One of these centuries I'll finish my 3.5 swap.

Till then, I need a car to get to work in, the 5mt clutch is it's last leg, I stripped and broke the water pump screws so I'm not going to fool w/ it anymore, the DE comes out and a DEK + 6mt goes in it's place.

I'll be using the DE stock injectors + LIM on the motor and a power rod deletion will occur during this swap.

This will be a rush job because the white nightmare is my daily, my main concern won't be photos....

 

this will be awesome! get the sentra 6-spd, light flywheel and make her rev to 7200 so she doesn't bounce off the limiter so easily. i was reading that vq35 6spd is better suited for the 5.5 gen but with a less torquey, very linear vq30dek the sentra 6spd will be perfect!

 

Pulls a perfectly good motor because of stripped water pump screws and buys another, meh.

This DE-K better be half decent, or I will never stop downplaying this motor.

 

Who teh fck has a DEK anymore?

 

I know right? I'm always behind on these fads.

I guess I'm ahead of the times w/ the osiris 4th gen, and behind the times w/ this dek.

So wait, did I just admit to being a hipster tuner?

Hrmmm... Hipster Tuning..... Never in trend....

 

At least with a DEK you have the option of running s/c later down the road...

 

Awwww. I always believed that the DE-K was the best VQ and the 4th gen the best body in terms of weight, size, and practicality.

 

agreed

 

You can s/c a 3.5. It's been done and photographed by other Orgers on the FB page

 

just as long as you keep the 3.0timing but im sure everyone in this thread knows that

 

Dek ftw... reliability id take dek all day...tuning and power...n/a of course.. 3.5

 

Meh, fck this motor, it has 100087081735 vacuum lines and everything around the oil pan is leaking.

It's almost as bad as my 96, I don't think the owner of this car ever saw the dealership after it left, any half *** mech would have made them drop the oil pan and re-do this ish

Sad because it's coming from an I30, usually those motors are better maintained.

Good thing is, I drove the I30 before we dismantled it so I know it's good

Also side note, cyl 4 and 6 are running hella lean, those spark plugs had some snow white on the ends of them.

Anywho, right now I'm doing rear main, and two oil pan seals, I should re-do those two o-rings on the back (or bank 1) side of the motor but meh, I didn't order em and I need to put this oil pan back on tonight have the motor ready to drop in.

Lets see what else.......

This motor was a cali-spec.... So I'm sure that adds to the vacuum line mess.... And uhmmm.... That's it so far, back to work.

 

you can take off almost every vacuum gallery. the gallery on the front of the manifold is mostly stuff for the swirl valves/other emissions crap.

 

That's what I assumed, looks like everything just runs in a bunch of circles and to sensors, quite confusing

Anywho, had to order a **** ton more o-rings today, if this motor leaks one drop of oil, wayne brady will choke a b1tch

 

This is where abouts I cut the hole for my 6mt cables, the hole should be bigger by about 1/2 an inch or so, but it's good enough. This is the second time I cut it too small, this time I had the motor out so no excuse Oh wells.....

Anywho, the DEK is done, cables routed, shifter in the car somewhat... But I'm really just awaiting to put the 6mt back together, mate the two and then drop it in the car....

 

Do I see a 300zx fuel filter?

 

This is my ideal swap to be honest... aackshun i know youre good for detailed writeups lol the dek is mostly drop in anyhiw minus vac lines and diff injector harness correct?? I would kill to see someone make a writeup for the dek/6speed swap... that is what my intentions will be in the future once i get the rest of the car where i want it unless my de lasts forever...she will have an 00vi swap on her this summer once i finish my exhaust and suspension.. obx v2 headers to a greddy b pipe with stillen axle back as long as all goes as planned... but im interested to see the 6 speed swap and parts list

 

I have a 6 spd swap for sale if anyone who reads this is interested. 100% complete.

 

Good eye.

I'm working on a more complete how to, I'm taking photos of things I forgot to take a photo of last time, they're sh1tty cell phone pics but oh well.

The DEK + 6mt w/ 4.1 gearing should be ideal, based on other power rod delete dynos I should never fall below 190whp in my powerband and extending my rev limiter is not needed because I don't have the terrible 5mt gearing.

So it'd have the same HP in the powerband as an extended rev 5mt but more tq than an extended rev 5mt.... What I really wonder is if generating hp @ a rpm really makes that much of a diff than at a lower rpm...

Really? Then how did the 3.0 trigger ring problem get solved on your kit?

 

^how much

 

It is a full swap for an 02-03 from auto to manual. I am asking $1600 which i think is VERY fair as I have never seen a full swap for sale before and the tranny alone goes for $1200 on car-part.com.

 

Either boosted guys or guys that don't like pulling off the side of the road every 3 days and dumping a quart of oil in Im just playin i like the torque of the 35 n/a but the money i see people dump into DEK's to make 30/50hp they could have bolted on a blower and had a 300+ hp reliable car.

 

This. /thread

 

bahaha, you must be searching for 02-03 tranny's then, 6th gen tranny's are about 900 max.

So complete kit meaning engine wire harness, keys, ecu and speedometer correct?

 

yup that and much more, never seen a full kit before in my life, I don't think people understand how much stuff is involved in a real 02-03 6 spd swap.

Are 6th gens available with hlsd?

Don't you have to modify a mount to fit the 6th gen tranny in a 5th gen? I thought you had to move a mount back an inch or two and have it welded?

 

If my ISB was more on its way out than it is, I would probably buy your 6mt for my DE-K because I am not spending the money to rebuild a 5spd when it will most likely cost almost as much as just putting in a 6 spd, especially since I have full access to a shop and lift. Besides, a VLSD 5-spd should be worth something to offset the cost of the 6 spd, eh?

 

My thoughts exactly buy my swap and sell your auto or 5mt tranny for $600 and the kit is around a grand.

For any auto the kit means more hp, mpg, and lower trap speeds plus a real diff.

 

It's in there. I have a 5mt VLSD currently. Yours is the HLSD, right?

 

I wouldn't use the 5.5 gen FD for a DEK motor.

Just pretend the DEK is a 4cyl engine, it needs short gears to overcome it's lack of TQ.

Hell even the 3.5's have the same gearing as the 4cyls these days, there's probably a reason for that just sayin...



Power rod deleted, working on the vacuum galley for the 96 emissions stuff, motor and tranny goes in tomm night hopefully.

 

im still confused on how a VQ30 lacks tq? Unless you throw a 00vi/MEVI/02VI with the VI stuck open even then its not as bad as you make it seem sometimes.

They have the same gearing just like the 5spd are all the same from the sentras to the maximas. They use a blanket "one size fits all" gearing to reduce cost. Actually when i bought my car the PO of my car had a 6th gen with a 6spd in it and he hated the short gears, it wasn't necessary. He much preferred the 5spd paired with the VQ30 because of the longer gearing.

Now the 5.5 6spd still has slightly shorter gears than the 5spd but has a extra gear, thats why that is just confusing. The 5.5 gen still has better gearing.

 

With the VI's on 3.0's they essentially become a power equivalent to Honda's J30, no longer a mid-range tq *****.

Diff is shorter, thus shorter gearing in Sentras.

That A34 owner can't drive then, he should have skipped gears, it is possible you know, daily driving in the red car was 2-4-6, rarely used 1st and 5th.

5.5 gearing is pretty much the same until 5th speed wise.

But 3rd becomes the short gear and 4th the long, unlike the 5mt where it's vice versa.

You're interuptting me in the middle of my work, I haven't even put the tranny on yet.

 

**** yo work b1tch.

The man had both cars you cant tell me he didnt know how to drive a 6spd car. But he said the 6spd gears were just to short. And i can see that being a problem with a VQ powered car and those gears.

 

If he was thinking that, he does not know how to drive, initially I thought the same, then I realized I'm not driving a sequential transmission I can skip gears <- Mind blowing realization, this is earth shattering stuff right here.

Kind like how in the 5mt, 4th is useless, so I just skip it...

 

You are correct sir... 4th gear is pretty much useless. I skip it often. It does seem like a gas waster in 5th gear though running at 3K RPM's at 75.... That DE-K has plenty of grunt to be running at a much lower RPM than that going down the road...

 

Never let your own pride get in the way of making a simple fix on your car.

Spent 4 days tackling a fuel issue, when it was just the fuel lines being backwards.

Car runs, like chit, but runs, time to tackle the million vacuum leaks I have.

Flame on.

 

how can we flame when there's no gas to feed the fire?

 

oh there is plenty, watch this.


Ayy b1tch my car is running better, get yo game up ho:

 

Why do you always take pictures and videos with a potato?

 

Because its fun

Actually the glass to protects the lens on my phone cracked and it glares.

 

I like my potato camera