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Old 05-12-2008, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911 View Post
No the shifter assembly bolt holes are different. You might be able to use the cables tho
I used an 04 shifter and cables in miine. It was a steal at $40 for the set.

I cut off the two chassis studs, drilled holes and thru-bolted it. Works great.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92 View Post
I used an 04 shifter and cables in miine. It was a steal at $40 for the set.

I cut off the two chassis studs, drilled holes and thru-bolted it. Works great.
Really? Interesting, this gives a much cheaper option for swapping. If the 6th gen ones work, the sentra one might work as well and they are pretty cheap from the dealer
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911 View Post
Really? Interesting, this gives a much cheaper option for swapping. If the 6th gen ones work, the sentra one might work as well and they are pretty cheap from the dealer
When I received the shifter/cable assembly, I did not know what chassis they were out of until I checked the part numbers.

IIRC the A33B transmission hole cover has to be rotated 180 degrees for the A34 shift mechanism to have its full range of motion.

The A34 shift cables may also be a touch longer than the A33B ones. I have never had them side by side but they are longer than they need to be for an A32 application.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD View Post
o snap, no wonder i had to "modify" my socket to use the 5spd bolts. i like your choice in laptops.

I second that, I have the same laptop and love it.

Nice writeup! For me its either between rebuilding my 5sp at the end of this summer or just doing a 6sp swap!
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Can you to this conversion straight from auto? I would assume I would need to use some steps from the Auto to 5spd swap to prep? can anyone tell me which ones? I was planning on turboing but I'm not sure if I can justify paying $600 on z32 injectors when I could get a VQ35 for that and I've heard the auto's dont deal with that swap well.
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Originally Posted by eng92 View Post
I used an 04 shifter and cables in miine. It was a steal at $40 for the set.

I cut off the two chassis studs, drilled holes and thru-bolted it. Works great.
How do you go about installing the Vehicle Speed Sensor on the 6spd tranny, or do you do something else to send that signal to the ECU/gauge cluster?

This will be on my full VQ35 swap also, if that makes any difference.

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Old 06-28-2008, 04:45 PM
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32702-AD012 Part number for the speedometer pinion you will need to use. Only comes on the L31 altima 6-speed. A33B and A34 6MT's just have a cover (removeable) there.
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Old 06-28-2008, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology View Post
32702-AD012 Part number for the speedometer pinion you will need to use. Only comes on the L31 altima 6-speed. A33B and A34 6MT's just have a cover (removeable) there.
This may be self-explanatory once I get the part, but is it pretty easy to figure out how to put it on? Do I just attach the pinion to the tranny and then the VSS attaches onto that? And where exactly is the cover located on the transmission?

I apologize in advance if I'm asking dumb questions. I'm really just starting to understand this whole swap procedure.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:13 AM
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Is there something special I'm supposed to be looking for with regards to the frame transmission mount? I was talking to DaveB trying to order it from him but he said there's nothing to order unless I bought the frame rail which is like $300. He said from what he was seeing that the mount is also welded to the frame on the 5.5 gen.

So I must not be clear on something. I am supposed to be getting a 6spd frame transmission mount from an 02/03 maxima correct?

How were you guys able to come up with this part?
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92 View Post
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Thank you very much!
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:14 PM
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Just to clarify, unlike the A32/A33 the bracket bolts to the transmission and the mount itself bolts to the frame. The part number listed is for the former.
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology View Post
Just to clarify, unlike the A32/A33 the bracket bolts to the transmission and the mount itself bolts to the frame. The part number listed is for the former.
I have the bracket that bolts to the transmission. I need the part that bolts to the frame.

So then is 11253-AU400 the wrong part? If so, does anyone know what the part number is for the mount that bolts to the frame?
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Originally Posted by nismology View Post
11220-5Y700
Thanks a great deal for the info. I almost ordered the wrong part.

But all this is good info for any future swappers.

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Old 11-06-2008, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hacim105 View Post
Thanks a great deal for the info. I almost ordered the wrong part.

But all this is good info for any future swappers.
maybe i missed it but i dont see anything about axles.is there
a difference with 4th gen & 6speed axles
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:30 AM
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It says in the first post that 6-speed axles are required.
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my tranny is giving me problems so i want to swap to a 6spd, i just want to clear a couple of things up: the 5spd bellhousing will not work at all correct? and the specVs 6spd is most likely going to be my choice since im guaranteed a HLSD and they are cheaper, so will i use the 6spd maxima axles or the specvs axles?
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Originally Posted by Crusher103 View Post
my tranny is giving me problems so i want to swap to a 6spd, i just want to clear a couple of things up: the 5spd bellhousing will not work at all correct? and the specVs 6spd is most likely going to be my choice since im guaranteed a HLSD and they are cheaper, so will i use the 6spd maxima axles or the specvs axles?
The 5spd bell housing will not mate with the 6spd. You will need 6spd Maxima axles, and the passenger side must be OEM b/c aftermarket ones are too short.
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Rwd cars have a bellhousing which is not part of the transmission.

Our fwd tranny uses a clutch housing which is an integral part of the transmission. It houses half of the shaft bearings as well as the mounts for all the shift linkages.

Buying a specV tranny will not be cheaper as you will still have to buy a maxima clutch housing. All your bearing preloads/clearances will have to be measured and appropriate shims obtained.
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This is a specV clutch housing.




To swap clutch housings, all of the parts have to be removed and installed in one for a 6MT maxima. (below)

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Originally Posted by eng92 View Post
Rwd cars have a bellhousing which is not part of the transmission.

Our fwd tranny uses a clutch housing which is an integral part of the transmission. It houses half of the shaft bearings as well as the mounts for all the shift linkages.

Buying a specV tranny will not be cheaper as you will still have to buy a maxima clutch housing. All your bearing preloads/clearances will have to be measured and appropriate shims obtained.
so there is a little modification that has to go into using the SpecV tranny, its not practically bolt on like the max's 6spds?
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would i need a 6 speed ecu to run the trans or it will work fine with the 5 speed ecu?
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would i need a 6 speed ecu to run the trans or it will work fine with the 5 speed ecu?
ECU doesn't *run* the transmission--5spd works fine.
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Originally Posted by tsaulz View Post
ECU doesn't *run* the transmission--5spd works fine.
thanks for the help....been without a max forever...now that i have one i will be doing another 4thgen vq35 swap, now with 6 speed....
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thats a cool swap, but whats the point if your not a everyday highway cruiser, doing atleast 80MPH...the way i drive, the 5spd is best for me..and from reading around here, it seems the 5spd is stronger.

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Old 02-07-2009, 09:21 PM
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Is it possible do all this with 5th gen 01 maxima A/T ? and get 6 MT for my 01 max auto? if it's possible how much it will cost$ ? i know it's very hard to swap a/t to m/t
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and from reading around here, it seems the 5spd is stronger.
If you think this is true, then you haven't done much reading at all.
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I didn't see an answer to this question but, did anyone who used the HLSD diff or tranny use the non locking driver's side axle? If it's anything like the LSD and non LSD 5spd, then I know the answer is no. The splines of the axle have to correspond with the differential, but in the case with some LSDs on different cars, the LSD diff takes the non LSD axle. In any event, i've got asked this question and wasn't 100% sure of that answer. I'd assume when you switch to an HLSD dif from a non locking dif, you have to change the driver's side axle as well. Am I mistaken?
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Originally Posted by TJ_Max View Post
I didn't see an answer to this question but, did anyone who used the HLSD diff or tranny use the non locking driver's side axle? If it's anything like the LSD and non LSD 5spd, then I know the answer is no. The splines of the axle have to correspond with the differential, but in the case with some LSDs on different cars, the LSD diff takes the non LSD axle. In any event, i've got asked this question and wasn't 100% sure of that answer. I'd assume when you switch to an HLSD dif from a non locking dif, you have to change the driver's side axle as well. Am I mistaken?
FAST shows only one part number for the left side 6MT axle, regardless of HLSD or not.
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Wow ... this is awsome, nice write up and tons of good info. I'm still looking to do the 6spd swap and part ways with my 5spd. This will come in handy when the time comes, thanks!

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FAST shows only one part number for the left side 6MT axle, regardless of HLSD or not.
Correct, the HLSD uses gears to engage the LSD system. The VLSD requires a different inner CV spline to engage the viscous coupling.
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Ok
for everyone succeed on this

how much power did you get form this swap on dyno ??

will 6spd from an Altima 2005 good for me ?
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Ok
for everyone succeed on this

how much power did you get form this swap on dyno ??

will 6spd from an Altima 2005 good for me ?
You'll be at the same WHP as a factory 6 speed, you don't 'gain' anything. Calculate it out yourself using the drivetrain losses for the auto (assuming you are?) and the 6MT.

Will the '05 Altima 6MT work for you? Who knows, you have neglected to either fill out your profile or tell us what kind of car you drive.
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Originally Posted by TJ_Max View Post
I didn't see an answer to this question but, did anyone who used the HLSD diff or tranny use the non locking driver's side axle? If it's anything like the LSD and non LSD 5spd, then I know the answer is no. The splines of the axle have to correspond with the differential, but in the case with some LSDs on different cars, the LSD diff takes the non LSD axle. In any event, i've got asked this question and wasn't 100% sure of that answer. I'd assume when you switch to an HLSD dif from a non locking dif, you have to change the driver's side axle as well. Am I mistaken?
ahh crap this would explain why the shop called and told me the 6spd axles are a bit off , I got A34 6spd and L31 Tranny . I wonder if that makes any difference ?
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ahh crap this would explain why the shop called and told me the 6spd axles are a bit off , I got A34 6spd and L31 Tranny . I wonder if that makes any difference ?
What do you mean, you got a trans from both? Or axles from the A34?

HLSD or no, there's no difference in axles for the RS6F51. Are you absolutely certain the axles are from/for a 6MT? The auto axles are very similar, but a different length.

Which axle? Or both? What exactly is a 'bit off'?
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Originally Posted by pmohr View Post
What do you mean, you got a trans from both? Or axles from the A34?

HLSD or no, there's no difference in axles for the RS6F51. Are you absolutely certain the axles are from/for a 6MT? The auto axles are very similar, but a different length.

Which axle? Or both? What exactly is a 'bit off'?
Well I shouldnt be posting here , I own a a33 and a34 .

I got tired of blowing these 5ATs so I got Nismologys 6spd.

the shop called me today and said there was a slight issue with the passenger axle. I have the 6spd A34 Axles but im using a L31 Tranny.

I purchase just about everything for my year but they are saying they have some issues.

At this point they should be able to figure it out since its a tranny shop
www.atfspeed.com
that does this all day.

I was just browsing this thread and notice that I will have to drill the hole bigger for the CPS so thats good to know even tho this is about a32 6spd swap.

I just hope I dont have to dump more money into parts
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ahh crap this would explain why the shop called and told me the 6spd axles are a bit off , I got A34 6spd and L31 Tranny . I wonder if that makes any difference ?
All HLSD and non-HLSD use the same gear casings for A34/L31 etc.

HLSD inner CV joints do not require a special shaft like the VLSD 5 speed does.

The problem may actually be your passenger side driveshaft mounting point where it bolts to the block
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46 View Post
All HLSD and non-HLSD use the same gear casings for A34/L31 etc.

HLSD inner CV joints do not require a special shaft like the VLSD 5 speed does.

The problem may actually be your passenger side driveshaft mounting point where it bolts to the block
I think that could be it , on the 6th gen 5AT the CV on the passenger side has 3 (10mm) bolts , It could very well that bracket that mounts on the engine that the cv axle shaft MIGHT NOT be bolt up right due to the 6spd axles?

I will look into that but its rare to find those parts in a junk yard , esp 6spd A34
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Question answered
ttp://www.courtesyparts.com/kb_search_result.php?keywords=[39781]+\(A34&cPath=2668_2669_2732_2753

Copy above link, then add a H to the front
Probably cheaper than a junk yard too lol
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