NiZMo1o1

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Dan im just going to wait til youve done this mod since you have an extra manifold to play with.

I just cant afford doing this mod and "in case" having some issues after the SSIM ... Let me know how it works out with you first Dan cause no other 6th gen'ers has done this mod/dyno it either ... right now the kinietix manifold is looking good.

nismology

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There's nothing different about a 6th gen VIAS where it counts.

!PrjctMax!

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Please don't...unless you actually have money to spend/experiment with (which judging from your planned mods, I think you do )

Like discussed numerous times, the Kinetix is just a "bling factor for the 6th gen" (no disrespect to those that have it). There has been no sufficient data showing significant gain with the Kinetix, but there has been significant data showing the gains of the SSIM. Many have done it while there has been almost no one with issues except for one guy...but that was because he had a bad coil-pack after reinstalling everything and he was mis-firing (something along those lines)

That's exactly what I was told, and visually it doesn't look any different either.

NmexMAX

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Some later (not sure which model years) have a plastic VIAS plate. Not sure if the mechanism itself is plastic, but, yeah. Also, IIRC, 07's have a plastic IM altogether.

NiZMo1o1

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Yeah but didnt Kevin007 made some hp with the Kinetix ? I know hes on juice but hes running 12s with that manifold.. I dont think Chern did a dyno before and after with that manifold either.

I think im just going to take a step back and wait and not rush into anything until this is done on a 6th gen.

I guess Dan its up to you now dude , the sooner you get it done the sooner I wil find out my answer on a 6th gen.

NmexMAX

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You'll get the same results as the 5.5 gen, plain and simple, Cripes

!PrjctMax!

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I'm pretty sure that the Altima had a plastic one.

Exactly...juice=more air the better...I'm sure that he would have close if not better results with the SSIM...judging by results on the board.

Once I get spring, I'll do it!

that's not directed towards me, now is it Manny?

NmexMAX

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No, not to you.

NiZMo1o1

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Do you need some anger mangement ?.. not everyone is VQ guru god like you.

NmexMAX

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I'm not a VQ guru. I just spend time under my hood, and if you did the same, you would know what I mean, re: the mod in question. If you saw what was done to accomplish this mod, you would understand how it would affect the power curve in both engines.

So, explain to me WHY it would be different for the 6th gen?

NiZMo1o1

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Maybe thats your job or career , I dont spend hours under the hood any longer. I have a life and a business to run, Before I even post this Ive ask numberous people around my town like 95BlkMax ,nismology,nax , and few others before I made a judgment.. since I was getting a mixed reviews on this mod.

For the most part some of the names above or the ones Ive talk to hae VQ35 Swap 4th gen , I dont see many 5.5 gens around my state that has done this mod only 4th genners which dont have much to lose.

I have a newer gen and I dont want to end up throwing codes or having the intake manifold flutterings or bogging out. If I do the SSIM mod and something mess up , its not like I can find a 04 and up manifold in the for sale section.

Ive read this thread and everyone has stated what this mod can do , Im not concern about the hp or losing low end power, What im concern is no 6th genners has done it and Im skeptical that knowing my luck that if I go fourth with this something may happen. It was a PITA pulling those back 2 (12mm) bolts from the elbow already, Since the 5.5 gen has more space than a 6th gen.. it just take longer with me dropping 12 mm wrenchs down behind the firewall, bloody knuckles and scratchs.

Im getting mix reviews from guys that deals with VQ all day. If you hand me a KA24DE and I'll tear it down and make it a DET for you , if you hand me a SR and and a gt2857 and i'll give you 450whp... You hand me a VQ and I dont have the slighest idea where to start on this motor since im new to it but im learning each day.

I ask question cause I dont want things Fking up on a new daily driven car and having the wifey or family at my neck for having down time on the car. My days before being grease monkey is over, right now I figure I would try out the spacers since I had to get into the motor and change out the spark plugs and the idea of doing the SSIM cross my mind as well as boost. I want to get the most mods out of it and since I have manifold out I figure I would do this. maybe you understand if you were in my shoes and wouldnt be so defensive when newbies ask question because they are concern about the Cons

KRRZ350

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Yeah FTR dropped wrenches and bloody knuckles are a 5.5 gen thing also

Anyways I wouldn't worry to much about those things, RE: it will be the same for your 6th gen, no codes. However you need to be careful as hell cutting out the shelf, it is entirely possible to fubar your manifold,.

oTranscendental

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Anyone have an opinion on 4thgen3.5 with VI vs. SSIM? I'm riding the fence on which one I should do. No VTC here.

NmexMAX

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VIAS on the A33B is dual stage, yours is not unless you have something more than an RPM switch to control it. So again, it’s not a direct comparison.

The data/information to help all of you make an informed decision is out there. If any of you are on the fence, get off of it, and don’t do it. If you have to think twice don’t do it.

RacerX1320

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^^^ Hey Nmexmax, i have a vq30dek im pretty sure my mevi isnt broken i can hear it open and my car only has 60k. I am installing an emu in a few weeks do you know if i can control it with the emu?? Has anyone done that yet?

DandyMax

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Yes you can.

NmexMAX

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DEK + MEVI

Apparition

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kinda like backyard mechanics working on their moms bmw's.. mwahaha, j/k.

wyche89

i saw that someone said that there wouldn't be as much torque loss on a 6MT vs. a 4AT.. does anyone know what gains/losses of the SSIM on a 6 speed max?

NismoAltSE-R

for the guys that have done this SSIM, did you gut the whole shelf from one side of the IM to the other? I did it this past weekend and there was a small part that i wasnt able to reach, will that matter? also did your idle go up once you start your car? mine comes back down after its warn but when it 1st starts up it seems higher than normal?? any info would be huge help.

sunstream453

i think what they mean is you wont feel the loss as much being a 6spd. here is my dyno that shows the loss, its the lower one, compared to getting that back with a z33 vtc map

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=561534

in the end, you can see that the SSIM is worth it, especially with altered cam timing. i made power all the way to 7100 without it dropping off really, stayed flat even at the uber lean level

NmexMAX

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Cam timing is not affected post 4.5k, at least on mine it was not.

sunstream453

understood, it was the lack of low end loss with altered cvtc that i was referring to. no loss + big top end gain = success

NismoAltSE-R

how many guys have done this? are you all happy with it? It mod deff needs more than the revs we have stock...with cams and a rev kit and a new redline at 7,800 that would be a big help

sunstream453

i dont know that you would make power out to 7800 rpm, maybe with a good porting you could get close, but in the end they are still stock length runners. plus, i dont know what "rev kit" you are saying, but you need more than just rod bolts to get out to that RPM safely. either way, maybe with the right adjustments you can make power pretty far, but i think sr20den showed that even the ssim didnt make power to 7500, let alone 7800

travof2008

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Help please!!!!! I here all the talk about tunning SSIM mods etc..... I am located in So-cal and for your basic bolt ons I have that. All this that you guys are talking about I have no clue on where to get it or someone to even do the work. Is there a shop in So-cal I can go to and get the the SSIM and tunning work done. All help appreciated Thanks.