6SpeedTA95

Hey guys my brother works for a company that gets good discounts on car audio. I did not go through him for my system because he can get in trouble for misusing his discount. However, he does plan on quitting and about the same time he quits I also have a birthday. He said he'd get me the box but I'd have to pay for the sub, but that he could use his discount. So that means I can get an Alpine TypeR 10" or 12" for less than half the MSRP. Roughly 90 dollars for the 10" and 97 dollars for the 12". I didn't really want something that big, the 8 is good enough for me in 95% of all my applications and adaquate in another 2 or so %. But on real low bass the sub 35hz it defiantely lacks so I figured for as cheap as I could get a 12" for it might be worth it. I'd be powering it at 2ohms with 400watts RMS.

What do you guys think? Is it worth it? Should I do it or not? The reviews on this sub are really good. BTW I've got some time to think about it but I value the boards opinion.

slickrick

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buy it. employee deviance=bad, but don't worry about that.

nismos14

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I'd go for the 12.

6SpeedTA95

If its a legit gift then its cool plus he'll be leaving the store so its irrelevant. The latest typeR's are getting really good reviews. So I figured if I could get one cheap it might be worth it. Other options are Fosgate and Infinity and a couple lower end brands that I'd just assume pass on.

6SpeedTA95

So you think the latest TypeR's are decent?

slickrick

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I'm messin man. my white collar crime class teaches me about this 24/7. Go with the 12 you will be impressed.

6SpeedTA95

Well its still a ways off but I figure if the 8 happens to blow between now and then

6SpeedTA95

Is it possible to back the bass out enough that it doesn't rattle the **** out of my car with a 12? Thats my big concern I dont wanna be loud, my 8 sounds pretty clean and tight, however, on low tones it definately doesn't have it like a 10 or 12... tradeoffs I guess...damn decisions

djfrestyl

iTrader: (89)

What are the VC configurations on those subs?

AscendantMax

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bigger doesn't necessarily equate to louder. it's all in the install and tuning of your system. the larger cone will help reproduce the reallllly deep bass a bit easier though.

6SpeedTA95

DVC 4ohm I believe..

6SpeedTA95

I'm after more quality sound than loudness. As I said my Punch2 8 is adaquate for the vast majority of my needs. It just doesn'thit the super low **** like a bigger sub would. I figure if I have a shot to get one cheap I might do it simply because the sub is rated very well.

AscendantMax

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yeah, it's worth the shot. put that 12 in a nice sealed box built to the sub's spec and it'll get plenty low for you.

Torgus

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your brother should have 0 problems.
get the 12.

WhiteMaxima9600

I would go for the 12 also.. I have two 10" type-E basline subs in a 1.25 sealed box and they sound really good suprisingly so i can imagine the type-R 12 would satifsfy you...

Also, i highly recommend installing some damplifier from secondskinaudio.com.....I covered my trunk lid and rear deck today, and man what an improvement!! Subs hit cleaner than ever and a lot less rattle

BTW I got some ID V3. 10's coming soon... Gotta get rid of those comps..

nismos14

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Yes, I had a pair of 10's for a while and they were nice, sold them for more than I had in them so that worked well for me. I def suggest the 12, with the proper box. You'll be more than pleased!

mendon99

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sorry to thread jack, but what exactly do they say? just curious.. as i have hook-ups in many areas

thread starter, i vote 12 also.

burnurass

iTrader: (21)

I had dual 12 type R's....Very nice subs. A little boomy for my tastes..but still pretty good for that price.

6SpeedTA95

Doesn't that depend a lot on the box?

slickrick

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to do it. large corporations rarely prosecute individuals who do this; in fear of defamation of character suits and negative publicity for their respective company.

burnurass

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YOu are correct...

i tried my friend's Infinity Kappa Perfect 12.1D's in the same box...they both required the same volume I believe...
Infinity's sounded tighter.

6SpeedTA95

Yeah, what I've read is that the larger box typically increases volume and in some cases how low the sub can hit but a smaller box typically has a tighter more accurate sound. I will see if my brother can get the Kappa subs, if he can thats another sub I'd definately consider.

nismos14

iTrader: (56)

Stick with the type r. You'll be more than satisified.

burnurass

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Actually the Kappa Perfects sound better...but if your brother works at best buy (i'm guessing) they don't carry the KAPPA PERFECTS.

Ask nilesh..he had a set of these before also. I think he'd agree with me on this one.

nismos14

iTrader: (56)

I'm not arguing that, just saying he'll be more than satisfied with the type r Probably cheaper than the kappa perfect too.

6SpeedTA95

I'll be pushing it with 400RMS at 2ohm on a mono amp. Any idea as to which would sound tighter, the 10 or the 12? I think either would be significantly louder than my 8 and catch the lows better, so it becomes a question of SQ instead of SPL. BTW thanks for all your input, not only in this thread but my other ones

MannyNJ2k2max

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If he wants loud yes, otherwise the Kappa Perfects are actually pretty good SQ sub if he wants good SQ/SQL.

6SpeedTA95

But I can't get those for the cost of dirt

I can one from woofersetc or millionbuy if I wanted too I guess. That'd cost me about 35 more than my brother.

6SpeedTA95

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=2932

That one is about 35 or 40 more than I can get a 12" type R for.

burnurass

iTrader: (21)

do it...for 35-40 more than the cost of dirt you can get a better quality subwoofer. Now to see if you want 2 10's or 2 12's...hehe...I think yuo'll be alright with the 12" kappa perfects as they are still tight sounding subs vs. 12" type-r's.

djbonsu

for the alpine type-r 12" as i do have one in my trunk and it soundz great!!...get a good box within spec and you'll be satisfied....i have a sealed box and it definitely hits hard.....ive got the 12" 2-ohm DVC wired in series(to get a 4 ohm load) wit 450W RMS going to it....

burnurass

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why didn't you get 2 4ohms and run them at 2 ohms?

djbonsu

i wanted a single 12....conserve trunk space.....but the way if i decide to add another, i can still run them @ 2 ohms and feed them 900W RMS to be within power spec for 2 12" subs...(each wired in series then paralled togehter to get 2ohms total..)

6SpeedTA95

Not getting 2, just 1.

roll4life

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i have a 12 r in a sealed 1.5 cu ft box with 600 rms x 2 ohms i think...and it pounds way more than i need. all my mirrors shake..and all i hear is bass haha stock speakers ftl

WhiteMaxima9600

I started on alpines, there good but hanging around in here, i've learned there's lots of better options... ID's, diamonds, Arc audio etc.. But if it's the R's u want then go for it, just put it in a proper box...

solid71

I have a set of r's. Havent hooked them up yet but I will get to it this weekend. I have read reviews saying they are pretty good subs for the money. I got mine off ebay for cheap ^_^. I will have about 1500 watts on tap for thes subs

6SpeedTA95

What determins a proper box? Seems like all of q logics stuff is 5/8ths MDF which is ok for an 8 but sucks for a 10 or 12. Do I build a box? How important are dimensions vs size? I was thinking just a square 13x13x13 exterior dimensions which would put interior at 11x11x11 if I used 1 inch MDF.

AscendantMax

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Just make sure you get the interior volume to be within the sub's recommended range. The shape of it not as important as the interior volume IMO. Also, I think 1" mdf is a little overkill, and can get heavy very fast. 3/4" should be fine in most situations.

6SpeedTA95

Thats what I thought but I read basically everyone on this board saying the box makes the sub and to go 1 inch? So I could probably build my own box? If the box makes the sub I wanna build it right or have it built which is why I'm fishing for info on this.