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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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GI: 6Spd Timing Rings for 3.0 Timing.

Have a VQ30DE? DE-K? Or just hybrid swapped your maxima and kept the 3.0 Electronics and want a 6spd transmission?

Stuck on that timing ring issue?

Well I have your sollution, just need to gauge interest here, the price will be around 125 and I will need your stock 3.5 timing ring.



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It's currently on my car on the fidanza lightweight flywheel, I'm sure it can easily be done to stock 6mt's flywheels also!

7/19/12 Update:

I'm doing this again, post a reply updating the list.

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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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so what are you going to do
Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Machine your 3.5 timing ring into a 3.0 timing ring.
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I want to do this, but I'd have to buy a 6spd flywheel.
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Originally Posted by Weimar Ben
I want to do this, but I'd have to buy a 6spd flywheel.
I'd suggest the Fidanza Aluminum one, unless you're REALLLLY into drag racing.
Old Apr 17, 2011 | 04:21 AM
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I don't see anything but the picture... what all do I need.. I am a 4th gen with the 3.5 swap I'm 5speed but want a 6 speed what all is needed to do this properly
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The picture is a demonstration, it's the exact timing ring I'm currently using on my car.

I will need either:

A timing ring for a lightweight fidanza flywheel for a 6spd

Or the timing ring off of a stock 6spd flywheel (it uses torx bolts)

Then I will use that to turn it into 3.0L timing for your 3.0 electronics.

After you get the timing ring out of the way, the 6spd swap is going to be no problem.
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Hello, thanks for posting this, I would interested in one if the turnaround time isn't too long, I'm looking to do the swap soon since my 5mt is whining and leaking. Also, if I use the fidanza 3.5 flywheel you mentioned, will the bolt holes line up with the bolt holes on my VQ30DE?
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Have a VQ30DE? DE-K? Or just hybrid swapped your maxima and kept the 3.0 Electronics and want a 6spd transmission?

Stuck on that timing ring issue?

Well I have your sollution, just need to gauge interest here, the price will be around 80-100 and I will need your stock 3.5 timing ring.



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It's currently on my car on the fidanza lightweight flywheel, I'm sure it can easily be done to stock 6mt's flywheels also!
Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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The bolt holes will line up, the problem is you need 6mt bolts because of the screws being embedded into the flywheel.... (Or you can get risque and drill away at one of your sockets to fit into the FW).
Old Jun 25, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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Thanks a bunch aackshun. I've been reading a lot of your threads and you've provided a wealth of information. I just got an 02 max 6mt that was wrecked, so I'll be doing the swap soon. You're knowledge will be turbo helpful.
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Thanks a lot! I also have a blog that I have not been updating lately, I'm going to be dropping my headers soon so I will have some pics of the process.

Nice pickup with the 02!! Since it's a complete car you can do a full ECU swap and not need this timing ring... if you like wiring, or just keep it hybrid, depends on what you want to do....

Lets start a list, the more that do it at once the cheaper it'll be, like any other group deal!!!

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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 06:11 AM
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Sounds like a great idea. BTW if anybody needs a stock 6spd flywheel, pm me.
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fyi, the timing ring was welded onto my flywheel
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Bolt on > Weld
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Possibility of getting a timing ring cut soon?

Greetings, I'm wanting to get my trans swapped out before it dies and/or school starts again. Would it be possible to get a timing ring cut soon? How much would you charge me? If not, could you tell me what exactly to tell a machine shop? A local shop said they would need to see the flywheel and ring. I sent them some of your photos, which I thought were quite clear, but he wanted to see the actual fw and timing ring. I'd like to avoid that since I want to get all my parts ready and do the whole thing over a weekend. Thanks in advance for all your help. I'd be stuck with my old turd 5 speed and gear oil pan on the garage floor without guys like you.
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Thanks a lot! I also have a blog that I have not been updating lately, I'm going to be dropping my headers soon so I will have some pics of the process.

Nice pickup with the 02!! Since it's a complete car you can do a full ECU swap and not need this timing ring... if you like wiring, or just keep it hybrid, depends on what you want to do....

Lets start a list, the more that do it at once the cheaper it'll be, like any other group deal!!!

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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:12 AM
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I will give em a call and ask what's the cost for 2 of them cut.

Are these for fidanza FWs or stock FWs??
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I was thinking Fidanza because the stock 3.5 fw is like 7 or 10 lbs heavier than the stock 3.0 fw. That seemed like too much of an increase. What do you think? Is that a sound analysis?
Theres a guy on fleabay that has a fidanza with an exedy oem clutch for $595, so I'll probably buy that one.
Will I need to order a timing ring from fidanza in order for you to cut the 3.0 ring?

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I will give em a call and ask what's the cost for 2 of them cut.

Are these for fidanza FWs or stock FWs??
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by vw3819
I was thinking Fidanza because the stock 3.5 fw is like 7 or 10 lbs heavier than the stock 3.0 fw. That seemed like too much of an increase. What do you think? Is that a sound analysis?
Theres a guy on fleabay that has a fidanza with an exedy oem clutch for $595, so I'll probably buy that one.
Will I need to order a timing ring from fidanza in order for you to cut the 3.0 ring?
Try 20lbs heavier.

Stock 6mt = 39lbs

Stock 5mt = 19lbs

Fidanza LW 6mt = 17lbs? (Forgot already lol)

Fidanza LW 5mt = 11lbs.

All you have to do is get the FW, take off the timing ring and send it to me.
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On the way...

Thanks for the clarification, 20 lbs more definitely made that decision easier. I ordered a fidanza and on its way. I can't wait to get this trans swapped in and done. Did you notice any highway fuel economy increase with your 6 speed? I've been searching for posts on highway mpg increase with the 6mt but I've not been able to come up with anything.

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Try 20lbs heavier.

Stock 6mt = 39lbs

Stock 5mt = 19lbs

Fidanza LW 6mt = 17lbs? (Forgot already lol)

Fidanza LW 5mt = 11lbs.

All you have to do is get the FW, take off the timing ring and send it to me.
Old Jul 9, 2011 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vw3819
Thanks for the clarification, 20 lbs more definitely made that decision easier. I ordered a fidanza and on its way. I can't wait to get this trans swapped in and done. Did you notice any highway fuel economy increase with your 6 speed? I've been searching for posts on highway mpg increase with the 6mt but I've not been able to come up with anything.
I've said it before in other threads and I'll say it again in this one.

Current MPG

30 City

34 Highway.

I've gotten up to 36 on the highway but I am not able to repeat that, I can hit 35 sometimes but 34 is what I get most often.

With the 5spd it was 25-26 City and 28-29highway, buy I did not have a working knock sensor for very long on the current intake and exhaust mods with the 5mt, maybe about a month or so, I didn't get a chance to try it w/ the unplugged o2 sensors.
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Just a heads up, slight delay, we changed up machine shops down here, the last one was so far behind on work that it wasn't even funny, I've been waiting on mounts to be made for me since the beginning of June and they haven't even started.

Anyways, today I brought a 3.5 timing ring and I will drop it off @ the shop tomorrow so the guy know what he's getting into (that's all he needs, a before and after to compare to before he gives a final price to have two made).
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I'm going for the stock flywheel. The aftermarket ones are too damned expensive. Do you have an ETA on the timing rings?

Will I have to weld it on, or can I drill/tap some holes to bolt it on?
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You will have to do NUFFIN, just send me the FW and I will send it back to you ready to bolt on!!!

I dropped off the stuff @ the machine shop, it's all on them now!

I'm waiting on a price, once I get the price I will PM you guys and if you like it, send in your stuff! Should be done in a week.
Old Jul 18, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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That might not be feasible because shipping both ways to AK on a heavy stock flywheel will be expensive.
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Flat rate shipping does wonders my friend

Reinforce the box, and away we go!
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Will the flywheel fit in a flat rate box? The large flat rate box is 12" square. 12" seems too small for the flywheel.
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The medium one man! medium!!!!
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Originally Posted by Weimar Ben
Will the flywheel fit in a flat rate box? The large flat rate box is 12" square. 12" seems too small for the flywheel.
FWIW i used a USPS flate rate medium for a stock 3.5 flywheel it worked. hahaah


Get the medium thats thin and taller. not the cube one.
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
FWIW i used a USPS flate rate medium for a stock 3.5 flywheel it worked. hahaah


Get the medium thats thin and taller. not the cube one.
The surratt has spoken!!!

Got any more 6spd parts for me buddy?
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Originally Posted by aackshun
The surratt has spoken!!!

Got any more 6spd parts for me buddy?

haha


na not really, over the next few years id like to pickup a spare 6spd actually.

ive got some stuff ive been gathering, just waiting to get my car strait before i sell all the extra stuff.
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That sounds great. Thanks for doing that. My shiny new Fidanza will be here tomorrow . And,...after three failed attempts at towing my new parts car from me mum's house to mine, it will be here in two weeks. All i got left is getting a timing ring.


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You will have to do NUFFIN, just send me the FW and I will send it back to you ready to bolt on!!!

I dropped off the stuff @ the machine shop, it's all on them now!

I'm waiting on a price, once I get the price I will PM you guys and if you like it, send in your stuff! Should be done in a week.
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Greetings, any word from the machine shop on a price? Also how much will you want for facilitating this work? Thanks
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Still waiting, I'll call again today.

Just the price of gas, shipping and maybe any food involved (which will be included in the quoted price).
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Ok, for one $160
Two $150... and 3 or more for $140, this is including shipping right back to you, once I get all of the flywheels time from when I receive them all till they go back into a shipping box is WITHIN one week, this is extremely quick for the nature of the service being done.

When you receive your flywheel all you have to do is bolt it on your car!!!

I have Weimar Ben's FW, VW you wanna help him out so it can go down to $150?
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Thats great!

Thanks, yeah, I'm up for it. Do you need the whole flywheel or just the ring? I can ship it tomorrow. Where am I shipping it to? How should I pay for it?
I'm assuming you haven't had any problems at all with the cps with the newly machined ring? I apologize if thats a stupid question, but I needed to ask to be sure.

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Ok, for one $160
Two $150... and 3 or more for $140, this is including shipping right back to you, once I get all of the flywheels time from when I receive them all till they go back into a shipping box is WITHIN one week, this is extremely quick for the nature of the service being done.

When you receive your flywheel all you have to do is bolt it on your car!!!

I have Weimar Ben's FW, VW you wanna help him out so it can go down to $150?
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PM Sent and nope there some vids with me driving on youtube with it, no probs so far .

Just send the T-ring, itll be easier
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I've been mad busy all weekend, I just checked my PM inbox and there was nothing there. Can you send the information again? Any special tricks necessary for pulling the t-ring off the flywheel? Thanks again.

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PM Sent and nope there some vids with me driving on youtube with it, no probs so far .

Just send the T-ring, itll be easier
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As soon as VW's flywheel gets in I will goto the machine shop and drop em off, then I will be PM'ng you guys when they're done!

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I think I got VW's flywheel, I have to have someone else pick it up @ the Post Office cause I'm always @ work.

Anyways, They'll both be dropped off @ the Machine shop this week, I hope to have em shipped back out by Friday.
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That's great dude!



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