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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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Going going going GONE active... w00t

Well after thinking about it for a long long long long time and getting a HU that is capable AND getting a 2nd amp for my sub, I have made the move to an active setup.

First off let me state that I had no intention of taking my seat out more than once to wire up the amp to 4 speakers vs 2 but I ended up having to twice because I mis-wired the mids and highs. Anyways, it's a good idea to label the wires as you go that way you don't have the same problem I did.

Here are the components I'm using:
HU - Pioneer 880 prs
Amps - Arc 4150xxk, 2500xxk
Tweeters - Rainbow CAL25 Fabric
Mids - Dayton DA175-8, (will be change soon to Dayton rs180-4)
Subwoofer - RF 12" HX2 dual 2 ohm ported box. (soon to be a Power HX2)

I won't bore you with the install but here are my impressions of the setup as a whole -

Wow the difference in the front stage is intense. I am running 8ohm drivers for midbass at this time so it is a bit of a pita for setting the gains as one side is turned up well on the mids, and the tweet gain setting is at 0. Regardless I am very very pleased with the output and flexibility of the active settings on the HU.

The difference is night and day I can run the mids down to 40 hz no problem as they can run that low and can LP the sub at 40 with as steep as a 36db/octave slope. I can independantly reverse polarty of each driver in the system which is great for imaging! I am in love with the setup now. I am nothing but pleased with the way it turned out and the options I have for tuning.

When I first installed the tweeters they were peak in the 3k-4k range now being on the active setup I have no problems as I can attenuate the tweeter as a whole and use the eq (which I still have set on flat) as much as I need or want to.

If you have plans to run active, all I can say is do it asap! You will not regret it one bit.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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nice. great to hear it turned out good and you're pleased parag, nothing better than that..

also, get a tone generator, then you wouldnt have to label wires

makes me want to go active myself... i hate this hobby
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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I didn't label'em anyways lol I thought I had'em right but trial and error fixed that
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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I can't read this thread anymore because going active sounds enticing...
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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I thought about doing this, but the x-over on the Germaniums are pretty nice...... darn...... ..... here we go again.....

I am content... I am content.... x100.....

Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Active = worlds and worlds better than using passive xovers, efficiency goes up too since there's no loss through the xover More control over each driver as well

DO IT
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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That would mean I need another amp....... I still run rear speakers when I have passengers....
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maybe a little XXK...
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Run the rears off hte HU
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Run the rears off hte HU
+1

i'm going to stay passive....Keep it simple. well...really cause I don't want to run another amp.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Run the rears off hte HU

I thought about that, but not something I want to do.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 1996blackmax
I thought about doing this, but the x-over on the Germaniums are pretty nice...... darn...... ..... here we go again.....

I am content... I am content.... x100.....

fight the urge...the germ x-overs are too nice not to use.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Just what I was thiking.... thanks....
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Must resist going active, must resist going active. You guys make it hard out here for the audio junkie. Just when you think you are finish with the system, someone comes along and makes you want to do something different.

You guys are evil.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Yes, yes we are... now go do it

Passives ftl

Look at how much fun you can have with an 880

Here's the break down of what you get with the Pio -

Network (3-way network mode):
High HPF:
Frequency ................ 1.25/1.6/2/2.5/3.15/4/5/6.3/8/10/12.5 kHz
*Slope .......................... –6/–12/–18/–24 dB/oct*
Gain ............................ 0 to –24 dB/Mute (1 dB step)
Phase ........................ Normal/Reverse
Mid HPF/LPF: Frequency (LPF) .. 1.25/1.6/2/2.5/3.15/4/5/6.3/8/10/12.5 kHz
Frequency (HPF)............................. 25/31.5/40/50/63/80/100/125/160/200/250 Hz
*Slope (LPF) ............. 0 (Pass)/–6/–12/–18/–24 dB/oct
Slope (HPF) ............ 0 (Pass)/–6/–12/–18/–24 dB/oct*
Gain ............................ 0 to –24 dB/Mute (1 dB step)
Phase ........................ Normal/Reverse
*Low LPF (stereo/mono):Frequency ... 25/31.5/40/50/63/80/100/125/160/200/250 Hz
Slope .......................... –12/–18/–24/–30/–36 dB/oct*
Gain ............................+6 to –24 dB/Mute (1 dB step)
Phase ........................ Normal/Reverse
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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ahhhhhggdslfgj looks like too much fun for me.....


..well for my wallet anyway

Old Mar 5, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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This didn't cost me THAT much....

This is basically what it would boil down to
~$350 HU
~$$75 mids
~$100 tweets
~$550 Used 4150xxk
~$300 Used 2500xxk
~$150 misc things....

$1525... and the HU actually didn't cost me that much, it was only $30 since I traded my 860mp + $30 for it....
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14

$1525... and the HU actually didn't cost me that much, it was only $30 since I traded my 860mp + $30 for it....

But how much did the 860mp cost? Math pwns you.

Passive croo, holla
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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$350 its in the $1525.
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Passive croo hollaring back !
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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KEEP IT SIMPLE....KEEP IT PASSIVE (retired active user here...lol)
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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retired??? You barely got started. boohoo to you !
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Yes, yes we are... now go do it

Passives ftl

Look at how much fun you can have with an 880

Here's the break down of what you get with the Pio -

Network (3-way network mode):
High HPF:
Frequency ................ 1.25/1.6/2/2.5/3.15/4/5/6.3/8/10/12.5 kHz
*Slope .......................... –6/–12/–18/–24 dB/oct*
Gain ............................ 0 to –24 dB/Mute (1 dB step)
Phase ........................ Normal/Reverse
Mid HPF/LPF: Frequency (LPF) .. 1.25/1.6/2/2.5/3.15/4/5/6.3/8/10/12.5 kHz
Frequency (HPF)............................. 25/31.5/40/50/63/80/100/125/160/200/250 Hz
*Slope (LPF) ............. 0 (Pass)/–6/–12/–18/–24 dB/oct
Slope (HPF) ............ 0 (Pass)/–6/–12/–18/–24 dB/oct*
Gain ............................ 0 to –24 dB/Mute (1 dB step)
Phase ........................ Normal/Reverse
*Low LPF (stereo/mono):Frequency ... 25/31.5/40/50/63/80/100/125/160/200/250 Hz
Slope .......................... –12/–18/–24/–30/–36 dB/oct*
Gain ............................+6 to –24 dB/Mute (1 dB step)
Phase ........................ Normal/Reverse

My HU pwns you all day


















....and night :
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 04:53 AM
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This might be true, but you gotta admit it's decent for a noobix like me
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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retired??? You barely got started. boohoo to you !
hahahah you're partly responsible for that....you offered me iridium 8.3's with 4 beautiful crossovers....
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Don, tell him you were only lettin him borrow the xovers
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Don, tell him you were only lettin him borrow the xovers

Nah, cant do that. He bought the whole set.

Although to benefit from his newest addition he may want to go back to active.
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Nah, cant do that. He bought the whole set.

Although to benefit from his newest addition he may want to go back to active.
Quiet you
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Nah, cant do that. He bought the whole set.

Although to benefit from his newest addition he may want to go back to active.
I've been telling him that for a while now
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Quiet you

I didnt say shiet.
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