cops and radar questions?
03-27-2007, 03:10 AM
#1
cops and radar questions?
Hey,i was just looking at some radars and thinking of getting one becuase i shure as hell dont want no tickets.My buddy was like yea their great to bad they are illegal and cops have detectors for them to see if you got them.is their one i can get that cannot be dectected and whats the fines or whatever you will get if caught with one.
03-27-2007, 05:36 AM
#2
Originally Posted by 96MaximuzGXE
Hey,i was just looking at some radars and thinking of getting one becuase i shure as hell dont want no tickets.My buddy was like yea their great to bad they are illegal and cops have detectors for them to see if you got them.is their one i can get that cannot be dectected and whats the fines or whatever you will get if caught with one.
The only way a cop will know if you have one is if he sees it, and the only way to detect them is via a receiver and if thats the case they won't know exactly which car it came from, and there's a possibility that other various electronic devices had emitted the signal.
Also they are not illegal everywhere, and if you get caught with one I'm not sure if you'll get ticketed for it, but whatever you got pulled over for you will. Cops don't like detectors. Also if your local cops use instant-on your detector is borderline useless. Use your common sense to avoid tickets, know where cops sit and drive in packs when on highways.
If you still want one your best bet is a Valentine One
03-27-2007, 07:27 AM
#3
to everything above. Radar detectors are only illegal in VA in the Continental US as far as I know. You won't get a fine for having one, but if you do get pulled over for speeding, don't expect to get off with a warning. And just like was said above, cops can't detect a detector unless they see it. If you're thinking a radar jammer, don't do it. Very illegal. FCC doesn't allow for radar jamming because it messes up more than just a cops radar. Laser jamming, however, is legal so if you live in an area that the cops use laser a lot and you have the money, get a laser jammer. I have a Beltronics. Haven't had any problems.
03-27-2007, 07:28 AM
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If you're still living in Newfoundland, radar detectors are illegal in most Canadian provinces (if not all, not sure). Police are equipped with radar detector detectors and since there isn't exactly a lot of traffic in NL it would be pretty easy for them to tell where the signal was coming from. I don't know what the fine is but they will also take the radar detector from you so it would be expensive either way.
Probably best to forget about the idea.....
Probably best to forget about the idea.....
03-27-2007, 11:23 AM
#5
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I got a Valentine 1 and the remote.
Ran the power line in the header then down the A pillar and tapped into the fuse block. Pretty easy.
So cops might see a black box in my windshield - but no lights.
Also others can't 'piggyback' behind me and 'use' my detector.
Remote is mounted to the left of the Steering wheel, but I'm thinking of moving it to where the digital clock is (it doesn't work anyway).
I'm very happy with the set-up.
The thing has paid for itself many times over.
I think they're illlegal in USA only in VA and DC.
Don't know how that can be either.
Basically it's just a radio receiver tuned to a specific channel.
No idea about Canada, sorry.
Yeah instant-on sucks. You might still get a heads up if porky shoots at cars in front of you. And evn if they are shooting infront of you, you still might knock some speed off b4 you get zapped. Like Neo Raven456 says, even w/ a detector you have to use common sense. It's more like a safety measure than a "I-can-go-100-MPH-all-the-time" kind of thing.
V1 has Laser, but that's line-of-sight so similar to instant-on.
When you hear the warning it's really too late.
Augusta Moon - how does the laser jammer work?
Would it interfear with a Laser detector next to it?
Also sometimes ice on the windsheild with the sun just right can set off the laser warning - as can the tail lights of the new trailblazers.
I never heard of a dectector detector.
Don't know how that could work.
Some cheap detectors leak a signal (which my V1 picks up sometimes).
But as I said, they are receivers, not transmitters - so what's the detector detector detecting?
I'd say get one (the V1) - depending on how much $$ you have, how fast you tend to drive, how often you've gotten tickets in the past...
When I got mine it was around $400 or $450 I think and the remote was another $45 or $50. Not exactly cheap. So if you have the scratch - and if you can afford to have it confiscated go for it. You can mount the detector in the grill, but then it won't see as far or as well and the V1 reads front and back. Mount it in the grill and you lose the rear warning. I've heard of people with two stealh mounted front and rear.
Or you could just get a set of roof lights a siren and a police uniform, drive the way you want. But I hear the real ones don't think that's so nifty.
Ran the power line in the header then down the A pillar and tapped into the fuse block. Pretty easy.
So cops might see a black box in my windshield - but no lights.
Also others can't 'piggyback' behind me and 'use' my detector.
Remote is mounted to the left of the Steering wheel, but I'm thinking of moving it to where the digital clock is (it doesn't work anyway).
I'm very happy with the set-up.
The thing has paid for itself many times over.
I think they're illlegal in USA only in VA and DC.
Don't know how that can be either.
Basically it's just a radio receiver tuned to a specific channel.
No idea about Canada, sorry.
Yeah instant-on sucks. You might still get a heads up if porky shoots at cars in front of you. And evn if they are shooting infront of you, you still might knock some speed off b4 you get zapped. Like Neo Raven456 says, even w/ a detector you have to use common sense. It's more like a safety measure than a "I-can-go-100-MPH-all-the-time" kind of thing.
V1 has Laser, but that's line-of-sight so similar to instant-on.
When you hear the warning it's really too late.
Augusta Moon - how does the laser jammer work?
Would it interfear with a Laser detector next to it?
Also sometimes ice on the windsheild with the sun just right can set off the laser warning - as can the tail lights of the new trailblazers.
I never heard of a dectector detector.
Don't know how that could work.
Some cheap detectors leak a signal (which my V1 picks up sometimes).
But as I said, they are receivers, not transmitters - so what's the detector detector detecting?
I'd say get one (the V1) - depending on how much $$ you have, how fast you tend to drive, how often you've gotten tickets in the past...
When I got mine it was around $400 or $450 I think and the remote was another $45 or $50. Not exactly cheap. So if you have the scratch - and if you can afford to have it confiscated go for it. You can mount the detector in the grill, but then it won't see as far or as well and the V1 reads front and back. Mount it in the grill and you lose the rear warning. I've heard of people with two stealh mounted front and rear.
Or you could just get a set of roof lights a siren and a police uniform, drive the way you want. But I hear the real ones don't think that's so nifty.
03-27-2007, 11:59 AM
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http://www.radarbusters.com/support/...ector-laws.asp
"The use of a radar detector in a passenger vehicle is legal in all states with the exception of Virginia, Washington DC. and on military bases.
Radar detectors are illegal in all commercial vehicles weighing over 10,000 pounds
In Canada, the only three provinces that allow their use are Alberta, British Columbia and Saskatchewan.
Many overseas countries also ban their use, such as Portugal, Finland and Spain.
In areas that radar detectors are illegal, law enforcement use a device called the Spectre that is able to detect the use of radar detector in your car or truck. For more information on the Spectre, click here........."
"The use of a radar detector in a passenger vehicle is legal in all states with the exception of Virginia, Washington DC. and on military bases.
Radar detectors are illegal in all commercial vehicles weighing over 10,000 pounds
In Canada, the only three provinces that allow their use are Alberta, British Columbia and Saskatchewan.
Many overseas countries also ban their use, such as Portugal, Finland and Spain.
In areas that radar detectors are illegal, law enforcement use a device called the Spectre that is able to detect the use of radar detector in your car or truck. For more information on the Spectre, click here........."
03-27-2007, 12:32 PM
#8
Basically i want it because well this summer me and all the guys in the nf tuners(local car club) go for cruses and things like that,well this is my first year in it.only maxima too.booooyaaaaah! lol.But i wanted it for crusing the highway in packs and also when i may decide to give'r heat around down to get somewhere in a rush.But i dont want to screw myself over by getting fines and losing a 450 dallor bit of equipment.
03-27-2007, 01:01 PM
#9
Originally Posted by fast97maxse
I got a Valentine 1 and the remote.
Ran the power line in the header then down the A pillar and tapped into the fuse block. Pretty easy.
So cops might see a black box in my windshield - but no lights.
Also others can't 'piggyback' behind me and 'use' my detector.
Remote is mounted to the left of the Steering wheel, but I'm thinking of moving it to where the digital clock is (it doesn't work anyway).
Ran the power line in the header then down the A pillar and tapped into the fuse block. Pretty easy.
So cops might see a black box in my windshield - but no lights.
Also others can't 'piggyback' behind me and 'use' my detector.
Remote is mounted to the left of the Steering wheel, but I'm thinking of moving it to where the digital clock is (it doesn't work anyway).
03-27-2007, 01:28 PM
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Yeah, Burnurass - looks great there.
I have a 97 but the plastic cover to the clock looks the same as yours.
Any trouble getting to fit?
Is the 'down arrow' blocked, or is that just the angle of the shot?
Now that the weather's getting better it'll make a nice little project...
I have a 97 but the plastic cover to the clock looks the same as yours.
Any trouble getting to fit?
Is the 'down arrow' blocked, or is that just the angle of the shot?
Now that the weather's getting better it'll make a nice little project...
03-27-2007, 01:36 PM
#11
Originally Posted by fast97maxse
Yeah, Burnurass - looks great there.
I have a 97 but the plastic cover to the clock looks the same as yours.
Any trouble getting to fit?
Is the 'down arrow' blocked, or is that just the angle of the shot?
Now that the weather's getting better it'll make a nice little project...
I have a 97 but the plastic cover to the clock looks the same as yours.
Any trouble getting to fit?
Is the 'down arrow' blocked, or is that just the angle of the shot?
Now that the weather's getting better it'll make a nice little project...
Pretty much i dremeled out the back of the clock holder so that I could squeeze the hidden display in there...it was a SUPER tight fit.
03-27-2007, 09:43 PM
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The Valentine One is still #1.
The latest radar/laser detector and laser jammer results are out.
Radar/laser detectors:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...ctor-test.html
Laser Jammers:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html
Spreadsheet of the radar/laser detector results:
http://home.comcast.net/~ccaeric6/GOL_averages_MB5.htm
Radar/laser detectors:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...ctor-test.html
Laser Jammers:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html
Spreadsheet of the radar/laser detector results:
http://home.comcast.net/~ccaeric6/GOL_averages_MB5.htm
03-28-2007, 09:08 AM
#13
just to let the OP know getting a radar will not get you out of tickets. simply because the cop can just use instant-on and by the time your radar beeps he has already gotten your speed. a radar detector is a step up to help you aviod a ticket but if your speeding then your speeding. if your going a 100 it aint going to help you but say if you going 5-10 over it might give you enough time to slow down given its not aimed directly at you.
that said i own 2 x50 =P
that said i own 2 x50 =P
03-28-2007, 09:26 AM
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Not to be stupid, but
"i own 2 x50"?
as in you're allways 100mph?
And you're right, instant on = busted.
Your only hope is that porkys shooting at somebody ahead of you
- pick it up and you have a chance.
In CT the fine is based on speed, so any MPH you can knock off helps.
Also (in CT anyway, don't know otherwise)
Double the speed limit, or over 85 and you can lose your lic.
That's can - not automatic.
My town has a lot of 25 MPH and I'm often over 50...
"i own 2 x50"?
as in you're allways 100mph?
And you're right, instant on = busted.
Your only hope is that porkys shooting at somebody ahead of you
- pick it up and you have a chance.
In CT the fine is based on speed, so any MPH you can knock off helps.
Also (in CT anyway, don't know otherwise)
Double the speed limit, or over 85 and you can lose your lic.
That's can - not automatic.
My town has a lot of 25 MPH and I'm often over 50...
03-28-2007, 10:06 AM
#17
http://www.escortradar.com/x50.htm
2 cars...my V1 has excellent rear detection, unsure about the escorts.
2 cars...my V1 has excellent rear detection, unsure about the escorts.
03-28-2007, 06:38 PM
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for all of you in the states if you look at your license plate at an angle you will see what they actually aim the laser at . in the middle (im in NY) where lady liberty is below & above there are 2 infrared circles the laser reads the plate NO# and thats how they choose who to go after when there are a PACK of you leaving you to ask the trooper "Why ME not HIM" notice you NEVER get a responce. My boy in NCarolina told me about it so I am assuming the whole USA in same boat
03-28-2007, 06:47 PM
#19
Yea the laser jammer that plugs into the Escort that has two seperate mounts one in the front bumper as well as the rear bumper is very effective but after trying the Escort and the V1, the V1 worked way better I was testing the blue led version of the Escort and the latest V1 at the time 2 years ago.
There are a few ways cops send lazer or radar towards your vechile they are looking for flat surfaces that send there signal back to them.
1. headlights
2. windshield
3. licence plate
Radar in the rain is usless so cops can not get your speed in the rain not sure about lazer. A heads up is they are switching to a new system i know that europe uses is sound based echo version which cannot be picked up by anything so yoru scrwed with that but those guns are very expensive and limited so that prb take a long time for most cops to ever get a hold of maybe 2050.
There are a few ways cops send lazer or radar towards your vechile they are looking for flat surfaces that send there signal back to them.
1. headlights
2. windshield
3. licence plate
Radar in the rain is usless so cops can not get your speed in the rain not sure about lazer. A heads up is they are switching to a new system i know that europe uses is sound based echo version which cannot be picked up by anything so yoru scrwed with that but those guns are very expensive and limited so that prb take a long time for most cops to ever get a hold of maybe 2050.
03-29-2007, 07:22 AM
#20
Originally Posted by fast97maxse
Not to be stupid, but
"i own 2 x50"?
as in you're allways 100mph?
"i own 2 x50"?
as in you're allways 100mph?
like other mentioned. i own 2 x50= I have 2 escort 8500 x50 radars.
i've driven with both V1 and escorts. Thru the normal run of the mill areas. the arrow is nice to help you pin point where it might be coming from but to me they both are the same v1 prices at 400 and x50 at 300/320
most cops target headlights and plates. Hence the reason why VEIL was created. Read up on VEIL. Again there is no sure fire way to speed and not get caught, unless you got a car from the jetson's or something. There are steps to help you increase you chances to evade. VEIL supposely kills laser and slows down the time of other bands i think. But who is to say the cop is using laser.
What cops are doing now is driving normally in black SUV's unmarked on the highway and as you speed pass them they either have camera to take pictures or they just freaking pull you over. Michigan has corvette, camaro crusiers that blend in with all the other cars on the highway.
03-29-2007, 07:43 AM
#21
Originally Posted by TurTLe*
like other mentioned. i own 2 x50= I have 2 escort 8500 x50 radars.
i've driven with both V1 and escorts. Thru the normal run of the mill areas. the arrow is nice to help you pin point where it might be coming from but to me they both are the same v1 prices at 400 and x50 at 300/320
most cops target headlights and plates. Hence the reason why VEIL was created. Read up on VEIL. Again there is no sure fire way to speed and not get caught, unless you got a car from the jetson's or something. There are steps to help you increase you chances to evade. VEIL supposely kills laser and slows down the time of other bands i think. But who is to say the cop is using laser.
What cops are doing now is driving normally in black SUV's unmarked on the highway and as you speed pass them they either have camera to take pictures or they just freaking pull you over. Michigan has corvette, camaro crusiers that blend in with all the other cars on the highway.
i've driven with both V1 and escorts. Thru the normal run of the mill areas. the arrow is nice to help you pin point where it might be coming from but to me they both are the same v1 prices at 400 and x50 at 300/320
most cops target headlights and plates. Hence the reason why VEIL was created. Read up on VEIL. Again there is no sure fire way to speed and not get caught, unless you got a car from the jetson's or something. There are steps to help you increase you chances to evade. VEIL supposely kills laser and slows down the time of other bands i think. But who is to say the cop is using laser.
What cops are doing now is driving normally in black SUV's unmarked on the highway and as you speed pass them they either have camera to take pictures or they just freaking pull you over. Michigan has corvette, camaro crusiers that blend in with all the other cars on the highway.
03-29-2007, 10:50 AM
#22
yep seen the suv thing unmarked SUVs hidden lights. Another vehicle I saw which was crazy in a drug bust I was driving by was a Torus with the lights only behind the rear view mirrior facing the windshiled that was pretty crazy very sneaky yet the lights where extremly bright.
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