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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Bought a VQ30DEK for a 95, befor I get started . .

Ok so I picked up a vq30dek non cali w/ 150k cheap.

I have done some engine work before, on a ford 5.0, but I have never worked on a VQ before

Whats good/common for theseVQ motors? Bigger pistons? Head work? Where from? I think I remember reading something about someone putting VQ35 pistons in a boared out 3.0 would that work with the crank?

What should I replace on a motor with 150k on it?
Replace injectors or just flush them? Coils? Timing chain?

Just looking for some insight on these motors from people with more experience then I what do you all recommend?

THX !
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Man I hate to hurt your feeling but 150 on a dek is alot. I got mine less than a year ago with about 32,000 on it.
And on the pistons it would be a waste of time. YOu can pick up low milage vq35 motors for about $600 if you look around.
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Originally Posted by RedfoxXx
Ok so I picked up a vq30dek non cali w/ 150k cheap.

I have done some engine work before, on a ford 5.0, but I have never worked on a VQ before

Whats good/common for theseVQ motors? Bigger pistons? Head work? Where from? I think I remember reading something about someone putting VQ35 pistons in a boared out 3.0 would that work with the crank?

What should I replace on a motor with 150k on it?
Replace injectors or just flush them? Coils? Timing chain?

Just looking for some insight on these motors from people with more experience then I what do you all recommend?

THX !
What are your goals and how much are you willing to spend?
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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OK well I am an engendering student and I wanted the experience of rebuilding an engine (thought about the VQ35 but I am not that big into power + I wanted to keep my auto with Florida traffic)

As for power any increase would be nice but I think the 4spd is going have trouble past 240-250whp ya know?

I just opened this thread to get some options here

Looking to spend around 1k but ill prob go over

Thank you for your advice!
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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I see alot of engine rebuild kits offer oversized pistons from 93.0mm to 94.0mm (from 2.987L to3.0521L) has anyone done these, what are the tuneing ramifications and power results ?
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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OK well I am an engendering student and I wanted the experience of rebuilding an engine (thought about the VQ35 but I am not that big into power + I wanted to keep my auto with Florida traffic)
Not that big into power? Explain why you can't keep your auto re:engine swap.

I see alot of engine rebuild kits offer oversized pistons from 93.0mm to 94.0mm (from 2.987L to3.0521L) has anyone done these, what are the tuneing ramifications and power results ?
From a logical standpoint why look into different sized pistons? If you want more displacement, get a 3.5L.

Seems as if you're not that much into power, you can do just fine with a straight swap. Tuning alone can get you some good power, if done correctly, without having to go inside the engine.
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Not that big into power? Explain why you can't keep your auto re:engine swap.


From a logical standpoint why look into different sized pistons? If you want more displacement, get a 3.5L.

Seems as if you're not that much into power, you can do just fine with a straight swap. Tuning alone can get you some good power, if done correctly, without having to go inside the engine.
Good points, however if I get a rebuild kid the price is the same for a 93.00mm to a 94.00mm kit, my buddy works at a machine shop so he can take care of the block for me, kind of like a why not?

So I just wanted to ask you guy why not is there a known problem with doing that? Any ramifications?
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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kind of like a why not?
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(from 2.987L to3.0521L)
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So I just wanted to ask you guy why not is there a known problem with doing that? Any ramifications?
If done properly, there shouldn't be any problem at all. I'm sure the power increase wouldn't be any if at all noticeable.
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There are no off-the-shelf internals for the VQ30 (that I know of) so everything would have to be custom made. Which kits are you referring to?
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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There is one made by some Utah companyhttp://www.rpmmachine.com/engine-rebuild-kits-nissan.shtml

another out of Jacksonville called Topline
Same deal same price on ebay
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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I guess I should've said "aftermarket" parts. But that's an excellent find. Are these OEM parts, or at least on par with OEM quality?
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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I sent them some emails asking for details such as that and what was included with “timing belt” . . . id be more confident if it said was a chain ya know? . . . im sure they will claim OEM Quality tho

am I forgetting anything ?

pistons
piston rings
rod bearings
main bearings
timing chain . . . .mabye
complete overhaul gasket set
oil pump
freeze plugs . . . comes with the kit but should I bother?
Injectors (or a good flush mabye)
Coils . . .mabye
plugs. . . duh
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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I'm wondering how they're gonna know which size/grade rod and main bearings to send you.

But to answer your question, you have most of it there on your list. I'd probably replace the timing chain tensioner and main guide along with the water pump as well though.
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Change the timing chain tensioners and the water pump. All of the gaskets that are far easier to do with the engine out of the car like the front and rear main seal, timing chain cover, valve cover, etc. I would not bother with the head gasket or any machining. Not worth it IMO unless you are going very big with an engine build not a general overhaul.

Honestly if your current engine isn't giving you problems and still has good compression, then I would just swap the intake manifold and the related from the DEK and keep the engine for later.
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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yeah the 00VI goign on the car wendsday, the engine will follow later
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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OK well I am an engendering student and I wanted the experience of rebuilding an engine (thought about the VQ35 but I am not that big into power + I wanted to keep my auto with Florida traffic)
1st learn how to spell what your majoring in
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Pretty sure there was some pun intended there. At least I hope.
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
1st learn how to spell what your majoring in
Electrical Engineering . . . sry I did not proof read
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Electrical Engenering
Engineering... ?
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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One more stupid question, where do I get the bolts to hold the engine onto the engine stand?
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Ace is the place. That's where i got mine.
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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Not to rain on your parade, but expect (1) things to go wrong, and (2) that things will take much longer than you expect. That way you won't be surprised when they do.
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Not to rain on your parade, but expect (1) things to go wrong, and (2) that things will take much longer than you expect. That way you won't be surprised when they do.
lol thx curt, yeah I know im not working on a big deadline, the last big project I worked on (project sleeper turbo Camry) required alot of fabrication and EVERYTHIGN went wrong with it (including the oil line bursting catching the car on fire)

hey one last thing when hoisting the engine where are the best points to do so on the VQ?
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I always use a passenger side motor mount bracket throughbolt and a bolt on the rear of the engine where the tranny bolts up.
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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Good call on Ace they were Super helpful! Hey I noticed on the timing chain cover someone wrote 00 Maxima 61539 I am wondering if this might be the true mileage of the motor. You know how the junkyards are with records and inventories

The oil looks good in the motor and so dose the timing chain but is there any definitive way to get a feel for how used this bad boy is? I will post a few pics later
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Removing the valve cover and having a look-see is always a good place to start. A leak-down test would be another good thing since the motor doesn't have to have a starter turning it over to perform it.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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ok me and some buddies tore the motor down to the block and heads today, no engine sludge and the timing chain look like it is in VERRY good shape, going to give the parts a complete check over tomorrow is there anything particular I should be looking for?
Also what kind of tool should I get to remove the heads, it looks lie ka BIG hex bolt, do they sell them at AutoZone/advanced?
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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i wouldnt buy the ones from autozone. i bought them there and the hex broke. buy some from craftsman. cant go wrong there.
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My autozone hex socket worked just fine.


The size is M10 in case you haven't purchased it yet.
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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My autozone hex socket worked just fine.


The size is M10 in case you haven't purchased it yet.
Yeah I grabbed on at sears the other day, now I am hung up on these bolts that hold the crank in, has anyone taken these off? What kind of socket do I use for them they seem to be some kind of star headed bolt thx everything else is going great
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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External TORX socket. Not quite sure on the size though. I think it's E10 but I'll check tomorrow when I get a chance just to be sure.
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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External TORX socket. Not quite sure on the size though. I think it's E10 but I'll check tomorrow when I get a chance just to be sure.
Thanks man I really appreciate your help, if there is anything you need down the road let me know do they sell those External TORX socket at advanced/ AutoZone? I will stop by today and check iv never seen anything like them before
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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I'd stay away from that rpm machine rebuild kit. I used one of those last year on my 3.0, It was one of the only rebuild kits i could find that was not retardedly expensive. The rings they sent me were absolute garbage, but theres always the chance I installed them wrong, it could of been a lot of things. But those rings would not seal whatsoever. Check out rockauto.com they got a lot of stuff there for decent prices
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