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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Aftermarket stereo question...

I want to ask this in the 4th gen. forum since it gets many people reading it, but if it gets moved, so be it.
I went to circuit city to buy an aftermarket headunit for my 1996 Maxima SE with Bose since, like most owners, I'm experiencing some problems with the original equipment. I was told because of the setup of the factory Bose stereo (something to do with having pre-amps or something for each speaker) that I would run the risk of burning out my setup if I tried to replace it. Has anyone heard of this before?
For those with aftermarket headunits, have/are you experiencing any problems?
Thanks guys.
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By the way, I was looking to replace with nothing over $200 dollars incl. all the wiring adapters, etc. if that makes a difference in your opinion.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Yeah all speakers need to be replaced as well when getting rid of the bose.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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really? thats ridiculous
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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read the faqs, it explains why you need to replace all speakers
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
I want to ask this in the 4th gen. forum since it gets many people reading it, but if it gets moved, so be it.
I went to circuit city to buy an aftermarket headunit for my 1996 Maxima SE with Bose since, like most owners, I'm experiencing some problems with the original equipment. I was told because of the setup of the factory Bose stereo (something to do with having pre-amps or something for each speaker) that I would run the risk of burning out my setup if I tried to replace it. Has anyone heard of this before?
For those with aftermarket headunits, have/are you experiencing any problems?
Thanks guys.
Lou

By the way, I was looking to replace with nothing over $200 dollars incl. all the wiring adapters, etc. if that makes a difference in your opinion.
If you just wanna replace the head unit you can you just need the bose adapter you can get it at crutchfield thats where I got mine. I've been running it for a few months now and I think it sounds good and I have no complaints so I don't know who said if you change out the HU that you would have to replace all of the speakers.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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sorry terran, I've read them, I can't remember reading that section though. I was looking at crutchfield, but before I start speculating, it's off to faq's.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Why sorry to me?

I don't actually have the bose, so I'm just repeating what I heard. Sounds like Zach95SE's solution is a winner as long as your speakers are in good condition.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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terran- I just got done looking through the 4th gen. faq's and couldn't find the part on the stereo. Is there another place I should be looking? Also, is there a possibility that the info was lost when the org went down? Anyway, circuit city offers many adapters (wiring, etc.) that don't specifically say that they change over from Bose, but are just "Nissan" adapters. Is this the same thing as Zach is talking about?
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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i'm acutally selling a pac-oem2 unit that allows you to use the aftermarket headunit. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=339907
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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i'm acutally selling a pac-oem2 unit that allows you to use the aftermarket headunit. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=339907
The adapter that Killcrap is selling is the only thing you need to switch your head unit from BOSE to anything aftermarket. It is $50 from Crutchfield so if he is selling for less then you might as well buy it.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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i just put in a aftermarket headunit this weekend cuz my bose cd player crapped out, i went to a local car stereo shop they told me how to bypass the amps it took me about 5 mins to do it. all i did was tied the two black wires on the pluge together and grounded them. it works great, the sound is a whole lot better than it was before with the bose, now i know that im running a risk of burning the speakers but oh well , if they go ill get new ones (aftermarket) the risk to doing this is that the aftermarket radio puts out 4 ohm impediance and the speakers are only 1 ohm ( correct me if im wrong) but i was blasting the radio all night last night and nothing happened yet.
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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I bought a pioneer deck and a install kit from wall mart and installed my self in like 30 minutes. I didn't bypass anything. And I have the bose?
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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big lou, i was the one telling you look at the faq's not terran

it is in the how to's but here ill give you a direct link
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...7&postcount=27

there ya go!
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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you should just do what maranello did or shift my vq. ive had my aftermarket hu installed without ne special adapters, and 4 months later, everything is as good as when i first got the hu
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 02:05 AM
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Running a pio 7500 with two 15's pushing in the back w/o the converter now for a year...nothing wrong yet
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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if u want to hook up an aftermarket HU with stock bose system, u'll need to spend an additional $60 and buy PAC ROEM-NIS2 Bose Converter.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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the Bose speakers are .75ohm .... you can wire around the amps... I would use a 1 or 2 ohm stable amp to power the system............ you do not have to worry about burning out the speakers.... the part that can fail running reduced loads is the power supply inside your headunit... they are designed for a 4ohm load.... so when you run a .75ohm the power supply is trying to make 5 or 6 times the power it is designed for... that said it will work.....how long depends on your headunit.... rewiring the system and using a 1ohm stable amp will give you excellent sound and years of trouble free service
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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how did u guys with the aftermarket headunit make the power antenna work with the radio cuz every time i turn on the radio the antenna goes up and stays there even if i play cd's, the only time it goes down is when i remove the cd from the headunit, but as soon as i put the cd back in it goes up again.?
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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you'll need to wire up a switch to make it go on when ever you want it to. it gets real anoying when the grease isnt there.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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r u serious? that really sucks is that what u guys did
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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yep! thats the downside to the excellent hu pioneer makes. not too hard though. i have mine kinda hanging in the glove compartment. i hardly ever listen to the radio anyways.
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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is every head unit like this or just the pioneer(i have the ph 6400)?
Old Sep 27, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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well if the headunit has 2 outputs Amp on and Antenna on, then you probably wont have this problem.
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Im planning to replace my Bose headunit with an Alpine CDA-9833 headunit. There seems to be 2 adapters I can use. Crutchfield list the adapter as the

Scosche OEM Amplifier Adapter
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mCkPSJ0...lifier+Adapter

There is also the PAC OEM-2, which many people use.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mCkPSJ0...earch=pac+oem2

Which one should I go with? Is there any major differences between the two? The Scosche is about $20 more than the PAC. If anyone has either of these, I would like to hear what you think about it. Thanks!
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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in my car with an Alpine 9815 the antenna only goes on when I use the radio so I think it is up to if there is an antenna wire or not and if you wire it up correctly.
Old Feb 6, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JeEvE
Im planning to replace my Bose headunit with an Alpine CDA-9833 headunit. There seems to be 2 adapters I can use. Crutchfield list the adapter as the

Scosche OEM Amplifier Adapter
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mCkPSJ0...lifier+Adapter

There is also the PAC OEM-2, which many people use.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mCkPSJ0...earch=pac+oem2

Which one should I go with? Is there any major differences between the two? The Scosche is about $20 more than the PAC. If anyone has either of these, I would like to hear what you think about it. Thanks!

Anyone know which one is better between the Scosche and the PAC adapters?
Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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No, the speakers do Not have to be replaced if changing the HU.

Yes, a direct connect *can* work for a limited time.

Yes an 'adaptor *can* be used.

No, and adaptor is Not needed to make it work and continue working.

Simple task...get the harness your brand choice, but Metra is 7550..takes all of the speaker leads and connect them to Male RCA ends. Then plug the RCA ends into the preouts of your HU. Done. and quite simple. If this doesnt apply to your HU, then an adaptor may be needed.

All the Bose HU does is send a signal, that is the same as working with preouts of a HU.

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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Thanks Don for clearing that up. Im going with an Alpine CDA-9833 which has 3 sets so it has a total of 6 outputs. Im a little confused about how to wire it up, do I need 8 outputs for all the speakers?
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Originally Posted by JeEvE
Thanks Don for clearing that up. Im going with an Alpine CDA-9833 which has 3 sets so it has a total of 6 outputs. Im a little confused about how to wire it up, do I need 8 outputs for all the speakers?
No you only need 4. One for each speaker. Connect the positive of of the male rca to the positive speaker lead. Negative/shield to the negative of the speaker lead. and so forth..then plug them in. Or I actually already have these here if you need one.

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