Building my own ported box... need some tips.. what port tube to use?
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Building my own ported box... need some tips.. what port tube to use?
I decided to build my own box..
I'm going to be using a single 12" image dynamics IDQ sub..
I bought a bunch of 3/4" MDF at home depot, now i'm looking to buy the rest of the things i may need...
i'm thinking of a ported box, it is more complicated to build but everyone advises i go with that...
Questions:
1) as far as calculations.. my sub is reccomended to be a 1.5 cubic foot box.. but what should the measurement be for ported one?
2) also.. where do i stick the port? which side?
3) any difference in the port opening tubes? which size should i use?
also, looking for any tips or info as far as building a ported box is concerned..
I'm going to be using a single 12" image dynamics IDQ sub..
I bought a bunch of 3/4" MDF at home depot, now i'm looking to buy the rest of the things i may need...
i'm thinking of a ported box, it is more complicated to build but everyone advises i go with that...
Questions:
1) as far as calculations.. my sub is reccomended to be a 1.5 cubic foot box.. but what should the measurement be for ported one?
2) also.. where do i stick the port? which side?
3) any difference in the port opening tubes? which size should i use?
also, looking for any tips or info as far as building a ported box is concerned..
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Re: Building my own ported box... need some tips.. what port tube to use?
Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
I decided to build my own box..
I'm going to be using a single 12" image dynamics IDQ sub..
I bought a bunch of 3/4" MDF at home depot, now i'm looking to buy the rest of the things i may need...
i'm thinking of a ported box, it is more complicated to build but everyone advises i go with that...
Questions:
1) as far as calculations.. my sub is reccomended to be a 1.5 cubic foot box.. but what should the measurement be for ported one?
2) also.. where do i stick the port? which side?
3) any difference in the port opening tubes? which size should i use?
also, looking for any tips or info as far as building a ported box is concerned..
I decided to build my own box..
I'm going to be using a single 12" image dynamics IDQ sub..
I bought a bunch of 3/4" MDF at home depot, now i'm looking to buy the rest of the things i may need...
i'm thinking of a ported box, it is more complicated to build but everyone advises i go with that...
Questions:
1) as far as calculations.. my sub is reccomended to be a 1.5 cubic foot box.. but what should the measurement be for ported one?
2) also.. where do i stick the port? which side?
3) any difference in the port opening tubes? which size should i use?
also, looking for any tips or info as far as building a ported box is concerned..
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There are several free-ware box programs online. The best one I have found is WINISD Pro - http://www.linearteam.dk/
Aside from that the best sounding ports have flared ends. As in both ends are flared. But a compromise may be made by using a flare only on the end that exits the box. The larger the port entrance/exit surface area, the lower the speed of air in the port. When the air in the port reaches 5% the speed of sound or more, port noise is audible. So keep the port large enough to keep the air speed in the port below 17 m/s. Unfortunately the larger the port, the longer it needs to be to tune to the ideal frequency. That is why flared ports are ideal. The have a slight length increase over the non-flared version, but the sound characteristic of a larger port.
http://www.geocities.com/f4ier/vents.htm
And here is ID's site:
http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/
To purchase flared ports see: www.partsexpress.com
Aside from that the best sounding ports have flared ends. As in both ends are flared. But a compromise may be made by using a flare only on the end that exits the box. The larger the port entrance/exit surface area, the lower the speed of air in the port. When the air in the port reaches 5% the speed of sound or more, port noise is audible. So keep the port large enough to keep the air speed in the port below 17 m/s. Unfortunately the larger the port, the longer it needs to be to tune to the ideal frequency. That is why flared ports are ideal. The have a slight length increase over the non-flared version, but the sound characteristic of a larger port.
http://www.geocities.com/f4ier/vents.htm
And here is ID's site:
http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/
To purchase flared ports see: www.partsexpress.com
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Originally posted by Nore474
where do u reccomend on putting the ports
where do u reccomend on putting the ports
Example:
58 liter gross internal volume sub box
minus 4 liters for sub displacement, 1 liter for braceing, and 7 liters for port tube. Yields net volume of 46 liters. This becomes tricky because as the volume changes the tuning of the port changes.
A 58 liter enclosure tuned to 35 hz with a 4 inch round port requires the port to bu 10.5 inches long (2.7 l port). A 46 liter enclosure tuned to the same frequency requires a 4 inch round port to be 14 inches in length(3.6 l port). Now consider what happens if we want to extend the tuning freq down to 30 Hz for increased power handling at lower frequencies and increased sub bass output. The 56 liter box needs the port to be nearly 15.4 inches in length(4 l port). The 46 liter box needs the port to be just over 20 inches in length (5.2 l port). If you use flared ports add about an inch to the length of the port.
This is why it is important to calculate box and port dimensions before starting to cut.
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After you determine the proper diameter and length you need for your port(s). Parts Express has a decent selection of various sizes and types. If they don't have your size you can buy one too long and cut it down to size.
Brett
Brett
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For a 12 inch sub you will need to go with at least a 4 inch diameter port anything less and it will cost you SPL. You might want to consider going with a slot port design. It allows you to make the same area port one inch shorter than the comparable round port, helps to brace the enclosure, and can be made to any length you want. See the JL audio tech pages for examples and calculations.
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Originally posted by Maxima Dan
For a 12 inch sub you will need to go with at least a 4 inch diameter port anything less and it will cost you SPL. You might want to consider going with a slot port design. It allows you to make the same area port one inch shorter than the comparable round port, helps to brace the enclosure, and can be made to any length you want. See the JL audio tech pages for examples and calculations.
For a 12 inch sub you will need to go with at least a 4 inch diameter port anything less and it will cost you SPL. You might want to consider going with a slot port design. It allows you to make the same area port one inch shorter than the comparable round port, helps to brace the enclosure, and can be made to any length you want. See the JL audio tech pages for examples and calculations.
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Originally posted by jmax
I don't know where you came up with the theory that a slot can be shorter than a round port of equal surface area. I would like to see the math for the calculations. Where you gain this mysterious one inch is not actually one inch. It is half the height of the port wall that shares an enclsoure wall. So a 5 inch square port would act like a 2.5 inch longer port. More spl and sq can be gained by flareing the ends of the port, but once again the port will need to be a small degree longer.
I don't know where you came up with the theory that a slot can be shorter than a round port of equal surface area. I would like to see the math for the calculations. Where you gain this mysterious one inch is not actually one inch. It is half the height of the port wall that shares an enclsoure wall. So a 5 inch square port would act like a 2.5 inch longer port. More spl and sq can be gained by flareing the ends of the port, but once again the port will need to be a small degree longer.
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