Help me Design an AWESOME sound system
07-24-2002, 06:59 PM
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Help me Design an AWESOME sound system
ok i'm thinking about rewiring the car and going full out on my stereo. i have the bose and i hate it for the record.
What i already have:
-Sirius Radio Tuner Box
-Terk Satellite Antenna
-Kenwood KDC MP-919 Headunit(3 4.5volt preouts, one non-fading)
-All the harnesses and adapters
-1 12.1 Infinity Kappa Perfect
-700watt no name Amp(will be replacing soon)
What i Want:
-6.5 inch Speakers for the front doors
-Maybe 2 2 channel amps for the front and rear speakers or am i better off with one 4 channel amp.
-5.25 Inch speakers for the rear doors
-Distribution Block
-Speaker cable to rewire whole car
-CAPACITORS, one per amp??? or can i run one for the whole system.
-amp to replace the crappy one for the SUB
thanks for all your input and help, i'm looking for the sound quality over loudness with teh speakers but i definelty want loud ones. the amps i want a decent name, but nothing too crazy, you cna get 100-200 watt 2 channel amps fro pretty cheap. i'm good with getting stuff cheap and i dont want to spend much over like 600 bucks and i know i can find a lot of it for good prices but i need to know that's the bst to get. thanks guys.
-steve
What i already have:
-Sirius Radio Tuner Box
-Terk Satellite Antenna
-Kenwood KDC MP-919 Headunit(3 4.5volt preouts, one non-fading)
-All the harnesses and adapters
-1 12.1 Infinity Kappa Perfect
-700watt no name Amp(will be replacing soon)
What i Want:
-6.5 inch Speakers for the front doors
-Maybe 2 2 channel amps for the front and rear speakers or am i better off with one 4 channel amp.
-5.25 Inch speakers for the rear doors
-Distribution Block
-Speaker cable to rewire whole car
-CAPACITORS, one per amp??? or can i run one for the whole system.
-amp to replace the crappy one for the SUB
thanks for all your input and help, i'm looking for the sound quality over loudness with teh speakers but i definelty want loud ones. the amps i want a decent name, but nothing too crazy, you cna get 100-200 watt 2 channel amps fro pretty cheap. i'm good with getting stuff cheap and i dont want to spend much over like 600 bucks and i know i can find a lot of it for good prices but i need to know that's the bst to get. thanks guys.
-steve
07-24-2002, 07:02 PM
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Re: Help me Design an AWESOME sound system
HHahahaha steve that 700 watt amp is more like a 50 watt pos 
However Ebay is the place for nice stuff i say go with a audiobahn mono Amp around 500 watts rms to push ur sub and get whatever components u like..dont forget about a cap! peace
However Ebay is the place for nice stuff i say go with a audiobahn mono Amp around 500 watts rms to push ur sub and get whatever components u like..dont forget about a cap! peace
07-24-2002, 07:15 PM
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Re: Help me Design an AWESOME sound system
Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
ok i'm thinking about rewiring the car and going full out on my stereo. i have the bose and i hate it for the record.
What i already have:
-Sirius Radio Tuner Box
-Terk Satellite Antenna
-Kenwood KDC MP-919 Headunit(3 4.5volt preouts, one non-fading)
-All the harnesses and adapters
-1 12.1 Infinity Kappa Perfect
-700watt no name Amp(will be replacing soon)
What i Want:
-6.5 inch Speakers for the front doors
-Maybe 2 2 channel amps for the front and rear speakers or am i better off with one 4 channel amp.
-5.25 Inch speakers for the rear doors
-Distribution Block
-Speaker cable to rewire whole car
-CAPACITORS, one per amp??? or can i run one for the whole system.
-amp to replace the crappy one for the SUB
thanks for all your input and help, i'm looking for the sound quality over loudness with teh speakers but i definelty want loud ones. the amps i want a decent name, but nothing too crazy, you cna get 100-200 watt 2 channel amps fro pretty cheap. i'm good with getting stuff cheap and i dont want to spend much over like 600 bucks and i know i can find a lot of it for good prices but i need to know that's the bst to get. thanks guys.
-steve
ok i'm thinking about rewiring the car and going full out on my stereo. i have the bose and i hate it for the record.
What i already have:
-Sirius Radio Tuner Box
-Terk Satellite Antenna
-Kenwood KDC MP-919 Headunit(3 4.5volt preouts, one non-fading)
-All the harnesses and adapters
-1 12.1 Infinity Kappa Perfect
-700watt no name Amp(will be replacing soon)
What i Want:
-6.5 inch Speakers for the front doors
-Maybe 2 2 channel amps for the front and rear speakers or am i better off with one 4 channel amp.
-5.25 Inch speakers for the rear doors
-Distribution Block
-Speaker cable to rewire whole car
-CAPACITORS, one per amp??? or can i run one for the whole system.
-amp to replace the crappy one for the SUB
thanks for all your input and help, i'm looking for the sound quality over loudness with teh speakers but i definelty want loud ones. the amps i want a decent name, but nothing too crazy, you cna get 100-200 watt 2 channel amps fro pretty cheap. i'm good with getting stuff cheap and i dont want to spend much over like 600 bucks and i know i can find a lot of it for good prices but i need to know that's the bst to get. thanks guys.
-steve
I have (2) 1 Farad caps I am looking to move...if you are interested drop me an e-mail or PM....
07-24-2002, 10:23 PM
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If your battery is good, then 1 cap for every 1000 watts will work. I've got 2 1 farad caps on my system and it's pushing almost 2200 watts (4 amps, 2 subs, etc.) and the lights never dim, but I've also got a Holley Annihilator battery in there. With my old stock battery, my system was dimming with 1 cap on only like 400 watts.
07-25-2002, 01:10 AM
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Focal speakers up front, either the Polyglass or PolyKevlar comps, shop around for the on the net, but Im telling you, you will love them. I have the PK165k's and man talk about awesome sounding. As for amp/sub, if you want more kick and low end and the ability to go loud check out Image Dynamics IDMAX 12, I have one, and Im telling you its the only and LAST sub i ever want, running off a MTX6500d at 2ohms getting it around 800rms solid.
Focal 165k rear speakers in mine, and again, I cant complain at ALL.
I have around 1000rms running, NO CAP and get minimal dimming. My front amp is a mtx302. 125x2 to the fronts, rears off the deck (alpine 7894 mp3).
Off all the systems Ive ever sat in I can say without a doubt mine stays the CLEANEST sounding while still going WAY LOUD....IM talking 140db's+ with that one sub.
Main thing though, try and listen to all you can cause everyones stuff sounds different......I made a 2 hour drive to hear my speakers and sub, and let me tell you it was worth it, then I bought it off the net for a little cheaper
Focal 165k rear speakers in mine, and again, I cant complain at ALL.
I have around 1000rms running, NO CAP and get minimal dimming. My front amp is a mtx302. 125x2 to the fronts, rears off the deck (alpine 7894 mp3).
Off all the systems Ive ever sat in I can say without a doubt mine stays the CLEANEST sounding while still going WAY LOUD....IM talking 140db's+ with that one sub.
Main thing though, try and listen to all you can cause everyones stuff sounds different......I made a 2 hour drive to hear my speakers and sub, and let me tell you it was worth it, then I bought it off the net for a little cheaper
07-25-2002, 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by Jr'sMaxima
Focal speakers up front, either the Polyglass or PolyKevlar comps, shop around for the on the net, but Im telling you, you will love them. I have the PK165k's and man talk about awesome sounding. As for amp/sub, if you want more kick and low end and the ability to go loud check out Image Dynamics IDMAX 12, I have one, and Im telling you its the only and LAST sub i ever want, running off a MTX6500d at 2ohms getting it around 800rms solid.
Focal 165k rear speakers in mine, and again, I cant complain at ALL.
I have around 1000rms running, NO CAP and get minimal dimming. My front amp is a mtx302. 125x2 to the fronts, rears off the deck (alpine 7894 mp3).
Off all the systems Ive ever sat in I can say without a doubt mine stays the CLEANEST sounding while still going WAY LOUD....IM talking 140db's+ with that one sub.
Main thing though, try and listen to all you can cause everyones stuff sounds different......I made a 2 hour drive to hear my speakers and sub, and let me tell you it was worth it, then I bought it off the net for a little cheaper
Focal speakers up front, either the Polyglass or PolyKevlar comps, shop around for the on the net, but Im telling you, you will love them. I have the PK165k's and man talk about awesome sounding. As for amp/sub, if you want more kick and low end and the ability to go loud check out Image Dynamics IDMAX 12, I have one, and Im telling you its the only and LAST sub i ever want, running off a MTX6500d at 2ohms getting it around 800rms solid.
Focal 165k rear speakers in mine, and again, I cant complain at ALL.
I have around 1000rms running, NO CAP and get minimal dimming. My front amp is a mtx302. 125x2 to the fronts, rears off the deck (alpine 7894 mp3).
Off all the systems Ive ever sat in I can say without a doubt mine stays the CLEANEST sounding while still going WAY LOUD....IM talking 140db's+ with that one sub.
Main thing though, try and listen to all you can cause everyones stuff sounds different......I made a 2 hour drive to hear my speakers and sub, and let me tell you it was worth it, then I bought it off the net for a little cheaper
07-25-2002, 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by lsondubz
i was talking with an audio guy last week.. hes been doing custom audio installs for people that comepete... for the past 10 yrs... he said never use capacitators? he said just get a better battery or put it an extra one?
i was talking with an audio guy last week.. hes been doing custom audio installs for people that comepete... for the past 10 yrs... he said never use capacitators? he said just get a better battery or put it an extra one?
07-25-2002, 10:03 AM
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Your thread title and your budget are at odds. For $600 you can't hardly get the stuff on your list that's only decent let alone "AWESOME" stuff. I spent almost $600 on just the four speakers I put in my Max. I don't think you can get 2 1F caps, 4 speakers, 2 amps (1 for sub and a 4 channel), speaker wire and a distro block for anywhere near $600.
For what you're listing to get midgrade stuff you're looking at probably at least $350 on amps, $150 on caps, $30 on speaker wire. and around $250 (or more) on speakers. And trust me when I say, more on speakers is good.
Stereodude
For what you're listing to get midgrade stuff you're looking at probably at least $350 on amps, $150 on caps, $30 on speaker wire. and around $250 (or more) on speakers. And trust me when I say, more on speakers is good.
Stereodude
07-25-2002, 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Stereodude
Your thread title and your budget are at odds. For $600 you can't hardly get the stuff on your list that's only decent let alone "AWESOME" stuff. I spent almost $600 on just the four speakers I put in my Max. I don't think you can get 2 1F caps, 4 speakers, 2 amps (1 for sub and a 4 channel), speaker wire and a distro block for anywhere near $600.
For what you're listing to get midgrade stuff you're looking at probably at least $350 on amps, $150 on caps, $30 on speaker wire. and around $250 (or more) on speakers. And trust me when I say, more on speakers is good.
Stereodude
Your thread title and your budget are at odds. For $600 you can't hardly get the stuff on your list that's only decent let alone "AWESOME" stuff. I spent almost $600 on just the four speakers I put in my Max. I don't think you can get 2 1F caps, 4 speakers, 2 amps (1 for sub and a 4 channel), speaker wire and a distro block for anywhere near $600.
For what you're listing to get midgrade stuff you're looking at probably at least $350 on amps, $150 on caps, $30 on speaker wire. and around $250 (or more) on speakers. And trust me when I say, more on speakers is good.
Stereodude
100 for the caps : )
07-25-2002, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Stereodude
Your thread title and your budget are at odds. For $600 you can't hardly get the stuff on your list that's only decent let alone "AWESOME" stuff. I spent almost $600 on just the four speakers I put in my Max. I don't think you can get 2 1F caps, 4 speakers, 2 amps (1 for sub and a 4 channel), speaker wire and a distro block for anywhere near $600.
For what you're listing to get midgrade stuff you're looking at probably at least $350 on amps, $150 on caps, $30 on speaker wire. and around $250 (or more) on speakers. And trust me when I say, more on speakers is good.
Stereodude
Your thread title and your budget are at odds. For $600 you can't hardly get the stuff on your list that's only decent let alone "AWESOME" stuff. I spent almost $600 on just the four speakers I put in my Max. I don't think you can get 2 1F caps, 4 speakers, 2 amps (1 for sub and a 4 channel), speaker wire and a distro block for anywhere near $600.
For what you're listing to get midgrade stuff you're looking at probably at least $350 on amps, $150 on caps, $30 on speaker wire. and around $250 (or more) on speakers. And trust me when I say, more on speakers is good.
Stereodude
07-25-2002, 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
ya i've been adding it up now that i've looked into it more and i think i'll have to up it a little but i think i can still do it. i can get two caps for 100 bucks from delio, i found kappa perfect speakers for 90 a pair for the front, still looknig for rears, i'll get a kenwood amp 4 channel 200watts RMS for around 200, speaker wire and distribution block and oterh wires for like 100 so that's like 600 bucks and then i'll need a sub amp for around 200 bucks. it should sound good. i like to somewhat take my time and get the best deals. i figure if i look i can get the speakers for 200 for all 4.
ya i've been adding it up now that i've looked into it more and i think i'll have to up it a little but i think i can still do it. i can get two caps for 100 bucks from delio, i found kappa perfect speakers for 90 a pair for the front, still looknig for rears, i'll get a kenwood amp 4 channel 200watts RMS for around 200, speaker wire and distribution block and oterh wires for like 100 so that's like 600 bucks and then i'll need a sub amp for around 200 bucks. it should sound good. i like to somewhat take my time and get the best deals. i figure if i look i can get the speakers for 200 for all 4.
07-25-2002, 03:47 PM
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Kappa's can't handle power.. they are weak..
well my system consist of..
Speakers
(Front) Diamond Audio M561 Components @ 120 Watts RMS
(Rear) Diamond Audio Hex Woofers @ 130 Watts RMS
(Sub) IDMax 12 Inch <-- king of the 12 inches (Moblie Entertainment) @ 1000 Watts RMS
i have nevered heard a better sounding sub than the IDMax.. i swear to God.. this sub is the best sounding sub i have ever heard.. SQ and SPL in one package..
Amps
(Front) Kicker 120.2
(Rear) Kicker 120.2
(Sub) Kicker 600.1
Head Unit
JVC SH-99
for the IDMax 12 i would recommend the JBL 1200 amp.. its cheap on price but big on performance..
you havn't heard a sub till you heard an IDMax
well my system consist of..
Speakers
(Front) Diamond Audio M561 Components @ 120 Watts RMS
(Rear) Diamond Audio Hex Woofers @ 130 Watts RMS
(Sub) IDMax 12 Inch <-- king of the 12 inches (Moblie Entertainment) @ 1000 Watts RMS
i have nevered heard a better sounding sub than the IDMax.. i swear to God.. this sub is the best sounding sub i have ever heard.. SQ and SPL in one package..
Amps
(Front) Kicker 120.2
(Rear) Kicker 120.2
(Sub) Kicker 600.1
Head Unit
JVC SH-99
for the IDMax 12 i would recommend the JBL 1200 amp.. its cheap on price but big on performance..
you havn't heard a sub till you heard an IDMax
07-25-2002, 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
(Sub) IDMax 12 Inch <-- king of the 12 inches (Moblie Entertainment) @ 1000 Watts RMS
(Sub) IDMax 12 Inch <-- king of the 12 inches (Moblie Entertainment) @ 1000 Watts RMS
07-25-2002, 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrus
Kicker Solo-barics. There are no substitutes.
-Cyrus
Kicker Solo-barics. There are no substitutes.
-Cyrus
my cousin had 1 Kicker 12 Solobaric in his Dodge Caravan.. mind you thats all Open Cabin.. so no bass is being defused.. and he had 400 watts going to it..
he now has an ID Max 12 ID4 in his Dodge Interpid in the trunk at only 200 watts.. and trust me it kicks the solobaric a$$ all over town.. the bass is tighter.. its more accurate.. its crazy..
then to make it worse.. i had another sub for a member here
and i was testing it in my car on my Kicker 600.1 
lets just say.. at 600 watts.. the sub was 10 times better than at 200 watts.. and my cousin was freaking out.. he wanted to go buy an Amp the next day .. it was freaking crazy in the difference.. and this sub takes 1000 - 1800 watts RMS.. not PEAK people.. RMS.. this sub kills anythign out there.. the cone has a 3 inch movement.. it literally moves 3 inches
07-25-2002, 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
I think I want to go up on my bass output especially on the high end volume. I could do a search but I'm supposed to be working. Do you know roughly what they cost?
I think I want to go up on my bass output especially on the high end volume. I could do a search but I'm supposed to be working. Do you know roughly what they cost?
$280 what we paid for them
thanks to OgreDave.. thanks for the hook up dawg they are hard as hell to get though..
07-25-2002, 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
i can pm you the link.. but it took us 4 months to get 2 and we are still waiting on 2 more.. since April..
CKNY has another link too.. check yoru pm's in 5 mins
i can pm you the link.. but it took us 4 months to get 2 and we are still waiting on 2 more.. since April..
CKNY has another link too.. check yoru pm's in 5 mins
Whaasup Delio!!!!
07-25-2002, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
I lost over $5000 over the last 3 weeks.
I lost over $5000 over the last 3 weeks.
07-25-2002, 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by delio
I would tell you what company I work for but I would get laughed at by too many org'ers... At least it's not Worldcom...yet.
I would tell you what company I work for but I would get laughed at by too many org'ers... At least it's not Worldcom...yet.
Ok back to car talk.
07-25-2002, 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
Arthur Andersen...
Ok back to car talk.
Arthur Andersen...
Ok back to car talk.
LOL
07-25-2002, 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by delio
Getting warmer... anywho... Any new mods on the way to compliment the FC intake? You were ecstatic at the Jersey City meet when you got that puppy in.
LOL
Getting warmer... anywho... Any new mods on the way to compliment the FC intake? You were ecstatic at the Jersey City meet when you got that puppy in.
LOL
07-29-2002, 07:23 AM
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Re: Help me Design an AWESOME sound system
Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
ok i'm thinking about rewiring the car and going full out on my stereo. i have the bose and i hate it for the record.
What i already have:
-Sirius Radio Tuner Box
-Terk Satellite Antenna
-Kenwood KDC MP-919 Headunit(3 4.5volt preouts, one non-fading)
-All the harnesses and adapters
-1 12.1 Infinity Kappa Perfect
-700watt no name Amp(will be replacing soon)
What i Want:
-6.5 inch Speakers for the front doors
-Maybe 2 2 channel amps for the front and rear speakers or am i better off with one 4 channel amp.
-5.25 Inch speakers for the rear doors
-Distribution Block
-Speaker cable to rewire whole car
-CAPACITORS, one per amp??? or can i run one for the whole system.
-amp to replace the crappy one for the SUB
thanks for all your input and help, i'm looking for the sound quality over loudness with teh speakers but i definelty want loud ones. the amps i want a decent name, but nothing too crazy, you cna get 100-200 watt 2 channel amps fro pretty cheap. i'm good with getting stuff cheap and i dont want to spend much over like 600 bucks and i know i can find a lot of it for good prices but i need to know that's the bst to get. thanks guys.
-steve
ok i'm thinking about rewiring the car and going full out on my stereo. i have the bose and i hate it for the record.
What i already have:
-Sirius Radio Tuner Box
-Terk Satellite Antenna
-Kenwood KDC MP-919 Headunit(3 4.5volt preouts, one non-fading)
-All the harnesses and adapters
-1 12.1 Infinity Kappa Perfect
-700watt no name Amp(will be replacing soon)
What i Want:
-6.5 inch Speakers for the front doors
-Maybe 2 2 channel amps for the front and rear speakers or am i better off with one 4 channel amp.
-5.25 Inch speakers for the rear doors
-Distribution Block
-Speaker cable to rewire whole car
-CAPACITORS, one per amp??? or can i run one for the whole system.
-amp to replace the crappy one for the SUB
thanks for all your input and help, i'm looking for the sound quality over loudness with teh speakers but i definelty want loud ones. the amps i want a decent name, but nothing too crazy, you cna get 100-200 watt 2 channel amps fro pretty cheap. i'm good with getting stuff cheap and i dont want to spend much over like 600 bucks and i know i can find a lot of it for good prices but i need to know that's the bst to get. thanks guys.
-steve
b) As far as speakers are concerned, I would look at JL Audio, Boston Acoustics, Focal, a/d/s, Eclipse Point Source, Rainbow, CDT
c) I agree with the second battery or the yellow top
d) Add an Audio Control DQT EQ
Is it going to be cheap? Uhhhhh...no.
07-29-2002, 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
i thought we were talkign about sound systemsh
i thought we were talkign about sound systems
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don't worry sprite! our idmax day in the sun will come!!
and how come your 600.1 is putting out 1000 watts and my birth sheet says 700. did someone get a little picky with which amps they picked?
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