What's the difference in placing the subs towards the seats and towards the tail lights?

Here's how mine is setup.

Thanks!

 

facing the seats will generally give you tighter bass response, and more boom when faced the tail lights. give each position a try, and see which you like best

 

Thanks Fosgate Fan.

I know this is a stupid question but what does tighter bass mean? Does it mean that you feel it more?

 

yeah, kind of like the whack of a kickdrum.

 

I think that is what I was hoping to get. I want it to feel like something is pounding in my heart. Will face the sub towards the seat tomorrow morning!

Thanks again!

Love this site!

Awesome site & people!

 

id also try ever angle i could with that setup... its a small box and id move it to within 1 foot of the rear fo the trunk, id turn it sideways, tuck it in a corner by the tailights, etc.

 

Just tried facing the subs towards the seat and man, does it sound bad. Not only does it loose a lot of bass but sounds dampened. Well, I'm going to stick with the subs facing away from the seats, sound a lot better.

My next step is to look for a good ported box for the 12" Solo-Barics.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

fold the seats down. what are you looking for? more spl or sq, or both?

 

the sound was really that bad? i remember it was very tight when i had my tens facing the seat.

 

with the sub facing away you have reflected sound coming into play. with the front you have nothing adding to the wave, just direct output. try facing the sub up into the rear deck (Will load the woofer as well adn give some output difference) then angle toward the shock towers.

fosgate you have to figure that in doing forward usually the woofers are plated in and secured forcing the air forward. theres a good write up in last monts ca&e

 

I was thinking about putting a couple 12's in a bandpass box facing into the drivers compartment with the seats down would I get more bass from a bandpass box facing into the drivers conpartment or just have a regular box and the subs face back?

 

Do you mean put the sub on it's back and face the sub towards the right or left shock tower? Hmmm??? Interesting! I'll give it a try tomorrow and let you guys know how it sounds.

Nah, I'd rather leave the seats up. It's too much trouble to put it down and put them back up after I park. Plus, I don't want people knowing that I have a system in the car. Btw, what does spl and sq stand for?

Thanks!

Surprisingly, it did sound bad. I guess cause it was facing the seats and the soundwaves have nowhere to travel.

 

sq= sound quality
spl=sound pressure level

i concur with your reason not to put the seat down, however if you want that much bass people will hear you regardless if your windows are up or down.

 

idealy, you want all of your woofers facing the trunk lid. for optimum response, they should be placed from 12" - 18" away from the lid. i keep mine facing further away becuase my box is much bigger than yours, and i still want to be able to get to my spare if i need to. seeing as yours is much smaller, i would suggest you mabye try placing it on the passanger side of the trunk, about 12" away from the trunklid. i would imagine having it fire in the corner would give you as much deflection as you could achieve. as far as getting a bandpass box, i wouldnt recomend it to begin with, but it shouldnt matter what way you face the woofers. in a bandpass, the speakers are fired into a plexi-glass encloser (typically), and the actual sound you hear comes from the ports on the top of the box. there are many different types, and variations of enclosures, but unless your not planning on spending a few thousand dollars into your stereo system, i would suggest you just stay with a regular sealed, or ported enclosure.

just to add, you dont want to hear the music coming directly from the speakers. you want to hear the bass after it has been deflected off another part of the car. thats why it didnt sound good when you had it facing the seats. if you want to hear about a few other options as far as enclosures, i can tell you about a few variations that you might like.

 

for optimum sound, you want the bass to be coming from 7-10 feet away, in big suv's facing forwards is better, but in most cars towards the trunk is best, the reflection will usually put it around 7-10 feet.

 

can't wait till my 12's come in. I'm gonna try every little position. i really wish i had a hatch, this would be so much easier.

 

^^ what are you getting?

 

2 re 12's i've never payed so little on a PAIR of subs hahaha should be interesting to see how they do

 

port em!!!

 

lol, I'm trying ported, sealed, and IB. I don't need it crazy loud like i used to.

 

*cough* ported *cough*

 

ported is gay



i still havent gotten the hu as yet becasue my boy didnt buy it so i am sending it in, so i still dont really have the full use of my sub

 

I have a single 15 in a ported box and just for fun I moved it around so that the woofer and port was firing in different directions. I normally have it firing upward toward the back dash/top of the trunklid. I moved it so that it fired towards the rear and towards the front and I couldn't tell a difference in the sound either time. I put it back how it was in the first place.

 

If you suffocate the woofer output suffers. a rule is to allow the woofer to be loaded so the suspension works with nothing on the front the motor structure ONLY has to react to control the cone. with some amount of loading (Firing into something) the cone is somewhat controlled by that (Look into the idea of loading boards)

 

dependent on the size of woofer. a 15 has approximately a 64 foot wide wave so the farther the wave travels the closer you are to the optimum sweet spot of your sound.

if the woofers are in a ported enclosure and all you are looking at PURE OUTPUT then this is so. If looking for a standard street system fire it to the rear. firing forward opens the can of worms that contains
-PORT NOISE
-Mechanical Noise


two things that are easily masked by not directly facing the woofer into the compartment... i think...

 

you won't get port noise if the box was properly designed.

 

true, but if you notice it says opens the can of worms. there are all kinds of tricks around that such as rolled flanges if it is a cardboard tube port, or you can router the edges of the port round, etc, so there are ways around it if he does experience it, that is still a possibile problem.

 

Just picked up a 12" ported enclosure today. Will install it tomorrow and take pics and let you guys know if it sounds better than the sealed.

Hope it will be worth the $70 that I paid for it. lol!

 

hope you'll like the new box, i love mine! (though it wasn't a prefab)

 

Hey guys! Thanks for the advice on going with the ported enclosure, it sounds so... much better. Now this is the sound that I was looking for!

Check out the pics. Too bad the box is too big for me to fit it closer to the seats. The factory sub is too low for the new box to fit snuggly in the back but who cares, it sounds GREAT!!!

Thanks again guys!

 

glad you like it! im sure by having the sub closer to the tailights helped also.

 

nice box, how big is it? internal volume?

 

not really sure how big it is. i'll measure it tomorrow and let you know and as for the internal volume, i have no idea what that is. lol!

 

sorry but i cant stop bragging about it

 

what's there to brag about?

 

^^^^ lol. owned!

 

hows facing the subwoofer downward into the floor? Ill be attempting an inverted setup ported also.

 

guess it won't sound as good. you would want to have some airspace between the cone and whatever the bass is hitting off of.

 

Like every damn surface in your car.


My 3 8"s produce much more lower end bass response facing the rear of the car.

 

i'm sure going ported helped a bit