For someone who's not looking to get subwoofers, which rears would you say give decent mid-range bass? What rms to look for?

Thanks!
AnGe

 

IMHO....

Eclipse, Kenwood, MTX, Focal, a/d/s, JL Audio Evolution, Boston Acoustics, Polk Audio, Infinity Perfect.

 

Are you looking for component or coaxial? If you go coaxial, then I would look at Eclipse, JL Audio, Kicker, Polk, Alpine, Audiobahn, Boston Acoustics. If Component, it changes to a/d/s, Focal, Infinity Perfect, JL Audio Evolution Series.

 

Coaxil rears... didn't see Infinity carry 6.5" coaxils in their Perfect series. I have Alpine SPS-1629S (120W Peak/30W RMS). I would start by looking into Boston Acoustics...
PS- What db sensitivity to I look for? Is highter the db
better or the other way around?

Thanks!
AnGe

 

Higher db is better, with the same amp a speaker with higher db will sound louder. Its a measure of how good they are at converting the power to sound. Might want to check out the Kappas. CS

 

What's your pricerange? The best 6.5" speakers I've heard for midbass attack are the CDT Audio HD series. They are available in coaxial form as the HD-63 or just the midbass driver as the CDT-6.

 

I'm looking at $100-$150 price range. By the way, can I stay with my current speaker wiring setup?

Thanks!

 

Check eBay for a set of infinity Reference 6.5" Components. You can get them on a dutch auction for $112 plus $13 shipping brand new. I am going to pick these up myself. The list on them is $200. My girlfriend has the coaxial 6.5 Reference speakers and they sound really good. The Perfect series are $250 - $300. You should be okay with your current wiring unless you have BOSE. Its a good idea to power these speakers for much better claarity. Hope that helps.

 

Thanks DaBox
I have Alpine components in the front, they've performed up to my expectations. I'm looking to replace my rear speakers... 6.5" midrange bass drivers

AnGe

 

Oh, I'm sorry... In that case, install the woofers and mail me the tweeters? j/k. Good luck on your search.

 

MaxGurl...just get a good reliable speaker set, but if you really want killer midbass out of yous speakers, i would definately recommend investing some $ into sound deadening your entire rear deck. This will allow the speakers to play louder, lower and with less distortion.
You can see rear deck sound deadening on my website.

 

Thanks for the advice Sweet

 

I would ditch the idea of 6.5's for 8's. And deaden the deck/trunk. I have an 8 in each rear door($200 total), band-passed from 60-2000 Hz and it definitely made an improvement in the midbass response. At least ditch the idea of getting two or three way speakers. The rear drivers should provide fill only and the upper frequencies are not needed in back. They will only detract from the front soundstage.

 

I've got speaker wires already in place on my rear deck and I'd like to make use the pre-exsisting 6.5" (or technically 6.75") holes. You mentioned 8" speakers, did you modify your rear to make them fit?

AnGe

 

I have polks all the way around. Ex652a and the Ex572a. EX652a are the ones in the back. I think they run 150 peak. Don't know how much it is rms though. They're ok and they fit the oversized opening in the rear 6 3/4". I still can't believe those alpines only can take 30 watts rms though. I'm telling you Ange just get a small sub. It won't take up that much room.

BTW on my way home yesterday I remember you posting about the infinty basslink. Are you still considering that?

 

A little bit of modification was needed. Sorry it is a bit dark out so the picture is dark - except for where the flashlight is shining. As far as sensitivity goes a higher number means it will play louder with everything else being equal. But louder does not mean better so ignore the sensitivity numbers. They can be falsely labeled as well.

 

Did you take a look at the Bostons yet?

 

Take a look at maximadave's offer since he sells Eclipse.
Check out their 6.5" Coaxials.

 

I emailed MaximaDave for some suggestions from his inventory... I'll let you know once he writes me back.

Thanks Prinz!
PS- How's the meet planning going? Updates?
AnGe

 

The best midrange speakers, in order from best to worst, as determined by the 1999 USAC competition:
Focal
MB Quart
Kicker
Image Dynamics
Rockford Fosgate
Memphis
Orion
JL Audio
Diamond Audio
Dynaudio
Boston Acoustics
Eclipse
Phoenix Gold
A/D/S
Sound Stream
Infinity
Pioneer
Sony
Planet Audio
Alpine
MTX
Coustic
Kove
JBL
Clarion
OZ Audio
Lanzar
Polk
...I'm getting sick of typing, if it's not up there, you don't want it...

 

You can win in usac with any of these speakers simply if you have a great install. IMO it's 80% install and 20% equipment. That is why I recommend Maxgurl to just get a good reliable set of speakers, doesn't have to be some high $$$ speaker and install it properly with sound deadening, mdf baffle, etc.
Here's what i did.
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If you plan on using an Amplifier i say get the Boston Pro set up. So far they are the BEST that i have heard in any car. The stereo shop that i install for sells them the most out of Alpine,JL,Kenwood,Kicker,Clarion speakers. If you get the 3 way system you get a 6.5 driver with tweeter mounted above it and also a 4" midrange driver that you need to mount besides the 6.5. That means cutting another hole besides the existing hole you have Not to mention the crossover can allow you to power just the 6.5 woofer independantly from the 4" midrange and tweeter. They are the only separates that i have seen out there that allow this capability.

Retail is around $600 for the set

If you are using a decent cd/radio to power them i reccomed Kenwood Excelon or Alpine, 3way 6.5" coaxels. Both respond very well with low power.

Retail from $120-200 per set

 

kspett: That's such a useless listing. I've seen it before and really in today's market that listing is worthless being 2 years old. Many things can change in that span and in fact have.

For instance the Kicker fullrange speakers used in most of those installs from that timeframe would have been the Kicker Resolution which has gone though a complete redesign since year 2000. With fundamentally different materials of construction. Though I've been a fan of these drivers myself I must make notice that they are entirely different than the ones in 1999 compared to what's available today.

Another point in this regard is that this list is based on the numbers of competitors using the products listed NOT which products scored better or by how much.

Just wanted to point that out. 90% of that list are very good speakers and some would not even have registered a decent score which makes their placing on this list useless....

 

Sorry to put myself out to sound so 'particular' about my system but simply put, I'm looking for is midrange bass to support my exsisting Alpine components (powered by an amp ofcourse). I'm not looking to break the bank nor to shatter my surroundings. I just felt the rears I had (Alpine 120watt/30rms) were useless and had VERY little presence, even to 'back-fill' the cabin. I'm running my car without the rears and I can say that I don't miss those rears even one bit.
Prinz- I looked into Boston speakers...too much $$$
I think something like Audiobahn AN6000 6.5" Coaxials (94dB/100watt rms) should do well. $133 shipped.

AnGe

 

Ange a pair of CDT Audio CDT-6 midbass drivers are around $165 shipped for a pair and these will blow any other 6.5" speaker in midbass response. The next best speaker I've heard for midbass is from Focal or Dynaudio and these are easily double that price per pair.

 

By any chance, is your shop in NJ?

AnGe

 

Ampman Audio is located in Ocean Grove in South Jersey, I'm not located there, but you can call Kirk @ 732-988-4818 and discuss an order with him for the CDT-6 mids.

 

hi ange ur gonna have to bite the bullet and get a sub doesnt have to be a big one... the kind a mid u want u will notice ur missing something in the music.... just hang on and save up to some low end... i have no rear fill in my system dont miss it

 

Thanks for the tip Ray I'm looking at the Infinity Basslink 10" sub with self powered class d amp... the little thing does wonders.

Stephen- The shop in Ocean is about 1.5 hr drive from me. I'll try to head down there and check the demos out Bet. work and modding on wkends, it's tough to make the trip. But thanks for the info!

 

Unfortunately Ampman Audio doesn't have a storefront yet. It's an Online operation so there are no demo vehicles or auditioning room setups.

 

Thanks Stephen.
I went ahead and ordered the Infinity Basslink today. Will let yall kno how I like (or dis-like) it. I will delete this thread in efforts to free up whatever space I've taken up on Jamie's server(s).

Just want to thank you all for voicing your opinions and suggestions.
..until the next thread... take care yall

 

in my opinion i think kicker resolutions are the best bang for the buck i love mines there pretty good speakers for the price $129 pretty decent

well peace out
Daren

 

I just got a pair of the compression horn top of the line pioneer 6 1/2s. They sound pretty good for the price. Polks are great quality but the low end of the freq response is something like 70 Hz. Technically if you want the best bass response look at how low of a freq the speaker is rated at. If you have some extra money to spend, get a decent pair of seperates like MB quartz, or a/d/s. I would just get a small sub though. Im probably gonna put in a perfect 10 or an image dynamics 10. The sealed box volumes are less than a cubic foot so it wont rob u of your trunk space.

 

They are not too expensive and will give you the bass response you are looking for.

 

I have a 98 I30t and I'm not at all impressed with the BOSE system and I was looking into the pol/momo component system to replace the speakers in the front doors. Does anyone know about the polk/momo component systems? Also, does the fact that I have the bose system present any problems? I have heard some things but but I dont know exactly what problems it presents or what they are regarding. Could someone enlighten me? thanks.

 

Well for one thing you can't replace the Bose speakers with the Polk/Momo components, unless you also add external amplifiers. It will sound worse than stock since the Bose speakers are low impedance units. Your Bose amps will end up delivering lower power output to your new replacement speakers of about 25% of their original power since aftermarket speakers have a 4 Ohm impedance.

 

The Momo name is what's driving the product. Mmm... IMO- you can get better quality components for the money. Infinity Perfect, Alpine DDDrive components, MB-Quart, Boston Acoustics, Autobahn, and CanuckAMP's CDT... dollar for dollar easily surpasses Polk/Momo line...

AnGe

 

....and a/d/s, Diamond Audio, Focal, and the JL Audio Evolutions practically bury them. But that's just my opinion.

 

I've had top of the line Eclipse's and Boston's in previous cars. I'm getting the JL Evolution's Installed after i get back from vacation. Heard them at in action at Tweeter and like them the best out of all.