Sound System...Need Help
05-25-2005, 05:15 AM
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Sound System...Need Help
Hey, so far i have :
(1) 4 Channel Kicker's Amp
(2)Voodoo Capacitors
and thats basically it lol. I wanted (1)amp for bass,(1)amp for the tweeters, and (1) amp for the hi's/lo's. So that would be 3 amps.. Now the question is should i Get (2)1 channel amps,(2) 2 channel amps, or keep going with (2)4 channel amps? Because im going with kickers all the way, and i want to make sure i get the right stuff. Thanks for the help.
(1) 4 Channel Kicker's Amp
(2)Voodoo Capacitors
and thats basically it lol. I wanted (1)amp for bass,(1)amp for the tweeters, and (1) amp for the hi's/lo's. So that would be 3 amps.. Now the question is should i Get (2)1 channel amps,(2) 2 channel amps, or keep going with (2)4 channel amps? Because im going with kickers all the way, and i want to make sure i get the right stuff. Thanks for the help.
05-25-2005, 08:16 AM
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one, lose the caps, they won't do much besides putting additional strain on your electrical system.
why not just get some coaxils for the rear and a set of components for the fronts? then use your kicker 4 ch amp to power them?
why not just get some coaxils for the rear and a set of components for the fronts? then use your kicker 4 ch amp to power them?
05-25-2005, 09:49 AM
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Why do you only want to run Kicker? If anything, you are going to need:
- 1 X 2-Channel Amp for front midbass
- 1 x 2-Channel Amp for tweeters...which will sounds sweet as hell, btw, running them activley
- 1 x 1-Mono Amp for Sub
- Run the rearfill coaxes off of the HU amp
- Lose the cap
No sense in buying 4 channel amps if you want to run this way since you will be setting your crossover frequencies differently for the mids and tweets.
- 1 X 2-Channel Amp for front midbass
- 1 x 2-Channel Amp for tweeters...which will sounds sweet as hell, btw, running them activley
- 1 x 1-Mono Amp for Sub
- Run the rearfill coaxes off of the HU amp
- Lose the cap
No sense in buying 4 channel amps if you want to run this way since you will be setting your crossover frequencies differently for the mids and tweets.
05-25-2005, 11:31 AM
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yeh, you don't need caps.
You can run a 4 ch for the front highs/mids, since most 4 ch amps have two sets of RCA inputs, one for each pair of channels. Every Kicker 4 ch amp Crutchfield sells has 2 sets of RCA inputs, I'd assume any other kicker 4 ch amps are the same way..I'd run my mids off of ch 1 &2, highs off of 3&4, rear fill off the headunit, and get a mono amp for the subs..
You can run a 4 ch for the front highs/mids, since most 4 ch amps have two sets of RCA inputs, one for each pair of channels. Every Kicker 4 ch amp Crutchfield sells has 2 sets of RCA inputs, I'd assume any other kicker 4 ch amps are the same way..I'd run my mids off of ch 1 &2, highs off of 3&4, rear fill off the headunit, and get a mono amp for the subs..
05-25-2005, 11:38 AM
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lol a seperate amp for your tweeters haha. thats just dumb. Get a 4 channel and get some component speakers with crossovers.then get a mono block or stereo ampplifier depending on what ohm load you want to run for the sub. Uh you could probally use atleast 1 of the 2 caps might as well use it since you have it.
05-25-2005, 12:01 PM
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no sir, its dumb to assume using an amp for your tweets is dumb. amping your tweets and mids separately gives you FULL control over the volume of each, as well as full control over the frequencies you want each to handle. You're much better off using components and ditching the included xover, and using a 3 way active xover such as Kicker's KX3. I believe even Don uses one of these 
The kx3 lets you control the frequencies going to the amps, which is more efficient than controlling the freqs going from the amp to the speakers with an inline xover like what is included with components. You set it up so that the front output goes to the amp or set of channels your tweets are being driven by, and the rear output goes to the front midrange (midbass) set. You can probably just run RCAs from the sub output on your headunit to the amp you drive your sub(s) with. Waiting for Don to chime in here and see if I'm wrong or not.
The kx3 lets you control the frequencies going to the amps, which is more efficient than controlling the freqs going from the amp to the speakers with an inline xover like what is included with components. You set it up so that the front output goes to the amp or set of channels your tweets are being driven by, and the rear output goes to the front midrange (midbass) set. You can probably just run RCAs from the sub output on your headunit to the amp you drive your sub(s) with. Waiting for Don to chime in here and see if I'm wrong or not.
05-25-2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DcMaN
lol a seperate amp for your tweeters haha. thats just dumb. Get a 4 channel and get some component speakers with crossovers.then get a mono block or stereo ampplifier depending on what ohm load you want to run for the sub. Uh you could probally use atleast 1 of the 2 caps might as well use it since you have it.
05-25-2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Ice
no sir, its dumb to assume using an amp for your tweets is dumb. amping your tweets and mids separately gives you FULL control over the volume of each, as well as full control over the frequencies you want each to handle. You're much better off using components and ditching the included xover, and using a 3 way active xover such as Kicker's KX3. I believe even Don uses one of these
The kx3 lets you control the frequencies going to the amps, which is more efficient than controlling the freqs going from the amp to the speakers with an inline xover like what is included with components. You set it up so that the front output goes to the amp or set of channels your tweets are being driven by, and the rear output goes to the front midrange (midbass) set. You can probably just run RCAs from the sub output on your headunit to the amp you drive your sub(s) with. Waiting for Don to chime in here and see if I'm wrong or not.
The kx3 lets you control the frequencies going to the amps, which is more efficient than controlling the freqs going from the amp to the speakers with an inline xover like what is included with components. You set it up so that the front output goes to the amp or set of channels your tweets are being driven by, and the rear output goes to the front midrange (midbass) set. You can probably just run RCAs from the sub output on your headunit to the amp you drive your sub(s) with. Waiting for Don to chime in here and see if I'm wrong or not.
I did run it until I got the Arc DXE.
I will keep my mouth shut about this one.
05-25-2005, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I did run it until I got the Arc DXE.
05-25-2005, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Ice
no sir, its dumb to assume using an amp for your tweets is dumb. amping your tweets and mids separately gives you FULL control over the volume of each, as well as full control over the frequencies you want each to handle. You're much better off using components and ditching the included xover, and using a 3 way active xover such as Kicker's KX3. I believe even Don uses one of these
The kx3 lets you control the frequencies going to the amps, which is more efficient than controlling the freqs going from the amp to the speakers with an inline xover like what is included with components. You set it up so that the front output goes to the amp or set of channels your tweets are being driven by, and the rear output goes to the front midrange (midbass) set. You can probably just run RCAs from the sub output on your headunit to the amp you drive your sub(s) with. Waiting for Don to chime in here and see if I'm wrong or not.
The kx3 lets you control the frequencies going to the amps, which is more efficient than controlling the freqs going from the amp to the speakers with an inline xover like what is included with components. You set it up so that the front output goes to the amp or set of channels your tweets are being driven by, and the rear output goes to the front midrange (midbass) set. You can probably just run RCAs from the sub output on your headunit to the amp you drive your sub(s) with. Waiting for Don to chime in here and see if I'm wrong or not.
my buddy did this...it sounds so clean. if i had the money and space, i'd definitely do it this way. but if you already have a 4 channel amp, you might as well use it.
05-26-2005, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Golden Ice
I thought I remembered seeing one in your setup somwhere, just wasn't sure how old the pic was..Did ya have any quality complaints with the kicker? I've not heard anything bad about em yet, but I live in a town where people build SQ setups around comp VRs...
05-26-2005, 10:43 AM
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sorry i ddint word it right what i meant to say was why bother buying a seperate amp for your tweeters. Alot of tweeters can handle 75+ RMs but i mean to spend 200-300$ on the tweeters itself would be IMO a waste when you have a 4 channel already and you could easly just by a decent set of compnonent speakers. It would be kinda pointless to have a 4 channel not being completely used of course unless you were to bridge it and give 2 speakers more power but you couldve just gotten a 2 channel for that you know. I apologize for for not explaining my self right.
05-26-2005, 10:48 AM
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Then I guess in Your terms, I like to waste money. Being that I have my 4 channel running my tweets and mids seperately Active. Then another amp for my rears. I would never again run passives.
Bridging an amp, especially on highs is only going to end up lagging the primary factors of having a higher end amp running your components.
Bridging an amp, especially on highs is only going to end up lagging the primary factors of having a higher end amp running your components.
05-26-2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Just dumb??? Obviously youve never ran a system actively. Its ok, your still young and youll learn....
I'm no vet by any means either, but [you] have yet to hear system run in this manner. 
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