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Old 01-13-2005, 09:02 PM
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what 12" to buy??

Im looking for 12" sub

Ive had kicker L5's and L7's and liked them.
Had audiobahn alumq's and liked them
had mtx, didnt like (blew)
had JL, didnt like, but i had a cheap sub (blew )
and also had other cheap brands to that arent worth lsiting.


Brands im looking at are KICKER L7s , JBL, audiobahn ultra excursion, alpine type r or type s, polk...

what else is good?

Keep in mind i only having 1 12" sub and its gona be in a sealed box.
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what else is good?
Hundreds of subs. Here's a small sample:
Adire Audio - A few 12's at different price points and quality. They are all great values.
Sound Splinter - Built by TC Sounds. Excellent sound quality.
Elemental Design - Built by Image Dynamics. Haven't heard them but they do have a lot of fans. There are a few people critical of the owner though.
Dayton Audio - Parts Express house brand. The DVC and Titanic lines are great. The Quatro is an excellent bargain.
Ascendant Audio - The company has only been around a few weeks but the sub designer has been a DIY guy for years. Nothing but great reviews from the few subs that are out in customer's hands.
AE Speakers - Formerly Stryke Audio (until Rockford Fosgate sued him). The parts are still being shipped for the AV series but they are worth the wait. I have a pair of AV12's from the last batch. They are an incredible sub.
O Audio - Same sub as the Soundsplinter RPL-i (low end model) 12".
Resonant Engineering - Different drivers at different price points. All of them are a good value.

I'll keep adding sites as I think of them.

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thanks man, im having a hard time deciding cause there is so many diffrent subs!
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adire audio

But in the end, pick the sub that sounds nice to you
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I just hope that Cillean Brahmas still sound the same.
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mb quart reference ... but listen to setups locally to get what you want so you won't regret the money you dumped into whatever you went for... great advice that stuck with me...
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Originally Posted by Robert_J
Hundreds of subs. Here's a small sample:
Adire Audio - A few 12's at different price points and quality. They are all great values.
Sound Splinter - Built by TC Sounds. Excellent sound quality.
Elemental Design - Built by Image Dynamics. Haven't heard them but they do have a lot of fans. There are a few people critical of the owner though.
Dayton Audio - Parts Express house brand. The DVC and Titanic lines are great. The Quatro is an excellent bargain.
Ascendant Audio - The company has only been around a few weeks but the sub designer has been a DIY guy for years. Nothing but great reviews from the few subs that are out in customer's hands.
AE Speakers - Formerly Stryke Audio (until Rockford Fosgate sued him). The parts are still being shipped for the AV series but they are worth the wait. I have a pair of AV12's from the last batch. They are an incredible sub.
O Audio - Same sub as the Soundsplinter RPL-i (low end model) 12".
Resonant Engineering - Different drivers at different price points. All of them are a good value.

I'll keep adding sites as I think of them.

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so my hunch awhile ago was right that ED is now built by ID. howd you verify this information?
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my diamond audio TDX is nice, the M6's and CM3 are nice too
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I took Robert's advice and bought a 10" dvc from Soundsplinter. I am more than just a little impressed with the sound and output that this sub puts out, specially at $159 dollars. I bought an RL-i series sub, the lower line of the two lines they carry. From my experience with he RL-i sub I would think their Premium line the RL-p would be a great subwoofer. Mike the owner is a really nice guy, and he will answer any questions you have. I plan on buying another sub from him for my wife's car.
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so my hunch awhile ago was right that ED is now built by ID. howd you verify this information?
Over at ICIX. Ben has never come out and said it directly but some of his reps have.

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hey Robert are you getting the new ATLAS sub, the one with xbl^2 driver?
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hey Robert are you getting the new ATLAS sub, the one with xbl^2 driver?
I'd really like one but my wife thinks I have too many subs right now. I could buy it but it would cost me 3 or 4 times the cost after I add in flowers/jewelry to keep her happy.

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If you did want JL, go with the 12 W6 second gen. They hit as hard and IMO sound better than the W7. It really depends upon what you like. I'm in the market for some new ones myself. Right now I'm running 2 10" Punch DVC's (HX2 gen 1) in my trunk in a ported box (man what a difference a correctly tuned ported box can make). These will be up for sale if someone wants them. Will sell them separately. But 12's are definitely the way to go and you also may want to ask 1 of the moderators in the Audio section name PearlMax aka Don. He can get you some great deals on stereo equipment.
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Originally Posted by Robert_J
Over at ICIX. Ben has never come out and said it directly but some of his reps have.

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ok. so your reading the same stuff i am.
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i had one 15" powerbass extreme sub in my trunk of my accord, and even with dynamat, i couldnt stop the vibrations lol... powerbass extreme is their top model, and they are very good quality, especially for the price (i think)... if you go to their site, they also give you the dimensions to get the best sound quality out of their subs... http://www.powerbassusa.com but their site seems to be running slow as h3ll...
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im also looking for a nice system..and from what i read from this whole forum and other info..im looking towards 1 12" brahma in a sealed box..does anyone know any good amps to power this sub at around $400-500?
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you can find an amp for less. what size sealed box do you plan on using?
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i plan on using a a 1.25 cu.ft. sealed box
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Just got my 12" eclipse titanium setup finally. It went into a 3.2 cu feet box per the recommended volume specs from eclipse. This box is damn huuuge! I got the woofer for 320+shipping on ebay (ened up being about 350 since the thing was like 40 lbs and handling). It's still breaking in but sounds alot better then the dual 10w3's i had before. I've never owned an eclipse product before, but it's defiantly a solid built crazy looking woofer, with a gigantic fat almost 2" sorround and a titanium cover that really looks cool.

here's a pic of my trunk install:

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Originally Posted by roll4life
i plan on using a a 1.25 cu.ft. sealed box
then 600 watts is plenty for it.
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that looks nice mjg, btw that alpine amp is hugee! how much does it put out?
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Get whatever is cheap and build the perfect box for it. No matter what the sub, it will sound as good as any of the subs you have listed ... maybe better due to better efficiency.

www.mcmelectronics.com has a bunch of generic subs that would do perfectly.
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Old 01-19-2005, 09:31 AM
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thanks 2damax;

I got it setup for 1000 rms @ 2 ohms. This amp does 2ohms stable, and it's a class d monoblockl. The tuning setup is freaking awesome it's all digital and very easy to use. I'm still wondering if i should make a cover to hide all the wires or something as someone suggested.
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well i see you already bolted down the box cuz you couldve put all your shiet back there, i guess you could cut holes in the mat and run wires under, but the thick wires will bulge under.
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i just found out the box was way too big, alot of people are sporting 1 cubic foot boxes. (smacks head).
The manual is confusing and i wasn't sure what VAS was, me and my friend thought the sealed box should be 3.2 cu feet, so we made it that way...

So i guess in a few weeks i'll make another box, and maybe a raised floor like i was saying with the holes in it. : /
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be careful with the gains on the sub's amp. power handling decreases as the enclosure increases.
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Yeah, that box is too big. My Eclipse Ti 15" is in a little more than 3 cubes PORTED tuned to 33-34hz. Who or what from Eclipse showed you those specs?
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in the PDF file on eclipse's website they mentioned a VAS of 3.2 cubic feet. For some reason i thought that had something to do with the volume of the box.
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.. wait that box aint ported!! i have a 1 cubic foot box for sale. what part of ny do u live in?
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im selling it for 30 or so. its 3/4 mdf and that bich is all sealed up!! my friend was suppose to buy it but he assed out on me.
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i live on long island. Is it for a 12? Let's see a pic??
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ok ill show u a pic. its in my room right now hold up
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not too much of a good pic, but its 1 cubic foot, and carpeted. where i li do you live?
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you got aim, pm me your screen name.
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av2daizzeye, give me a half hour, its now 920, i got to go take out this return line from my boys turbo and ill brb
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Originally Posted by mjg
in the PDF file on eclipse's website they mentioned a VAS of 3.2 cubic feet. For some reason i thought that had something to do with the volume of the box.
VAS=Equivalent air compliance. The volume of air that has the same compliance ("springiness") as the driver's suspension. Because less air is more "springy" than more air, a large Vas represents a "loose" suspension

Taken from DIY Subwoofers

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yo mjg











dont worry ill fix the carpet up for you.
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cool, how thick is the wood??
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