Ok I'm pretty new to the whole audio stuff. So maybe you guys can help me out.
Basically money isn't an issue just nothing over $2000 to invest in the Subwoofer setup only.

Ok The head unit I'll prob use a Pioneer EQ and a touch screen TV Audio.

Now what I'm looking for is really really deep bass, something like 10Hz-33Hz I think and some mind blowing 110 db or better sounds that will literally blow your eardrums

I was thinking of Two W7's being pushed by I have no idea, with caps and a yellow top battery.

Why do people always refer to the excursion of a woofer?

Thanx guys any help is apreciated...

 

for spl in the specific areas of frequency you want...go with 18" subs for optimum output. however, they will not fit easily. IMO I would run 2 15" sealed in about 4.5 cubes if you can fit it. there are plenty of subs from XXX's, the new Brahma's, the new ascendant auido stuff, and for Gordon...RLP's. also, 10hz at a high volume is not easily achieved NOR heard by the human ear and no music will ever dip that low. hence, focus more on around 30hz and up for car audio...unless you plan on watching movies at full tilt.

 

Flatlines FTW.

Case closed

 

10 hz is REAL LOW...well below inaudable.

33hz is pretty low for a sub to be lowpassed at (especially without A LOT of concern for strong midbass in the front stage).... Have you listened to a 33 hz test tone to hear how low that actually is?

Oh...110 db aint all that loud for bass....though hitting 110 db at anywhere around 15-25 hz is an accomplishment.

2G is A LOT for a sub setup. Have you considered a complete system (still with plenty of bass) for that amount of money? Your plan now sounds like a system that will have lots of bass, but not much as far as music is concerned. It's cool if thats what you want. Just wanted to throw out there that for that amount of money you could be concerned about a lot more than bass.

Set aside money for dampening, and install as well as crap you may not be thinking of like wiring.....

W7's are real nice woofers, but VERY overpriced IMO, specially just for bass.

People talk about excursion because speakers move air. Subs need to move a lot of air to get loud....so the more the cone can move (as well as the bigger it is), the louder it can get.

Forget the caps.

After that, theres plenty of nice subs and speakers out there that would suit your needs. I think sometimes people are too quick to worry about "which subs/speakers and amps" and less about the install that will make it sound good.

 

i know fo sho they do not come in 18", but do they come in 15" versions? I did not recommend them because I do not think they come that big.

 

A nice IB setup should go really low but it won't get very loud.

 

Bigger isnt always better Peckerwood.

The FLs are extremely nice, although more SQ orientated with a Very good potential to get loud. Of course theres still others options.

 

I agree completely...hence I keep my sub smaller than my rims. for his application (which is a lil odd to say) he needs mucho cone area.

 

Going by some of his requests, Im not exactly sure he even knows what he wants..... 10Hz???

 

yeah maybe he has a passion for a certain movie that could POSSIBLY go that low? I dunno. if he tried to design a system with his description, I would not want to listen to it.

 

I think he just wants to FEEL it. LoL

 

sounds like a demand Avi would ask for...

 

LMAO





10 carrots

 

werd i need to feeli it

 

Ill let ya feel my foot in your a$$.

 

I don't think that W7's would really fit the bill in this situation.

How about some of the new stereo integrity Magnum D2's off a 2500watt RMS amp of your choice, maybe sealed in 5.5-6 cubic feet. That would be fun

 

feel the bass eh? get a pair of RL-s and feed them assload of power in a ported box. you'll definately feel them. this guy in town did a 135 dB @ 28 hz

 

My best Friend drives an Expedition with a wall of 4 18"s Pushed by over 4000 watts. That thing hits so hard it's not even funny. With the bass up it takes the air out of your breath. He's hit up to 155 db's and won a couple of competitions. So he's the one that's going to do the whole install I'm not worried about that.

To make this more clear I wanted to know what subs are out now that can hit real hard with the best, something like 12" to 15" nothing bigger than that.
I need them to be able to withstand hard hitting bass and really low bass.

This is what my Friend suggest. What do you guys think of Three Thunder950012" 500-1000 watts RMS 1000
Or Three SledgeHammer T9500 (T9515X2D) Pushed by Two TA92001 Class D Mono Amps


I never heard of integrity Magnum D2 are they better than MTX?

I'm going to the the shop to hear the thunderseries and sledgehammer.

 

Yes sir I want it to HIt really Hard and give Low bass. I was guessing using the Hz as an example. What do I know....

 

If I use the TA92001 it's rated at 14v am I going to need an extra alternator?

 

ever look into resonant engineering MT's?

 

Rl-s are designed for HT apps so yeah they will hit low as a muthafo

 

no, its impossible to have two alternators. do you mean a high output alternator? you won't need that either.

all amps are rated at 14 or 14.4 volts for their birth sheet.

 

only bad thing is that they have **** poor efficiency. iirc it's only 80 dB at 1w/1m

 

The magnum d2 would be your best bet IMO. Those things sound amazing and get insanely loud with the right amp. Personally I would invest in a good amp as well, something from MMATS, Zapco, USAmps...can get quite pricey.

 

MTX should not be spoken in the same sentence as a Magnum D2. I would take a D2 over a W7 any day. Google SI Magnum D2 and see what other think of it. If you wanna go MTX that's fine but MTX is not high end car audio and if thats what you're looking for then forget about MTX.

 

Excuse me?

Although stereo intergrity made an awesome woofer there is no need to downplay mtx. Where else can you get a 300 lb sub that moves less air than the equal sum total weight of RE MTS, and still costs more? You need to get it right.

my 1501d
owns Joo

 

12 funky pups...

 

some cheap pyle subs actually can move a bigass amount of air and won't explode like pups

 

Ok I just came from cartek here in S.Fl. Listened to some of the MTX subs and they sound really good not bad but not as hard as I expected it would. I mentioned Integrity speakers and they said "yeah those are good speakers too"

So I got home searched for Integrity Magnum D2's. I just got off the phone after 30 min with Nick and I think I'm convinced. He claims that one D2 12" will hit mid 130db's to low 140db's. The guy was so cool he was telling me all kinds of stories. I also did a search on these Integrity's and theirs allot of feedback from allot of forums on how good they are.

Nick's setup
2 12" D2's
His first choice to push them were the Incriminator IA20.1 series amplifier and a few others.

What do you guys think? What should I push them with?

 

one respectable 12" sub with a good box can fart and hit 130's. SI subs are good and 2 12" SI subs ported will be loud. with 2 12's ported you will be easily into the mids 140's with good amps and a decent box. for all out spl with sq i still take XXX's because they can handle 1.5k watts daily.

 

What are the Top 5 High End subs?

1 #1 SUB?
2
3
4
5

 

assuming budget is not a problem...depends on amount of trunk space lost, and how much power to each sub, and expected sound quality. you can port anything to 45hz and have it be loud 4 rap music but sound like A$$. new subs should be coming out because CES just happened so I cannot give my top 5 as of this second without seeing the new stuff. but previous stuff from RE, Adire Audio, Diamond Audio, SS, SI, and Ascendant audio are good. i have heard subs from each maker except sound splinter and Stereo Integrity.

 

kinda hard to name a top 5 since each person has a different opinion on the performance of each sub.

 

This is harder than I thaught, trying to choose one isn't easy.


RE?
SS?

 

RE = Resonant Engineering. www.reaudio.com
SS = Sound Splinter. www.soundsplinter.com

a note though, the SS are more geared towards SQ. They will get decently loud though, but I think for your application, they won't provide enough SPL for you.

 

I like RE SX's for good spl and decent SQ for a good price.

 

Someone who knows most of the subs should make a poll of
the top 5 or top 10 so that way my lazy azz can just search for those in the top list...

 

refer to post 34

 

Thanks guys for the help I really apreciate it...
One problem I don't know what this stuff means

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