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Old 11-22-2003, 08:58 PM
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looking to buy a system, need advice

i am a when it comes to this. i have a 98 maxima with the non-bose. i am looking to get a new headunit and speakers to add more bass and get a better sound quality. also, in time (or now if price is right), i want to add subs. im only 16, so i'm not looking to spend a whole lot on this, but i do have money. for the headunit, i am looking to one that will fit and also have compatible wires with the stock ones and speakers. with the speakers, i am looking for both front and rear. i've heard that alpine is a good direction to go in. am i going to need an amp or power source for any of this? any help is appreciated. thanks in advance.
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Do your preliminary shopping on www.crutchfield.com but do not buy from them unless you can find a good deal (ie: closeout). They do offer free tech support via phone and a killer return policy though......

Start with a deck and 4 speakers. Then work your way up. Good decks are Panasonic, Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, Eclipse, etc... I'm sure there are more I am missing. I would stay away from Sony, Jensen, Audiovox and anything else that sucks.
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do you know anyone that works at an electronics store (best buy, circuit city etc..), i have a buddy at best buy and just got everything for dang cheap (new rockford speakers, a kenwood mp3 deck, 2 12" sony subs, 2 rockford amps and a nice enclosure for around $600), usually employee discount is cost of item+5%, your car is looking good so far... and yes you will need at least a 4 channel amp for your speakers and then an amp for your subs plus an amp kit which runs around $45-60 depending on the quality of the wires
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i am a when it comes to this. i have a 98 maxima with the non-bose. i am looking to get a new headunit and speakers to add more bass and get a better sound quality. also, in time (or now if price is right), i want to add subs. im only 16, so i'm not looking to spend a whole lot on this, but i do have money. for the headunit, i am looking to one that will fit and also have compatible wires with the stock ones and speakers. with the speakers, i am looking for both front and rear. i've heard that alpine is a good direction to go in. am i going to need an amp or power source for any of this? any help is appreciated. thanks in advance.
im sellin my headunit Pioneer 730.
its mint.
comes with remote mounting backet detachable face CD fm am turner
selling this for 150 OBO. it was used for a yr and a half.
i was pushin 2 rockfords HX 12" off this puppy... u talk about power.
150 shipped to your door !
give me 200 and ill throw in a 600 Watt power inverter
and a pioneer CD-Rb20(gives u direct sound from AUX mode to TV- instead of listenin to a movie of the AM turner)
this would be a good deal if u plan on gettin a in-dash TV as redmax sells.

let me sup.
210 shipped to your door!!!

email me nvthispapii@aol.com
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Originally Posted by GoldenGlory
i was pushin 2 rockfords HX 12" off this puppy... u talk about power.
No offense, but I wouldn't take car stereo advice from anyone running subs with deck power.
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Originally Posted by psx2dude
do you know anyone that works at an electronics store (best buy, circuit city etc..), i have a buddy at best buy and just got everything for dang cheap (new rockford speakers, a kenwood mp3 deck, 2 12" sony subs, 2 rockford amps and a nice enclosure for around $600), usually employee discount is cost of item+5%, your car is looking good so far... and yes you will need at least a 4 channel amp for your speakers and then an amp for your subs plus an amp kit which runs around $45-60 depending on the quality of the wires
if you had hookups, why didn't you get some better subs?
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Originally Posted by GoldenGlory
im sellin my headunit Pioneer 730.
its mint.
comes with remote mounting backet detachable face CD fm am turner
selling this for 150 OBO. it was used for a yr and a half.
i was pushin 2 rockfords HX 12" off this puppy... u talk about power.
150 shipped to your door !
give me 200 and ill throw in a 600 Watt power inverter
and a pioneer CD-Rb20(gives u direct sound from AUX mode to TV- instead of listenin to a movie of the AM turner)
this would be a good deal if u plan on gettin a in-dash TV as redmax sells.

let me sup.
210 shipped to your door!!!

email me nvthispapii@aol.com
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i'm interested. what kind of shape is it in? how long did you use it, any warranty left? any pics of all of it?
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You don't NEED a 4 channel amp for the interiors.

These were my setup's over the past 2 years

Sound System 1) I had a Pioneer DEH-6500 with pioneer speakers (not bad) sounded all right for the time

Sound System 2) I added 2 12" subs with a 700 watt amp powering them. Too much bass

Sound System 3) Got rid of the Headunit and added Pioneer 6.5" DVD/TV. Cleaner sound

Sound System 4) Got 6.5" Eclipse Components with crossovers and an Eclipse 4 channel amp (800 watts) to power those and my rears.

My system is very clean and clear (SQ over SPL)

I would recommend for you a Nice headunit and maybe one 10" or 12" subs and a decent amp with nice wattage, no need to go outta control
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Originally Posted by Conrad283
You don't NEED a 4 channel amp for the interiors.

I would recommend for you a Nice headunit and maybe one 10" or 12" subs and a decent amp with nice wattage, no need to go outta control
Fully agreed.
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Conrad - Thanks for the input. What do you think of the HU that GoldenGlory is selling? The pioneer 730. Price looks pretty good and I have read good reviews. What speakers would be best to go with if I purchased the 730?
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Not trying to kill Will on the sale, I'm sure it's in excellent condition. But my personal preference is not to buy used audio goods. I also bought a couple of things off of Ebay, but the last thing I bought ( my amp ) we ( Pearl96max and I ) had some difficulty when installing it. Something wasn't right so therefore I haven't bought from Ebay nor used good since. I have bought all my stuff from Pearl96max since.

Here's a list of just about all the HU's that fit your car

http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...&avf=Y&search=

They have all different types, brands for all different prices. Check it out.
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if you had hookups, why didn't you get some better subs?
when i got all my stuff, i didnt know what was good and so i chose the sony's over the rest. still it hits way hard but im looking to upgrade sometime in the future
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Originally Posted by psx2dude
when i got all my stuff, i didnt know what was good and so i chose the sony's over the rest. still it hits way hard but im looking to upgrade sometime in the future
cool

sony stuff isn't up to par with other companies when it comes to car stereo
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I would be interested in hearing SONY's pound. I say its crap but never heard it to describe it (like the color, how much corn). I would rather know what it sounds like and complain than just complain my head off.

When I buy Ebay, I always keep it to VERY outdated stuff to give to friends that have nothing at all, or things with a NEW or WORKING guarantee. I always make a few contacts before a decent purchase + $50 just to make sure.
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I think I am going to go with the Pioneer DEH-P7500MP CD MP3 WMA Player for my Head Unit. What do you all think?
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That's a good unit. Check out this guy's stuff. I get most of my stereo stuff from him. Great prices and service.

http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=7779378&ssPageName=L2
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Originally Posted by DJ Kontakt
I would be interested in hearing SONY's pound. I say its crap but never heard it to describe it (like the color, how much corn). I would rather know what it sounds like and complain than just complain my head off.
i've heard them in person. my friend has a pair of tens in his accord and my tens pounded a lot harder than his. and this was when i had my small 200 watt amp and he was pushing 600 watts.
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Originally Posted by asu174
That's a good unit. Check out this guy's stuff. I get most of my stereo stuff from him. Great prices and service.

http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=7779378&ssPageName=L2
he does have a good price for it, best i have seen, thanks. what speakers do you think would be best to go with if i were to get this hu?
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i'm interested. what kind of shape is it in? how long did you use it, any warranty left? any pics of all of it?
conrad is on crack...

my items i sale are not crap and not beaten.
its all mint.
warranty..none. sorry.
but it all works.
i stand by my word.
like i said give me 210 shipped and it yours.
ill take pix tonight.
email me if you want it.
nvthispapii@aol.com

better yet, buy it. ill eat the shipping.
200 and its yours.
 
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No offense, but I wouldn't take car stereo advice from anyone running subs with deck power.
your just a moron.

 
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thanks anyway golden, but i've found some good prices on some stuff.
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update: i've found some good prices on these, tell me what you all think:

Pioneer DEH-P750MP - http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_...s.jsp?cid=4394
found for:$235.00


Infinity KAPPA 63.5I for rear - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MC4VMVy....asp?i=108635I
found for: $99


Infinity Reference 6000cs for front - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MC4VMVy...sp?i=1086000CS
found for: $105.00

What do you all think? Links are just for info, not where I am buying from.

EDIT: I hear I will need an amp for these speakers, so does anyone reccomend a certain amp? What will work best without going too expensive?
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R5, me and you are in a very similar situation. This thread is now my bible. After Xmas, I'm going system shopping. Anyone have feedback on those speakers he suggested?
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I happen to run those infinity 63.5i's in the rear. Sound very good in fact ironically they sound better than the Infinity 60.5cs's. The tweets on those are crap.

As for the fronts, check out
www.thezeb.com
and check out the ctd cl61a's. Those are a lot louder and clearer than those infinitys. Can't be beat for $150 and they run at 90w RMS.
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amps, for an ok price some decent amps are Rockford Fosgate, Alpine, JBL probably. If you have more money, look at PPI, Hifonics, JL Audio, maybe Kicker.

I have a set of Kicker components (K65.2 i think) powered by Performance Teknique amp (ICBM 774) and they sound SWEET! My two Kicker CompVR subs are powered by ICBM 779 and those things BUMP! If you were to ask if PT was good, I'd say YES. That's personal experience.
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Originally Posted by kevinsean23
I happen to run those infinity 63.5i's in the rear. Sound very good in fact ironically they sound better than the Infinity 60.5cs's. The tweets on those are crap.

As for the fronts, check out
www.thezeb.com
and check out the ctd cl61a's. Those are a lot louder and clearer than those infinitys. Can't be beat for $150 and they run at 90w RMS.
I checked out the site on those, but how do you select them to buy/add to cart or whatever? They look good and the price is right. I will need an amp with these, right? Thanks for the input.
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K...found out how to order on thezeb...

What do you all think of the CDT Audio CL61a (http://www.cdtaudio.com/classic2000MidDriv.htm for reference) as my front speakers and the Infinity 63.5I (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MC4VMVy....asp?i=108635I for reference) with the Pioneer 750 as a head unit (http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_...s.jsp?cid=4394)?

And does it matter that the CDT Audio speakers run at 90 watts rms and the Inifity run at 75 watts rms?
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Originally Posted by R5a7B
K...found out how to order on thezeb...

What do you all think of the CDT Audio CL61a (http://www.cdtaudio.com/classic2000MidDriv.htm for reference) as my front speakers and the Infinity 63.5I (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MC4VMVy....asp?i=108635I for reference) with the Pioneer 750 as a head unit (http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_...s.jsp?cid=4394)?

And does it matter that the CDT Audio speakers run at 90 watts rms and the Inifity run at 75 watts rms?
1. Never heard of CDT, so not much help there

2. Kappas are supposed to be good. So i say go for it if you can find a good deal

3. I have an older version of pioneer 750, no complains so far, say go for it!

4. It's okay that they are different wattage. Are you gonna use an amp with these ( you should man, pioneer only give out about 25W RMS). Just tune the amp correctly and you'll be fine. Keep in mind not to give as much power to infinitis as you give to CDT.
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4-channel amp? how many watts do you reccomend? I don't plan on getting subs for a little while, probably a couple months.
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I would recommend something between 80 and 100W RMS per channel. Yes, four channel would be the best.

It's okay if you don't want the subs now, you can add them later. You'll need a separate amp for them anyway.
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2 channel amp for the front speakers. Save your money so that when you get the sub or subs you can get the best one's available and the best mono sub amp you can afford.
 
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Originally Posted by jmax
2 channel amp for the front speakers. Save your money so that when you get the sub or subs you can get the best one's available and the best mono sub amp you can afford.
not true. Why not do it right the first time? Get best for speakers and then subs.
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not true. Why not do it right the first time? Get best for speakers and then subs.

Let's see now. 2 speakers that are used in the front of any normal car and one sub in the trunk. I only count 3 channels. Are you using some new age math? Or do you really want the sound stage behind hte head of the driver? There is a big difference between doing it right and doing it completely wrong. The only reason for a 4 channel in a normal car setup is to biamp the front compontents.
 
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Originally Posted by jmax
Let's see now. 2 speakers that are used in the front of any normal car and one sub in the trunk. I only count 3 channels. Are you using some new age math? Or do you really want the sound stage behind hte head of the driver? There is a big difference between doing it right and doing it completely wrong. The only reason for a 4 channel in a normal car setup is to biamp the front compontents.
dude, maxima is a sedan with four speakers, so if you decide to change something, you gotta change 'em all, otherwise it becomes a mickymouse. It just happens, that I (and I'm sure many other people too) have friends in the back a lot of times and yes, I do want them to enjoy quality music as well. So basic math is, 4 speakers, 4 channel amp, at least that's what I was refering to in my previous posts

But the setup is really up to R5a7B. All depends on person's preference.
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Originally Posted by GoldenGlory
your just a moron.

1. Y-O-U-R is "your". Y-O-U-'-R-E is "you are". If you are going to try and insult someone's intelligence, at least get the grammar right.
2. The only moron I see here is the one who says that his deck power makes his subwoofers pound. Your deck puts out 20 watts RMS. Who do you think you're kidding?
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I ordered the Pioneer 750 last night for $250 shipped and insured off ebay new. I'm still thinking about speakers and most likeley the 4-channel is my top choice for an amp, just not sure which one yet. Thanks for all who have replied. Anyone else with opinions/advice is welcome to post.
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Use the deck power for a while and see how you like it. It very well might be enough.
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