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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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hey SlickRivk, ned to ask you a question....

I have hte cdt's all around, and you told me some amp to get in my last thread.. i forgot, but can yo recomend any amps that would push my highs better??? also if i amp them them will I notice a difference in clarity and loudness over running off my 50x4 HU?? Thanks man..
Old Mar 12, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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haha you are allowed to use the pm system. anyway you will love the increase in loudness and especially midbass with an amp.
http://www.cardomain.com/item/KIC04KX2004
this is a solid amp for the price. you can get a 2 channel amp and run it in 2 ohm stereo and run all 6 speakers as another option. also do you want to amp the cl6x coaxes also? if not go with the 2 channel amp.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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by all 6 speakers...he counts components as 4 speakers, he confuses a lot of people saying this.

I dont know how anyone lives without amped mids/highs

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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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haha you are allowed to use the pm system. anyway you will love the increase in loudness and especially midbass with an amp.
http://www.cardomain.com/item/KIC04KX2004
this is a solid amp for the price. you can get a 2 channel amp and run it in 2 ohm stereo and run all 6 speakers as another option. also do you want to amp the cl6x coaxes also? if not go with the 2 channel amp.
well what if i ran my components off that amp and ran the coaxials in the rear off my 50x4 alpine HU??
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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If you buy a 4 channel amp theres no reason not to power all your speakers off of it. If you buy a 2 channel amp, you can either do it like you just said, and be able to fade/balance all your speakers correctly, or run the fronts off one channel and the rears off another channel, but then youll lose your ability to fade front to rear.

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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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yeah i ehar ya i got cdt bit i know if i get a 4 channel amp they will sound better then now off my hu power
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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Your HU is probably putting out only 15-17 watts per channel. You don't need much volume from rear fill (the rear fill should be about 25% as loud as the front, for best results), so getting a 4-channel amp would really be a waste. You should get a 2-channel amp to power the fronts and then power the rears with the HU. You would still have fading capability this way, too.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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well what if i ran my components off that amp and ran the coaxials in the rear off my 50x4 alpine HU??
Micah95GLE: I was planning to do something similar to that. I'm just hoping that I will notice a real difference in overall crispness, clarity, and volume with just my components amped..
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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i have fading capabilities with my 4 channel through my headunit. well if you got a 300watt 4 channel, i think itll power them pretty nicely, speakers dont need to be ran at max all the time...
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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i have a 4 channel by alpine MRP-F240
50x4 watts rms 360 watts max
i have full power to fade front back left and right.
and i love it
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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im still undecided if i like my rears amped...they get damn loud but this makes them somewhat audible at times from the front. anyway, i like the 2 channel amp running all the speakers inside because it drops the impedence to 2 ohms and with an unregulated power supply you can get alot more power.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
i like the 2 channel amp running all the speakers inside because it drops the impedence to 2 ohms and with an unregulated power supply you can get alot more power.
But you lose control of volume level for each speaker, as well as distortion increasing and damping factor decreasing, resulting in reduced sound quality. Also, amps never exactly double their power when halving the load, so you will lose power compared to running the 2 pairs of speakers with separate amp channels at 4 ohms, with a given wattage per channel.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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i cant agree with that statement. nothing in car audio is absolute, you can gain power when dropping impedence loads such as in my kicker amp because the power supply is unregulated. i do not believe you will lose power and audible distortion will not be noticed. you do lose control over each speaker which has been stated already.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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i don't really agree about the whole thing about 4 ch amps being bad and increasing distortion with lower impedence. people who compete in SQ contests use multi-channel amps in their setup. it really depends on the amps themselves. you can't really compare a Boss amp to a thousand dollar Boston Acoustics amp.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
you can gain power when dropping impedence loads such as in my kicker amp because the power supply is unregulated.
The unregulated power supply doesn't care about the ohm load. What makes more power from an unregulated power supply is more input voltage.

An amp that makes 50 watts per channel at 4 ohms will always make less than 100 watts per channel at 2 ohms. Therefore, 2 channels at 4 ohms will have a greater output than 1 channel at 2 ohms, for a given amp.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
i don't really agree about the whole thing about 4 ch amps being bad
Who said a 4-channel amp is bad?
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Micah95GLE
so getting a 4-channel amp would really be a waste.
thought that was what you implied
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
thought that was what you implied
It would be a waste in that the rears don't need nearly as much power as the fronts for good sound. I didn't say 4-channel amps are bad.
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