I'm looking at the Elemental Designs e10K.44 / 14 10" sub. I know some members here have ED subs in their maxes and seem happy with them. I have not heard them in person before. Any opinions on their products? Thanks for any replies

 

Not in person. I have read good reviews on termpro. You can do a search and find someone who owns them and pm/email them. I have never come across any negative feedback.

 

Yeah, I've read good reviews on them as well. They seem pretty good for their price.

 

For the most part people don't buy unknown product names. There are sooooo many quality, and in some cases superior, products but won't be had b/c it doesn't say Kicker, or whatever. Let me know how it turns out.

I see you have an 89' Grey GXE. I had an 89' SE. I loved it.

 

they are awesome subs. i would recommend them to anyone.

 

There subs are amazing. Definatly worth the buy. BTW, if you're interested I have 2 12 o.44's for sale.

 

I've got the e12A and it pounds. The only thing is that it is such a great low bass driver that you won't get any midrange out of it. Of course any good driver that will get low is that way. So now I'm looking for some midbass. I'm pushing it mono with the gain only half way and it's plenty of bass. The enclosure volumes are super small too.

 

Midrange out of a 12" sub???

Anyway, I've never heard anything bad about E.D. If properly installed you should be very happy, Fosgate Fan!

Tony

 

i heard a e15a and wsa quite impressed with the output. some guy brought it into my local shop and thats where i saw it. the sub was well built and made from off the counter parts (its basically made from pieces of other subs, which isnt a bad thing at all).
the sub handled 1200watts with ease, and sounded quite nice, the shop owner was impressed with it also.
i would give the company a thumbs up for there effort. i personally wouldnt buy one because i like to buy local, you know, see it before you buy it, and i like to be able to go to the local shop for assistance, but ED seems like a good company and people have had great luck with them.

 

yeah they sound like a very good company. was thinking of getting them when i upgrade later on. thanks for all the replies!

-Gordon

 

The 15A is currently discontinued, ED has been having severe problems with the flat cone design, even the 12a has suffered from this.
Go do a search over on www.caraudioforum.com

I feel like ive been hating on every1 **** latley but im really not doing it on purpose. Just saying whats true

Btw-ED is currently "upgrading" and should release its new version (non-flat cone) of the 15a, and im sure the 12a will soon be following.

 

Here's a decent forum dedicated to ED:

http://forum.soundillusions.net/forumdisplay.php?f=20

 

nah it's cool, i'm kinda glad that i got to hear "both sides of the story"

is the problem with the flat cone flexing? i guess a traditional speaker cone design is stronger, geometrically, than a flat surface.

 

As far as the cone flexing, im not sure but from the looks of it the cone on the A-series is pretty sturdy.
The problem that some have been having is the former is becoming unglued from the cone.
Here is a pic from This thread explaining what happend.
*56K warning*
http://www.snatchfactory.com/rob/DSCF0086.JPG

Its nothing severe, but it will definetly keep the sub from working as it should

 

In all honesty, I was considering getting the 15a last year. I almost did, came REALLY close. Read all the reviews, ect... and was somewhat impressed by it. Reason I didnt was the 3-6month waiting list.
I ended up paying a bit more, but im VERY satisfied with the choice I made.
I got a Brahma mk2 15, it costs more but I definetly do not regret that purchase. That sub is MEAN

 

ed will be a great company once they get the kinks worked out. that former prob has happened to a few guys over at si.net. what about Re or Si subs?

 

Absolutley! They make some sweet subs, its a shame that they have to go through such dumb problems as the glue letting go, the sub is still fine but still...
As far as RE subs The only damaged RE sub ive seen was caused by UPS punting the box Si

I think ED's problem isnt as big as it seems. Only thing is its an online based company so every little problem is blown up on forums. I bet RF and JL have hand 10x more problems in the long run, we just dont hear about them all.

 

exactly. not to mention people throw too much power on them because they need to reach its rms or surpass it. one guy had a 1200.1 on his 12 a and its former came off. surprise surprise.

 

seriously, if you have the money go with a brahma. it's hands-down the best sub on the market and costs much less than the JL W7, but not everyone can take that much bass and the max wasn't really made to support a sub like that in the first place

 

Brahmas sure are some nice subs, but they certainly aren't the best sub on the market. The term "best" is fairly subjective anyway, not to mention entirely dependent on application and installation.

Huh???????

Tony

 

I would have to agree, I hate saying the Brahma is the best period. I feel like im tootin my own horn but its definetly up there in the ranks among "the best" Considering what the sub can do for the $ amount, personally id say its in the top 3.
The Transperancy of the sub is just amazing, you cant really tell which direction the bass it coming from. It does one hell of a job getting its sound up to the front. Ok ill stop there, I can literally go on for a while

The install, I will allways agree with that.

If I made a video of what the Brahma does to my trunk, you'd understand. I rear fired the sub and the flexing I get is just downright stupid. The area were the rear windsheild meets the back of the trunk lid flexes a good 2", trunk lid looks like its about to blow right off, it already broke one of my clear corners due to the vibration & im hoping the rear bumper stays in place. Even that is shaking

This could all be solved by front firing the sub, but the bass is more IN the car with rear-fire. I dont know anymore, too many options I want to, but I dont have the time to try them all.

 

Well I'm more like 70% SQ and 30% SPL. The Brahma seems like a SPL beast, and I think, from his post, that HitManSE can attest to that

How is the Brahma in terms of SQ?

 

In terms of SQ...perfection. In my Ported box it sounds great as far as SQ goes. If you want true SQ, throw it into a sealed box and you'd be hard pressed to find a sub that will do what the Brahma can in terms of SQ. Ive seen many people say they like the sound of the brahma better then the W7. The W7 is more of an in your face sub, some like that, some dont. Personally I like the sound/feel of the Brahma better then most any sub ive heard.

The Brahma (belive or not) is actually a SQ sub, it can however get devastingly loud. Funny thing is, even if your slamming 140db, even then every note is hit dead on. It doesnt add and extra "boom" as some subs do to certain notes, it re-produces the sound perfectly, as it was meant to be heard. XBL2 is an amazing thing

Like I said, I hate to keep saying so much about the Brahma, but if you hear one im sure you'd agree

http://www.adireaudio.com/mobile_aud...hma_series.htm

 

Wow, just based on the looks of the thing, it screams SPL. Didn't know it was intended for SQ

 

Check your PMs

 

I know exactly what you're talking about. Our trunks aren't made as sturdy as they should be. My 2 e12o's are making the trunk lid look like it is the subwoofer sometimes

I'll make a video of what happens to the trunk when I get a chance to, its kinda funny and scary at the same time.

Would sound deadening the trunk help? There's so many rattles and things vibrating its rediculous.

 

oh yea, forgot to mention... eD is definately a great sub manufacturer, their subs SCREAM quality.. they sound great, get loud, are inexpensive, come with a very good warranty.. what more do you want?

 

Thats WITH about 5-6 layers of sound deadner!!

 

I've got an ed 12a. It's perfect for my needs. It's the most versatile sub I have ever owned. Somehow it just knows when to be boomy, and when not to be. The only way to explain it is that it is musically accurate.

 

That it is, your sub sound great man. Very tight and accurate. I havnt had a chance to listen to it much, but for what it is, in s 1ft^3 sealed box it works some magic.