AnDyMaN

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i have the kicker ds690 coaxial speakers in a mazda protege. I hooked it up to this HU http://cgi.ebay.com/PANASONIC-CQ-C73...QQcmdZViewItem but it doesnt put out any bass sounds. I see the cone move, but no base. I dont know if it is 100% sealed, but its pretty close. do i need an amp to power it? or anybody know whats going on? btw, its same size as stock. thanks for any input.

nismos14

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Check your HPF and adjust it to a lower number or turn it off. Don't expect that much BASS out of the 6x9's.

filtor1

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Another posibility is that they are wired out of phase.

Pearl96Max

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+1, this is what Im thinking the problem is. Although the HPF could be the issues, Im leaning more towards the wiring.

nismos14

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Agreed it does seem like the phase would be more of the problem when he says he can see the cone move.... could be either or I suppose.

AnDyMaN

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thanks for the response. ill check the wiring tomorrow. ill also check the hpf also, however, the front speakers are stock speakers and they're providing all the bass, while the rear kickers provide the majority of the treble.

djfrestyl

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Should be the other way around. Bass in the back, highs up front.

ElVito1981

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should be nothing in the back, everything in the front. That's the way in which stereo sound is intended to be listened.

nismos14

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Elvito Do you have subs up front then?

Lows can come from anywhere. Lows are non-directional sound, and I agree that mids/highs should be up front. Low end can come from anywhere.

In reality lows shouldn't come from any front or rear speakers only subwoofers.

slickrick

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I like my tweeters attached to my rear view mirrors...

filtor1

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I have four in that same location.

djfrestyl

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Mine are in the trunk.

...for the dead bodies

nismos14

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I like mine underneath the car.......... and I have holes in the floor board to make them come into the cabin

Pearl96Max

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If I could have my sub bass up front, believe me I would. I think theres alot of people that would agree...

djfrestyl

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That day is getting nearer. Infinity is moving towards larger woofers in the doors. It's only a matter of time. Maybe by the time I buy a new car in 3-4 years.

slickrick

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I would but in my car it is not easily accomplished. I hope my new speakers will help blend the substage. When you get a chance PM the price of the pac swi-p so i can pay ya.

nismos14

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Pac swi-ps is great! Breeze to instal.

slickrick

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how responsive is it compared to the stock radio with controls? the pac swi-x has a horrible delay...when it works.

nismos14

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Um the delay is REALLY short, but there is one depending on the factory controls. I'm going to mess with it a little bit this evening, I'll report back what I find. I assume the factory switch is variable so I'm going to have to retry without pushing the puttons in ALL the way because if I do that then it may be a little more responsive, will let you know tonight or tommorow.

AnDyMaN

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i checked the wires, and its match up right. - is connected with the minus and + is connected with the plus. is there any other possibilities? btw, the hpf is off.

i know the Hu is wired up right, because the stock speakers worked and bass came out.

slickrick

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set the HPF to about 80.

nismos14

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Just for ***** n giggles wire one of the rear speakers our of phase and see what happens. Swap the + and - just on one speaker.

djfrestyl

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But are you sure the signal coming from those wires are in phase?

ElVito1981

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well 2-way coaxial speakers can handle bass better than 2-way components right? I know components handle the highs much better, but coaxials seem to give more bass.

Pearl96Max

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What in the world would make you think this??

talisman311

speaking of bass, ever notice GM 6x9s put out a ton of bass?

Pearl96Max

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yea to give enticement to buying the car and to get you to get replacements from them. Bass or not, they still sound horrible.

nismos14

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Coaxials have less bass then components in most if not all cases..

ElVito1981

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really?? Cause when I had components, I had to turn down the bass on the head unit all the way cause when I pumped the volume up high, the speakers couldn't handle bass at all. But with the coxials I have now, I dont' have to turn the bass down cause even at high volume, the bass doesn't distort. The only thing I don't like about the coaxials is that I have to turn down the trebble all the way cause at high volume, they sound really shrill.

nismos14

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What components did you have? What coaxials do you have now? What was powering the components and the coaxials?

Pearl96Max

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everything is relevant to what you have now, had then what powered each, source unit, placement,install,etc. All things equal a dedicated midbass should have produced better results.

ElVito1981

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ok, then I want to get these components http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=1145. Don, if I get those with this audison amp http://www.audison-america.com/Produ...2500/2500.html and I drive up to see you, could you install everything for me?

Pearl96Max

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Sorry sir, Ill have to pass. Both manufacturers frown upon me doing that. If its not bought authorized they dont want me associated with it. Not to mention theres always a good chance that theyre counterfeit products.

ElVito1981

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then what do i do? I want to buy both those products and have them installed in my car. I thought you did installs.

nismos14

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He does but not on UN-authorized product. It would be against his morals as a person in the business to do something like that. Buy it from him

Pearl96Max

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Exactly. Or buy it from a local legit dealer.

Pearl96Max

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I have no problem installing either of them IF you buy them from either a local dealer or from me. Doesnt matter either way, but I will request to see a valid sales receipt prior to anything else.

Neither manufacturer would like to see me get my hands dirty with that internet stuff.

Dyn is very strict with that stuff, as is Audison/Orca design. Although theyve already been copied with counterfeits.

nismos14

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Why would you spend THAT much money on un-authorized product? There is no REAL warranty on them. If something happens tough S.

ElVito1981

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ok, no problem.

nismos14

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Smart man