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4.5 max got richer afr after 3" catback and y pipe

Old Feb 28, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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4.5 max got richer afr after 3" catback and y pipe

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Ok making this thread out of curiosity bc i didnt expect the results.. after some research makes some sense but just incase the maxima gurus have more input


My 3.5 swapped hybrid maxima was previously tunned with a cold air (in fener) a vis block off plate, ebay y pipe using 2" primaries to a 2.25" tube, to a greddy sp2 2.5 inch catback and no cat conv. tuned to about 12.8s

after installing a custom non equal length y pipe using 2.25 primaries into a 3" pipe, and then a custom 3 inch catback also without a cat conv. the car was in the 11s afrs. The safc2 needed more correction to get it back into the 12.7s.

research shows, that the more flow, could cause the ecu to see higher maf values and overcompensate dpending on predetermined wot values. anyone else has had this happen please chime in incase i need to look at other issues that may be going on.

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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by aic96max
Guys,


Ok making this thread out of curiosity bc i didnt expect the results.. after some research makes some sense but just incase the maxima gurus have more input


My 3.5 swapped hybrid maxima was previously tunned with a cold air (in fener) a vis block off plate, ebay y pipe using 2" primaries to a 2.25" tube, to a greddy sp2 2.5 inch catback and no cat conv. tuned to about 12.8s

after installing a custom non equal length y pipe using 2.25 primaries into a 3" pipe, and then a custom 3 inch catback also without a cat conv. the car was in the 11s afrs. The safc2 needed more correction to get it back into the 12.7s.

research shows, that the more flow, could cause the ecu to see higher maf values and overcompensate dpending on predetermined wot values. anyone else has had this happen please chime in incase i need to look at other issues that may be going on.
Happened to me - the extra air flow thru the MAF made my A/F richer every time I did something to make the engine breathe better. 3.5 conversion, OBX headers, built engine, front-mounted air intake, each made the A/F drop. Since I was using the stock ECU, I came up with my Tune-by-Tape trick, which reduces the air flow seen by the MAF and lets me keep the A/F in the low 12s. A small piece of tape across the top of the back of the MAF sensor tunnel makes a big difference in measured air flow - just a 1/32" or so is all that is needed. Which of course means that the air flow range of the stock MAF can be extended quite a bit.
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