I am going to buy a system to put in my max and was wondering which setup would be better.

 

i heard 1 13.5 in 2.4cubes tuned to 29hz off a 1000/1 in a 4th gen...very similar output to my setup when i had my seats down. i say go wit hthe one 13.

 

Thanks for the imput, what was ur setup?

 

avalanche 15 ported at 35hz in about 3.6 cubes with 600 watts rms in a 5th gen.

 

Better for what?

Tony

 

I would say the 13W7 on the 1000/1. Although 2 12W6v2's n the right ported box would probably get a little louder than the single 13W7.

 

Save money get the Phoenix Gold TITANIUM 12D ELITE (1200 watts rms) sounds just a good as JL they are made for sound quality and SPL

 

Well there r plenty of subs that r as good , if not better, for cheaper, but he wanted us to pick b/t the 2. But the W7's r awesome subs, and if you've got the money to spend on them I'm not gonna tell ya to get anything else.

 

There's 2 old Image Dynamics IDW 15's on ebay right now ...

Now THOSE are subs.

 

Anyone can suggest different subs to use instead of JLs. I said JL because they are more heard than others. So any input would be helpful.

 

Ascendant audio avalanche 12 or 15...one sub is all you need.

 

I guess what I want is bass more than anything.

Chris

 

You can say what you want but the W7 is easily the best series if not top 2 or 3 series on the market. The Image Dynamics subs are good but honestly...they can't be mentioned with the W7's...

 

Honestly, you can't go wrong with a TON of subs out there. One thing to remember about brand names...people tend to associate them with cost and bling. The W7 is a great sub, but it's also greatly overpriced. It's built very well and puts out gobs of bass, but so do a lot of others for less money. People have mentioned Image Dynamics, who makes great subs too. But like JL, they make different lines that all perform differently. ID's top of the line model is the IDMAX, which I would put up any day against the W7. If I were you I would keep researching, becuase there are so many different subs out there. Remember...I don't care what brand or model you use, the major difference in sound will be in the installation, not the brand! Make a sturdy box, mount it well, give it plenty of power, and I truly believe you won't be disapointed in any of the reccomendations people have been posting here.

Tony

 

A 15" RE XXX IMO, and I'm sure ppl will agree, would blow a W7 away. And It would be a couple hundred less than the 13.5W7. I like JL subs very clean & loud, but I agree with everyone else saying that they're over-priced.

 

i agree with everything except blowing a dub7 away. no single sub out there can blow away a 13.5w7 in getting loud and sounding good.

 

Funny you say that, being that the W7 IS an ID sub.

 

^I had forgot about that ^

 

You want LOUD *** BASS? get the new Kicker Solo X 18" 5000 watts rms!!
Thats just ridiculous.

But if you just want a lot of bass and arent to worried about SQ I would get a Kicker Solobaric l5 or l7.

 

if you have the money and is determined to get the W7, then by all means get it. it's a nice sub, but way overpriced. it will satisfy your bass hunger. i'm in the market for a new sub as well (trying to sell my brahma), and i've narrowed it down to either the 15" avalanche, or the 15" rl-p from sound splinter. both are damn good subs and the prices on those two are pretty good.

 

ygpm Ascendant...

 

The W7s are made by Image Dynamics????

Tony

 

Don i thought JL was made locally to my house in miramar...and ID had their own buildhouse in Ca???

 

My other is a Memphis M3Mojo 12" with the Memphis MC1100D amp.

 

For those that Didnt know....

The "W7" was originally built by ID. They didnt have the funds to patent and mass produce it at the time, so JL stepped in a bought the rights. The current W6v2 was supposed to be their W7, since buying the rights for the actual W7, JL just made their original plans into a v2.

 

yes their w7 stuff is built inhouse.... but as Don said....the 'first' sub that was later named the dub7 was not 'born' there....

 

i'd rather have two 12w6v2s than one thirteen seven

 

Memphis Audio was another choice I was considering for my setup. Thanks.

 

I just got my truck back today... got 4 M-Class 12"s. I'll have pics tomorrow.

 

I really don't like kicker, for what reasons I don't know, but I will also look into it. I haven't heard anything from kicker, but I wouldn't mind having 18s in the trunk as long as the bass comes with the size. Thanks.

 

Sweet. I can't wait to see them.

 

The W7 isn't made by Image Dynamics. Say what you want about the history and everything but it's the flagship JL sub and it's one of the best sound quality subs on the market.

 

Man ... the sheeple just follow JL around waving a company flag. It still amazes me.

 

Yea umm, sorry but your Wrong. What I state is FACT, what you state is OPINION, which holds more water?

 

"The Don"

 

Pics are up of my system. I can't wait to get the video clip and put it up on realmofexcursion.com I didn't see any of the setups using the M-Class. Just the PR and M3.

 

Since you are stating "fact" you should have no problem showing proof of this fact. Something like a technical drawing, picture of a prototype, copy of the documentation of a financial transaction between JL and ID, an article that chronicles ID's "super sub". Anything besides heresay would do.

You show me that and I will acknowledge that you are correct. Man, you better have more than "what I state is FACT" to back a statement like that.


Keep in mind I think JL and ID both make very good products so I am not questioning wheter or not ID makes a good sub...hell I have an old IDQ in my garage now that was a great sub.

And FWIW a quick timeline for you...

The W6v2 was developed AFTER the W7. The W6v2 uses several of the 7 patents from the W7. One of them being DMA which is a way of analyzing how a speaker behaves while being played. JL developed the system while developing the W7 because up until that time the most common way to analyze speakers was through their thiele-small properties. However since these paramaters change while a speaker moves they are not totally accurate. If you don't believe this, take any speaker, connect a multi meter and watch how impedance changes while you push the speaker in and out. The DMA helps the engineer see how a speaker behaves over the entire excursion of the speaker so it can be built to maintian its liniarity.

For you techno geeks:
http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/W7_DMA.html

Even if ID had some wicked *** skunk-works style woofer they were working on that they never released that does not make it the W7...that is unless you can prove that JL actually bought plans, drawings, and or patents from ID.

Yes, I realize this is my first post so most of you will instantly dis-credit it, but after someone showed me this thread I had to say something.

One last piece of car audio wisdom...there is very rarely a best anything.


And to the original question (sorry fro thread hi-jacking) 2 12w6v2s will be louder than the single 13w7 because they will be moving a lot more air. And if you have enough room to port the w6s look out because that will get FREAKING LOUD!!

 

Considering it was never supposed to be public knowledge anyone would be hardpressed to find WRIITEN proof. Although if he was up to it and felt like doing me the favor how about a call from my JL rep? Would that suit your needs??

Furthermore, your status of NEWB, means I need to prove nothing to you, as most people on here know what I state is factual, as well as a few of them knowing the situation with the transaction themselves.

 

Yes, have your JL rep call me...that would suit my needs. PM me or e-mail me and I will give you the information he can reach me at. Or tell me which rep firm he works for, his name I will call him myself

I don't care what my "status" is here...that is a really strong statement to make on the basis that you know a guy who knows a guy.

 

Pearl96Max