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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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damn Shawn...didn't know you were this into cameras as well
They are owning the crap out of me right now.

Not a good hobby for a college kid (esp. one who is a sucker for toys.... owned )


The guy I bought the EF 28-135mm IS from let me play with his L glass (24-70mm F/2.8L and 70-200mm F/2.8L IS) and a 10-22mm. He does it for a living (20D with a 10D backup) and it was a very mean thing for him to do
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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BTW all the above pics are excellent, I dare not to try to guess which is which..
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Another question in regards to your above post of the lenses. The EF.S mounts are designed for the 350D and of course others, but the EF would or would not work with it?
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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Taking your advice into consideration, I think itll be the 350D FTW.

At the risk of sounding more idiotic than I already have with my lack of knowledge on cameras, how much of a difference does the add-on flash make? I mean in actuality is the built in flash "bad"? What is different?

na, it's not bad at all, but it can be kind of harsh at times. Also remember I'm speaking from a level much higher than just point and shoot photography. A hot flash really helps with illuminating everything and helps with harsh shadows. Everything just becomes smooth and natural. You can also really play with lighting a lot more with angles and stuff, bouncing off walls/etc.

Just forget I ever mentioned it (atleast for a few months ). Me = sucker for the toys
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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na, it's not bad at all, but it can be kind of harsh at times. Also remember I'm speaking from a level much higher than just point and shoot photography. A hot flash really helps with illuminating everything and helps with harsh shadows. Everything just becomes smooth and natural. You can also really play with lighting a lot more with angles and stuff, bouncing off walls/etc.

Just forget I ever mentioned it (atleast for a few months ). Me = sucker for the toys

For the time being Im sticking with just what comes with the camera. The built in flash and the lens. Although not up to par with you, itll suffice the wife for awhile and my A70 is pwned.

Dont worry, Im a sucker for toys as well. I always like to have things, depsite the fact I dont use em. I still have a Sony Clie I got about a year ago that I never used and need to sell, but it was cool to have at the time.

Now if we got into car audio/video/security I would run away with the "more money spent" trophy over you.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Although a tripod may be needed as well for family pics.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Another question in regards to your above post of the lenses. The EF.S mounts are designed for the 350D and of course others, but the EF would or would not work with it?
All EF lenses work on a EF-S mount
EF-S lenses do not work on a EF mount (unless you modify them, but there really isn't a point in doing that)



EF-S mounts = APS-C sensors = 300D, 350D, 20D, 30D
300D = Digital Rebel
350D = Digital Rebel XT
30D = updated 20D, really not that much has changed, kind of disappointing.

EF mounts would be
D30, D60, 10D (older models)
5D, 1D series



For what it's worth:
Canon 5D = $3200 ish, full frame camera, 12.8mp, full frame, no built in flash, full frame, etc lol.
Canon 1Ds Mark II = $7500 ish, full frame, uber fast, 16.7mp, full frame and uber fast, no built in flash, full frame, etc.

basically professional cameras, just fun to dream about
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Ahh gotcha, I was just a bit cloudy of what I can look at. May be just that Im tired...

I saw the 5D, then I saw the price tag and woke up
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
For the time being Im sticking with just what comes with the camera. The built in flash and the lens. Although not up to par with you, itll suffice the wife for awhile and my A70 is pwned. :-D

Dont worry, Im a sucker for toys as well. I always like to have things, depsite the fact I dont use em. I still have a Sony Clie I got about a year ago that I never used and need to sell, but it was cool to have at the time. :-D

Now if we got into car audio/video/security I would run away with the "more money spent" trophy over you. :king :

I really don't even have that much

Sorry, I was kind of getting a head of myself earlier. Buy the kit, take pictures until you're tired of it, then take more . And don't borrow other peoples stuff, because then you will want it, and that's bad heheheheh.

I'm really still just a n00b :hs :


Tripod, definately going to want. I just have a cheapy one (<$40 - Christmas present from my stepsisters). Also spend the $20 or whatever on a remote, you'll never have to set, run, and guess again . They have an infrared one, I think it's called the RC-1 ? I have never used or seen it. I have the RS-60E3 which is wired. It's nice for doing long exposure tripod shots and such, but wouldn't work well with family portraits because it only has a ~2' cord.

Also Compact Flash prices have dropped insanely

This one is uberfast, but probably wayyy overkill
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

I have the 1gb version of this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

I can get 115 shots in RAW mode on the 1gb card.

(RAW = 16bit, jpg = 8bit. RAW = oh so nice to work with .... adjusting white balance/etc. you'll see )
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Looks like Ill hopefully be stopping at the store today. Unfortunately I wont be able to play with it until after I give it to her. Has to be new and gift wrapped and all that..

Im glad it uses the CF as I have a few and itll still work with my A70.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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I have the Panasonic DMC-FZ5...pretty nice!
12X optical zoom
5MP
light weight.

here are some sample pics:

Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Truth of the matter is that unless you really "Blow up" the picture to critique it, most digital (SLR or other) are great at 4X6 print sizes.

Below is a link to a "full file" jpg (3.2MB)shot on my 20D with a 28-135 IS lens... It was shot at 1/30 sec and 400 ISO because it was "gloomy"... If you download it and click on "properties" it will tell you more information on the advanced tab...

http://instructional1.calstatela.edu...s/IMG_5321.JPG

For your budget... a Rebel XT with that above lens would be about 1K or so. the 17-85EF-s lense is great but you wouldn't be able to use it on a 1Ds if you ever got it.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Nice pic. I did end up with the 350D, just picked up a lil while ago.
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Good luck with the wifey
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Yea definately gonna need it
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Yea definately gonna need it
One thing you might try.... see if you shoot around 50mm (or the long end of the kit lens). If you do, you might consider picking up the Canon EF 50mm F/1.8 MK-II link. Not so much right off the bat, but if just take a look at your pictures after a month or two and see if you spend enough time around 50mm end to see if you would use it. The reason is it is a fast lens, and you can't really beat the price. I have a feeling you might use it more with portraits and stuff (probably spend a lot of time zoomed in on your kids/etc) and it performs really well indoors and really low light conditions.

Personally I don't have one because I don't really shoot around 50mm that much. The more I think about it though, It seems like a good idea because it could force me to shoot in a different way then I'm used to and just change things up.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Personally I don't have one because I don't really shoot around 50mm that much. The more I think about it though, It seems like a good idea because it could force me to shoot in a different way then I'm used to and just change things up.
haha, talking yourself into spending more money on your camera?
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ah damn, guess it's too late to chime in

i was gonna suggest the Canon SD550. pocketsized, also kickass picture quality. they're going for about ~400. but congrats on your purchase . it's a nice camera
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They are owning the crap out of me right now.

Not a good hobby for a college kid (esp. one who is a sucker for toys.... owned )


The guy I bought the EF 28-135mm IS from let me play with his L glass (24-70mm F/2.8L and 70-200mm F/2.8L IS) and a 10-22mm. He does it for a living (20D with a 10D backup) and it was a very mean thing for him to do
yeah, not a cheap hobby for college students

i personally got hooked when my friend let me mess with his 35mm EOS-1V with a canon 70-200 4L. that lense was sweet. super quick focus (hella lot faster than the kit lense's focus).
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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ah damn, guess it's too late to chime in

i was gonna suggest the Canon SD550. pocketsized, also kickass picture quality. they're going for about ~400. but congrats on your purchase . it's a nice camera

Its all good. Im happy with it and being an SLR was the most important part for me. AT least this way its always "upgradeable".
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Its all good. Im happy with it and being an SLR was the most important part for me. AT least this way its always "upgradeable".
so how did the wife absorb the news of the camera's pricetag?

just wait til she hears how much those lenses cost...
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she wont know til Tuesday (Valentines day gift). Which is of course the day after my bowling tournament.
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ah, god speed.

my friends couldn't believe the 20D's pricetag when i told them...and yet they find a 800 dollar purse PLUS a 300 dollar matching wallet an "ok" purchase?? women...
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The best part comes right after she opens it









you know, when Don steals it and hides so he can play with it in



$800 purse, I need friends like that, maybe they'll buy you a 1Ds Mark II


Originally Posted by D Love
haha, talking yourself into spending more money on your camera?
There's been atleast 5 times where I've went to buy it



but I still haven't




I hop on the 'it's so cheap' bandwagon and I know it would be fun to experiement with. Then I get to the add to cart button and I see a 70-200 F/4L in my head saying noes! that's my budget!



Originally Posted by AscendantMax
ah damn, guess it's too late to chime in :slant :

i was gonna suggest the Canon SD550. pocketsized, also kickass picture quality. they're going for about ~400. but congrats on your purchase :-D. it's a nice camera ;-)
A620 gets no love?
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but the SD550 looks so good...

my friend selling the 70-200 F/4L for $500...so tempted...

BUT rainbow germaniums > lense!
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It was sunny this "afternoon" (ie. when the sun was low)


so I went driving around trying to think of somewhere cool to take pictures, but I couldn't come up with much


Here's a golf course



I don't like walking around with my camera for some reason it always feels like I'm doing something wrong

Battery grip + lens hood = serious business!
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polarizer in use? nice shot
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Your picture just shot me back to the days of carvin down and growing up in the mountains of Vermont. Thanks
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polarizer in use? nice shot
no

Actually that really pissed me off. I have a polarizer but I forgot to bring my filter pack (I need a bigger bag)

I haven't even used the polarizer yet and today would have been a great day.


Thats straight up no filter, as shot AWB, used Bibble for a crop + resize.
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i got this canon backpack thingy. room for lenses and what not. not too bad for 75 bucks at bhphotovideo.com

you should get one
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Originally Posted by MrGone
The best part comes right after she opens it
when Don steals it and hides so he can play with it in

Best part for her, worst part for me. Ill be slowly getting killed.

Stealing it? Hmm tempting, if it wasnt for the kids...Id be all over that idea.
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Originally Posted by MrGone
It was sunny this "afternoon" (ie. when the sun was low)


so I went driving around trying to think of somewhere cool to take pictures, but I couldn't come up with much


Here's a golf course



I don't like walking around with my camera for some reason it always feels like I'm doing something wrong

Battery grip + lens hood = serious business!
VERY nice, me likes. I imagine I may be doin g alot of that walking around with a camera thing now...
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VERY nice, me likes. I imagine I may be doin g alot of that walking around with a camera thing now...
i hate walking around with my SLR, people often ask am i visiting the united states

wouldn't be as bad for you
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i hate walking around with my SLR, people often ask am i visiting the united states

wouldn't be as bad for you



So all those Asians that I see might actually live here?



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i hate walking around with my SLR, people often ask am i visiting the united states :squint :

wouldn't be as bad for you :-p


awwww

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i got this canon backpack thingy. room for lenses and what not. not too bad for 75 bucks at bhphotovideo.com

you should get one :-)
I can't find one for $75, this is the only backpack I could find and it's ~$50 but out of stock

I'm kind of going between these two
Tamrac 608

Tamrac 610

Tamrac 612

I know their big, call it wishful thinking (I can get the 610 and 612 cheaper other places
I have a pretty nice backpack (not a camera bag, but I can't wear two backpacks at once....well easily anyway). I think it would be handy for hikes and stuff though, but I'll have to wait on a backpack style.


My Dad keeps telling me I need to buy one of these. He has one on his old Minolta SLR, I think it'd be nice for protection and stuff, but I don't think I would really use it. Plus the price (why so $$$ ), and the 17-85mm won't work with it (that makes it really easy for me).
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I thought I did, do I have one from you?
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I can't find one for $75, this is the only backpack I could find and it's ~$50 but out of stock
dammit, the price went down. that's the same one i got.

Don we better see some pics soon

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