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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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wanna add extra sub

i got the bose system an its great but wanna get a little more bass. curious to know what i need parts wise to add a seperate amp and sub to the factory system
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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for starters....Do you wanna keep the old head unit?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Since he said to the factory system, I'm assuming YES.

Just tape rca's into the outputs of the HU for signal, run power ground and remote and hook up your sub, done.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Since he said to the factory system, I'm assuming YES.

Just tape rca's into the outputs of the HU for signal, run power ground and remote and hook up your sub, done.
Easier said than done...

but make sure your splice the right cable..
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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It's easy if you know how to do car audio installs.

Some of us are just better than others like

me > you.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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I'm going through the same dilemma. I want to add a Soundstream Amp and some subs to my Bose factory HU. What options do i have to get a good signal to my amp.(Other than getting an aftermarket HU)
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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I'm going through the same dilemma. I want to add a Soundstream Amp and some subs to my Bose factory HU. What options do i have to get a good signal to my amp.(Other than getting an aftermarket HU)
Read Nismos14's post...
Then use this:
http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/audiowiring.asp

This should help you figure out WHAT wires to tap.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
It's easy if you know how to do car audio installs.

Some of us are just better than others like

me > you.

and me > you
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Ok, but why did I also get the suggestion of using a "PAC AOEM-nis2 (with OEM-1)", or a hi-lo converter (line level converter)? I know how to install myself but mainly with an aftermarket system or basic factory system. This will be my first Bose install. I could go aftermarket in my MAXIMA, but I just like the look and style of my factory HU and don't want to remove it right now. I'm a complete Noob when it comes to splicing RCA wires. I've never had to do this on any of my past installs.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Because some people just like to spend money and feel more secure I suppose?
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Thats the thing, I don't mind spending money but I like to do it myself. I just did the Bose HU fix on mine.(The entire left side would sometimes cut out because of the ribbon on the changer) I just want the best way to install an amp and sub to my Bose HU.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Then you would be fine using the method above..
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Thank's 4 the help. This really didn't solve my delimma, but no one is giving me the best suggestion. I'm trying to see which one will give the better signal to my amp. Money is not an issue, quality is tho....
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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I dont understand how it didnt, either will work and do the same thing. There really is no 'better'.

If money is not an issue and quality is ...change the HU.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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OH! Now we have gotten somewhere with this. I was under the impression that one would be better than the other. So i can just go with a hi-lo converter (line level converter) and get the same mediocre results. Now since I have your attention good buddy, where should i install the wires from the aformentioned LLC? I was thinking on the factory sub, but should it be before or after the amp?



And no, money is not an issue, but I like my Bose HU. Maybe after I do this install and see how it sounds then I'll look into changing everything. But its stock w/ subs for now...
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Ok check it out the LOC, and PAC take a high level input and convert it to low level, the Blose already puts out a low level, so why would you want to make the signal even lower? You don't. SO the key is to splice in RCA's into the leads goign to the amp from the headunit to get your signal.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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IF it makes you feel better, I spliced the low level wires coming out of the bose headunit on my cousin's 03 maxima with BOSE + NAVI (wiring is the same as the diagram I posted previously) and it works VERY NICELY. it's actually giving out a VERY good/strong signal...much better than I thought. Just do it that way and be done with. ALSO...if you do decide to upgrade the headunit you have the RCA's run already.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Now we are heading into third base about to make the turn for home. As I stated before, i've never spliced RCA's but I'm sure I can with proper instructions. To my knowledge it is two main wires that make up + & two more that make up the - of the RCA. Which RCA wires do I connect to the wires behind the head unit?

I do apologize for being so unknowledgable about this subject, but I know I can do it myself as long as I get correct instructions.

THANKS
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Theres two wires in the rca, one ground one signal.
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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So I would match the rca wires with the rear output wires #13-16(from the diagram posted earlier)from the Bose HU? A pic of this would help out a great bit.
I already figured out to use the Bose sub amp wire (green w/white stripe) for my remote turn on.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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Well thanks for all the help fellow Maximites. I have completed my install, and it actually sounds pretty good. I ended up going with a LOC installed after the amp on the factory sub.
I'll post pics of my set up later. (i'm sure no one really gives a HOOVER tho)
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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You're not getting a full range signal to the amp then, you're getting a signal thats been eq'ed to hell and back by the bose amp.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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I didn't feel like taking out my HU again after I did the ribbon fix(left side cutting out). Then running my RCA's dow the passenger side of the car. I talked to some guys from my local Stereo One and they suggested to go with this. What do I need to change then Good Buddy?
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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You can tap right before the amp then, rather than after, and use rca's directly to those wires, just make sure you're using the appropriate wires.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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That's what it is... I'll try that and compare the difference. Thanks
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Hey Ben, post the pic's! I'd like to see how it turned out. I've been itching to put a sub on my Bose system too. I just haven't made that scratch yet. I've been dreaming of a fiberglass box on the left side of the trunk and the amp tucked into the right area of the trunk. But part of me knows that I'll make life difficult to get to the spare tire unless I strap the boxes off the floor somehow.
Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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i wanna see some pics to
Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Stupid question, but.
Do aftermarket stereos generally sound better than bose? I think bose sounds pretty good by itself. Though I am installing a pioneer HU when I install my system tommorow. Will I loose the quality of the bose?
Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Stupid question, but.
Do aftermarket stereos generally sound better than bose?
Yes


Originally Posted by aventerav
I think bose sounds pretty good by itself. Though I am installing a pioneer HU when I install my system tommorow. Will I loose the quality of the bose?

One could only hope.
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Hey Ben, post the pic's! I'd like to see how it turned out. I've been itching to put a sub on my Bose system too. I just haven't made that scratch yet. I've been dreaming of a fiberglass box on the left side of the trunk and the amp tucked into the right area of the trunk. But part of me knows that I'll make life difficult to get to the spare tire unless I strap the boxes off the floor somehow.
Sorry I've been kinda busy. I'll take the pics this evening and post them tomorrow. It's not a highly decorated install but it is neat and most of the wiring is hidden but some is noticable. I did want to install my amp and cap on a board but how could I mount it to the trunk? Also how can I mount my sub box to my trunk?
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Ok, I know this thread is on it's last breath but I wanted to post pics of my install. It was fairly easy but I've been doing installs for years now, but this was my first on a Bose system.

I did want to install my amp and cap on a board but how could I mount it to the trunk? Also how can I mount my sub box to my trunk?


http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583622
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First loose the cap, 2nd mount the board to the back of the back seat, tada.
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WOW, you've been doing installs for years? And thats how you do your wiring?
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Yep, that's how this one turned out. I like to mount my amps to boards and hide the wires like that, but its hard when u don't have a place to mount the board. Whats with the back seat mount? Why would that be a good location? Why should I get rid of my cap?


http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583606
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583587
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583571
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583559
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583537
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583528
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583509
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583497
http://www.imagestation.com/8699496/3890583477
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this:

is better than this:
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Well i'll be damned!!! That will be done today, ASAP. I like to ride with my back seat down, but i didn't want to show my amp off like that. Thanks 4 the suggestion and pic.
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mine is still kinda messy but you get the idea..
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That or this

Old Sep 1, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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I tried it out and it worked. Now i have to cut my wires down so everything fits right.
Why was removing the cap suggested? I know it's only a 1F but it should help.
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It won't help, it'll mask other issues, and cause more strain on your electrical system. Read up on doing th BIG 3, and do that instead

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