^^^^^^^^^it is sticking around where the crank pulley was, am I missing something? hidden bolts that I cant see, also do I have to take off the oil pan to get off front or rear timing case? thanks

 

Are you certain that all the 10mm head bolts have been removed? There is one just above the crankshaft nose that likes to hide.

Also, it will never come off with the upper oil pan in place.

 

You have to take the pan off. There are two 12mm bolts if i remeber correctly that go up throught the upper oil pan into the timing cover.

 

It will come off with the upper pan on my friend. There are 2 12mm bolts that you have to take the lower pan off to get to.

 

Is this part of a motor swap and/or build or just maintenance? Either way, be sure to keep in mind that for proper reinstallation of the outer cover the upper oil pan should be off then installed secondary to the cover.

 

getting ready for 3.5 swap......thanks for the help everyone

 

Though if you're careful you can get the front cover sealed just fine with the upper pan in place.

It's funny how many people try to remove the timing cover without removing those two bolts that go through the upper oil pan...

 

Been there, done that...but I quickly screwed the timing cover and went to remove the pan in the whole dis assembly... felt stupid when I found those two.

 

It's really scary how many people are attempting these types of operations without consulting with a service manual even once.

 

FSM FTW hard to see but its there on the laptop lol.

 

Nice garage.
Mine didn't have that much room even with nothing in it.
Now I have 6 sets of shelves in there to store all my crap and no working room..

 

Garage? I use a storage trailer and a parking lot


Yes, everyone should look at the how to's and FSM on what needs to be done at least twice before doing something major like this.

 

That aint my garage. Thats my school where i will be building my motor. We have a full machine shop and everything. Its nice lol.

 

MAN....that would be nice

 

OP:
Check all bolts, like its been said Im sure the ones in the upper oil pan is what your forgetting. When you try to remove it be careful but semi forceful. If your feel resistance find out where the resistance is coming from and ensure there is no bolt there.

nice... luck you... I had space when i did my swap but you have AMPLE space!

 

 

 

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