicker, more consistent shifts and the ability to keep it in gear and start in any gear (whereas if you put your shifter in 2, that merely LIMITS it to 2nd gear, it still starts in 1st then shifts to 2nd and can downshift under heavy throttle at low speeds).
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Originally Posted by 97Maximus
i used the 4th gen rear valve cover.. cause i was too cheap to but a 5th gen one.. haha.. anyways.. what i did was went and bought an elbow that would fit where the original pcv valve goes.. and then ran an inline pcv.. no certain one in particular.. just one that had nipples the same size as the hose i was using to run from the valve cover to the UIM.. if that makes sense.. a little ghetto.. but it works.. actually me and my friend who helped with the swap like to call it 'custom' haha.. im using a 5th gen TB with a 4th gen IACV with an adapter plate.. so that i can connect the IACV to the UIM.. the same thing stephen max machines for everyone.. i made it myself in the machine shop at OU..

tatanko - nope never have.. what does it involve?

ceasars chariot - the thing i would like to see a diagram for is all the small hoses (1/4") that originally connect to the midpipe and so on.. how they hook up to everything afterwards.. also make sure you put your 4th gen tps on the new TB.. the 5th gen will work but will throw a code..

do you have a pic or part# and make of that elbow you're using for the pcv? i think a lot of people on here would find that useful, as everywhere i've looked i haven't found an elbow that fits under the 00vi. and are there any leaks?
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Pat has that information on his site....
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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nice! so a homemade sequential shift mod that also makes it shift fast in the process.. correct? thats sounds awesome.. where is the write-up at?
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Pat has that information on his site....
Not on specific elbows, where to get them, etc., though.
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nice! so a homemade sequential shift mod that also makes it shift fast in the process.. correct? thats sounds awesome.. where is the write-up at?
The beginnings of one are on my site, in the new Auto section. It isn't done yet, though. Should be finished tonight when I get done wiring everything into the car.
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nice job man.. anything to help our slow *** trannies out.. i may have to look into this after you get finished.. i hate having to rely on my tranny ecu to decide which gear it needs to go into to.. itd be nice to think for it.. haha.. although is there anyway to do this without it 'always' being at full line pressure??
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although is there anyway to do this without it 'always' being at full line pressure??
Possibly using resistors or something. I've been looking into it, but right now I just want to get this finished first. I got mine all done and wired up last night and it turns out I tapped into the wrong wires so it doesn't work yet

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