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Old 01-30-2005, 02:21 PM
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subwoofer help, Alpine Type Rs

Im planning on replacing my Bose soon but Im not sure what I should go with. I was planning on Boston components up front, Alpine headunit and for subs, Im not sure what I should go with. Im not going for bass that will make my car fall apart but I still want something that hits hard and clean. I was thinking about going with a 10" Alpine Type R (300 watt 2 ohm) in a sealed box and an Alpine amp (350 watt 2 ohms). A friend that works at Circuit City told me it would be okay for a hatch but not a trunk. Should I got with 2 10" Alpine Type Rs? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
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id go with 1 10 or 12" ported type r.
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yea either a 12 ported or two twelves sealed...i've never heard a ported type r application though
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10" or 12" ported. up to you on how much trunk space you're willing to give up.
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Thanks for all the replies. The reason I didnt consider a ported box was because I read and heard that sealed would sound cleaner. Is this true?

I dont think trunk space is going to be an issue. I am going to have them sit as far back as possible and make a wall across with holes for the subs and have my NX bottle on the side or leave it in the spare tire well. This should still leave me with some amount of trunk space.

I just dont know if its worth spending the extra money toward an another sub and bigger amp to power both. Im also trying to do a touch screen car computer so if I can save money on subs it would be nice. Thanks again.
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:44 PM
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i have that same amp, and boy with the 12 ported lets just say........ hhm MAAAAAAAAAD BASSS NIGGGA.lol

you should just get one 12 in a sealed box if you dont want that much bass, mine is ported and i love it. it hits nice and clean.
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It is true that sealed will sound cleaner but it also wont be as loud...and Type Rs are good enough so that itll still sound pretty clean ported.

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i was listening to down south music on the type r, then i played some linkin park. all i have to say is that im glad that i listen to mostly rap and reggae because i think the rock and heavy metal sound better in the sealed. how can i explain it... in the seal when listen to rock and shiet you could feel the bass punch you but when ported you just hear a little thump. i duno thats just me
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Old 01-30-2005, 10:34 PM
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^^^ you are correct but the box tune plays a role in that also.
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i know exactly what he means. it's the sq tightness man. same here, i'm tuned to 34 so it's decently low, and for rock it really sounded better sealed. i dont relaly care too much though
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yeah, tuning plays a role. mine's tuned to 28 and it's still nice and punchy except for the fastest beats. linkin park sounds the same for me, just a bit louder.
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Im going to go for a single Type R, probably a 10", in a ported enclosure. Ill see how that sounds and if anything, I can always buy another one. Anyone have any suggestions for a nice ported box. Thanks.
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Maybe I missed something, but if you're building the box yourself, why don't you just make it sealed first, see how it sounds, and then if you aren't happy, port the thing?
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2 12's sealed getting 230rms each at 2ohm....in .9cu/ft boxes. sounds amazing
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I wasnt planning on building a box. It will probably be easy to do but i dont thing my carpeting will come out too nice. I can always just put a port in the sealed box I get.

craig10114, did you ever run the single 12" ever? Its hard to tell from your sig pic, but do you have two seperate enclosures?
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i think you'll get better sound from the polk/momo's in a sealed enclosure for the max. just my .02 you really don't even need that big of a box for the momo's - just build the box to the spec's of which ever subs you are running, good luck ! it's all a geometry game!
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i'm running a single 12" in a 2.5 cu ft box. i love it!
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:34 PM
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need i say more?




get what i got and you be set :]
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^^ what are the specs on that box? do you know the tuning?
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I currently have one 10" Soundsplinter sub in my car. I am running it with an Alpine MRD-M501, putting out around 500 watts RMS (actually 581.4 watts RMS at 14.4v, but according to the amps display 14.4v is not the norm for my max). The speaker is in a .70 cubic foot box. I am very happy with how this setup sounds. It goes deep, it is tight and clean. Does not get as loud as my old setup, Kicker KX600.1 and 12" L7, but that was not what I was after when I changed my setup(I wanted a little more trunk room and cleaner sound from my sub). I paid $159 dollars for it, plus $10 bucks for shipping. I bought the 3/4" MDF box from a shop that I've been going to for years, so they let me get it for $30 dollars . So for around $200 bucks I got a good subwoofer setup .

Couple of shots, not great as these were taken with my camcorder.

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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
^^ what are the specs on that box? do you know the tuning?
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yes i have 2 seperate enclosures....i built it myself and when its all done you will see hwo the design plays into itself.

i ran one for 2 days while i finished the second box. i gave it 460 watts RMS and damn did it sound good. nice and crisp and it gave me a really nice sound.
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460? dam or 460 for both? i thought it could only handle 300
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"low tuning frequency" eh? it doesn't give you a specific number?
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when iw as only running 1 it was getting 460 now they each get 230 but their each going to be gettign around 400 within in the next few months when i get my new amps 1 more for the subs and an interior amp
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lol those aren't specs
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I am possibly going to be buying an 03 Maxima and putting 2 JL 12 W3V2's in a bandpass box facing into the driving compartment. Does anyone have a similar setup with the amps facing into the driving compartment?
Does it sound really good?
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:16 PM
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i'd stay away from a bandpass box...
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please don't do bandpass
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I changed my mind and im going to go with 2 12" or 10". I went to Tweeter today and they didnt have the Type Rs, they had Type E and S. I was very impressed with the Type Es, for the price they seem really good. What do you guys think about them.
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go with type r's for sure.
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spend the extra 30 dollars or so and go with type Rs....
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yes just get the R's
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Okay, I will go with the Rs then. I was just heard the Es and was very impressed but the Rs arent much more. Anyone have any opinions on two 10"s or two 12"s? Im trying to decide and im not sure what I want. I was leaning toward 10"s because I want the bass to be clean but will the 10"s be able to hit hard enough?
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cleanliness is such a misconception. size only compromises sound if your product is a pos. if it's a good sub, a couple 8's won't sound any different than a fifteen... by sound different i mean "lagging" or any of that bs people claim. a fifteen doesn't go any lower either, just depends on how much physical air you're moving. are you going sealed or ported? if sealed, i'd actually get 3 10's or 2 12's...but that's just me
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very simple... sealed box qtc. i had 2 10's in a qtc of .58, hit the lows like no other, hit the upper bass like crap. my shivas: qtc.91, hit the higer bass so much it hurt, the low notes were just decent. so the 10's were hitting lower, but the 12's were hitting higher notes. therefore, box size plays a bigger role than subwoofer diameter.
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type E and S are entry level alpine products. btw craig how the hell did your run 460 rms to it? i thought it could only handle 300?
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well if you knew how to set gains you can do anything. technically you could run 1500 watts rms to one type r if you set the gains right, which would be about .0025% of the way up (exaggeration). however, that would be a complete waste of an amp. anyway, i would not throw more than about 400 to each type r because im not a fan of the coils.
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i wanna hear the new ones already if theyre different
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eh, i care more about the new magnums coming out.
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