Important: I have the Non-Bose system in my car.

I was wondering if anyone knows the amperage and ohms of non-bose speakers in the 4th gen. im in the process of installing my new headunit and wanted to know if id run the chance of blowing them, im putting in a pionner DEH-P7800MP.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...tailsComponent

So here are pictures of what i got with the headunit, what else am i gonna need to make my life easier. Im not worrying about an antenna adapter because my antenna motor is broken, so what else.



And anyone have helpful hints on getting these screws out to get out the stock headunit? Weve tried a lot and broken two bits, so whatd you do to get them out. the other side was quick and painless, this side is the exact opposite.


Thanks in advance,
Mark

 

I heard if you screw them IN, they'll pop and get loose. Try that, but stop if it looks/feels like its striping.

 

You have to do a amp bypass with the bose speakers. I'm not totally sure which wires you disconnect but just to give you the heads up expect to blow the bose. But that just gives you another reason to work on our cars.

 

You wont blow them. And for Bose systems, all you have to do is tap into the ACC wire and connect it to the Bose Amps remote wire so the amps turn on. Actually sound pretty good with an aftermarket HU and Bose speakers just Louder than normal without the distortion. As for getting the screws out, you have to push in HARD and then turn. cordless drill makes a bit easier. No ant. = no radio pretty much since with an antenna our reception sucks with an aftermarket HU. Get a harness from pepboys so you dont have to splice any wires on the cars harness. all of the colors match up and everything plugs right in. If i remmeber right you can control your Ipod with that unit using the cd-ib00. but i could be wrong.

 

i have the non-bose system so im not worryin about amps yet, im just concerned that ill be pumping more power into the speakers then they can take. so thats why i wanna know the amperage and ohms.

yeah i looked into getting the iPod integration, i havent yet its ~40 bucks, and really easy to set up, so when i choose to do it, i can easily plug it right in, its a sick system though.
and ive been dealing with the bad reception, but radio sucks soooo bad around here that i havent listened to it in probably 6 months, just listening to cds and my iPod ive been more then happy.

 

alright still havent been able to get the screws off, i think im just going to have to drill them out. my next question is does anyone know what each color represents for the audio system. i took pictures by the camera died before i could upload them so pictures on the way. I found out that one plug is for the rear speakers, and the other plug is for the front speakers and other stuff that i dont know yet, which is where hopefully one of you can help me.
if any of you know what each color wire is connected to that would help a lot.
thanks!

 

nice pioneer HU. they sound great and the color will blend nicely with the trim/interior. i agree with 2da mizzax. get a harness. easier and cleaner. plug and done.

 

Im going to try this way first, its a learning experience! haha

 

I drilled my screws out, those were beeches =X

 

yea ull ruin the amp in the radio the bose speakers are 1 ohm ur radios output impedence is 4.. get the pac adapter dont be ghetto

 

use a drill for those screws, just press down hard so you dont strip them. drill has alot of torque though.

 

I dont have the bose system!!!!!

 

did i say u did... im making a general statement for those that are in this thread...

 

go learn, then post. as i stated. supply power to the remote wire to the bose amps and you will be using the bose speakers and amps. ohm load will have nothing to do with it as the speaker outputs from the radio will be nothing more than high-level signal inputs. but in any case that has nothing to do with the OP's question.

as far as the colors go, just get a harness connector. the colors will match up. red = acc, yellow = hot, blue = remote, blue/white = power ant, i forget teh speaker colors but if you dont use a harness you will have to figure out the + and - for each speaker in order to avoid cancellation. plug is so much easier.

 

look man who are u telling me that is correct to be using high level ouputs from the pioneer radios amps and inputting that into low level inputs of the bose amps? or for in simpler terms stacking one amplifier on top of the other? cuz if ur thinking that u should really pick up an electronics book and do some studying

 

blue/white = amp turn-on
blue = antenna
...3+ years as a mobile electronics installer..

 

no you dont...i just installed my new HU and didnt bypass anything....the volume is just louder at lower levels

 

yea but its gonna be louder... try cranking it up and watch ur speakers smoke.... thats the idea here guys.. the bose radio doesnt have a amplifier.. its a pure signal processor.. if u stick another radio there that thas an ampifier ur stacking one amp ontop of the other.. ur not supposed to do that....

 

I don't see what the title has to do with the thread content. I came in thinking I was going to see pictures of speakers and a radio installed in a Maxima.

 

You wont blow the NON BOSE spkrs. Only way you will is if you crank it too loud and you distort the spkrs. For the colors go get the harness at most stereo shops like best buy or circuit city. They're like 15-20dls and get the nissan antenna adaptor too. Make it all plug and play. DONT CUT THE HARNESS!

 

nice deck choice.. i just ordered the 6800 and im replacing all my speakers with kappa infinity and a soundstream amp 4 "60.7cs infinity kappa" speakers, 1 "soundstream xta 360.4" amp, 1 "deh-p6800" deck

yeah i can see why you say you dont have the money or time... this is gunna b a full day job o install and cost be about 800 CAD but i have a few friends that will help me all i gotta do is bring a few 24's of beer

 

^^haha nice choice, i dont really have the time/money for new amps and speakers, im more concerned about my performance, but i couldnt stand not playing CD-Rs so i felt a new H/U would be a good choice.

haha ill post pics for you ptatohed when i finish the installation.

 

putting in a new radio takes 30 min. and $800 for what?

 

Get a metra 70-7550 - Non - bose. For the bose it would be 70-7551 to integrate to the amps, /thread.

 

spray those screws w liquid wrench
place the whole thing on the floor
use a drill with really good torque an a phillips bit
push down on each screw hard as you unscrew it
they should come loose

I believe the stock non-bose speakers can only handle about 20w each.

 

alright installation is 98% done. i just need to buy a spacer because the one i picked up is a pile of ****. otherwise i got a metra harness made my life easier and didnt mind the 20 bucks haha.

thanks everyone for the insight and support. its a good learning experience to be able to install your own headunit so im happy i learned. ill post pics tomorrow.

 

Which metra # did you buy ?
Also from what I see in your pics you have a Bose headunit, and you said you have a non-bose system.
What spacer are you talking about ? Is this the frame around the pioneer ?

 

where do you see Bose anywhere?

 

Which double din headunit you think it is ?
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...s/DSC02300.jpg

 

all factory maxima headunits are double din. Bose or not.

 

4 ohm by the way...

no probs with new headunit....especially the pioneer as they usually put out a good clean signal. I think my stock non-bose speakers were actually pioneer also...but they sucked and were made out of this cheap paper. i see speaker upgrades in your future!

 

hahah yeah i do too, im just waiting for either this car to officially be mine or more money to buy speakers, maybe a sub...

the harness is a Metra CK WHNI-1. It worked fine and was the only Nissan Harness that was available at my pep boys.

i definately have a non-bose ill put up a pic to prove it haha. the spacer is to go underneath the new h/u because it is half the size of the stock h/u. here are pictures.
You can see where the spacer should be...

All lit up in the dark...

I also got this half done while the dash was apart. I bought neon and hooked it up to shine on the footwells. Saw it on a few maximas and liked the look so i did it. Pictures didnt do it justice, but you get the idea.

Here is my non-bose headunit...maybe im wrong, but i dont think i am.

 

it should look like this man...
click on the pic to make it larger

 

if it was bose it would say it across the tape deck inlet not full logic

 

My Bose unit looks completely identical. The only difference is that it has a Bose logo on casette cover

I'm looking for a pushout tray to fill that empty space under Pioneer unit

 

right im aware of what its supposed to look like. i said i need to go out and get the adapter/spacer. i just havent had a chance to yet. i just posted pics because a couple ppl wanted to see it, and someone was asking about where the spacer would go.

 

Very nice Pioneer unit
I just ordered Pioneer Premier Deh-P580mp, so I'm looking for all the stuff that I need for installation.
I went to BestBuy and the guy who installs car audio there said that I have to buy a frame which goes around headunit. I think he was talking about this: It has a tray and a frame http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Metra...oductDetail.do

Can you post a pic without the faceplate ? I wanna see if there are any gaps around the headunit.

Did you use the existing frame holes to attach the Pioneer or you drilled new ones ?

 

I think walmart has the best price on the dash kit
http://walmart.scosche-cars.com/prod...ductID=1863070
Even has the full size pocket. Plus they carry the universal nissan wire harness too.

Jae

 

Yeah ill take pictures for you tomorrow, it fit perfectly. i thought itd be too big by a little bit. but i just disconnected the climate control so i could spread the metal braces a little and it slid and fit right into the existing holes. Ill post pics of how it fits now and how it fits when i get the spacer.

thanks for the links guys, i might have to order online so that saved me a couple minutes of searching.

 

at canadian tire u can buy spacers that fit in the slot and u put ur speaker into the spacer and then it goes into the door or build ur own thats what im going to do