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What makes components better then coaxial?

Old Oct 21, 2001 | 11:07 PM
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What makes components better then coaxial?

What makes component speakers better then coaxial? What's the difference in sound quality?
My friend has them in his car and it seems like it has a better stereo effect then mine.
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 11:14 PM
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This is in general and is coming from someone who is using coaxials only in his system.

Components generally have much better crossovers and allow for better integration into an automobile due to the separate tweeter. Coaxials have true point-source sound so if they are installed right have a potential to have a better sound than the components. For example, take A/D/S 336im coaxial speaker. The tweeter swivels, allowing for optimal off-axis tweeter response. The crossovers are outboard, allowing the use of better, larger parts. This design gives the mid/tweeter separate inputs which allows bi-amplfication with active crossovers which is exactly what I'm doing. It sounds absolutely amazing. My previous setup consisted of Diamond Audio HEX in kick panels and I have to admit that I got these coaxials to sound even better in the doors than my kicks ever did. It took a lot of work, tuning, time alignment, and sound deadening however. The A/D/S coaxials retail for $450 so it's not your every day off the shelf speaker either.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

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Old Oct 21, 2001 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
This is in general and is coming from someone who is using coaxials only in his system.

Components generally have much better crossovers and allow for better integration into an automobile due to the separate tweeter. Coaxials have true point-source sound so if they are installed right have a potential to have a better sound than the components. For example, take A/D/S 336im coaxial speaker. The tweeter swivels, allowing for optimal off-axis tweeter response. The crossovers are outboard, allowing the use of better, larger parts. This design gives the mid/tweeter separate inputs which allows bi-amplfication with active crossovers which is exactly what I'm doing. It sounds absolutely amazing. My previous setup consisted of Diamond Audio HEX in kick panels and I have to admit that I got these coaxials to sound even better in the doors than my kicks ever did. It took a lot of work, tuning, time alignment, and sound deadening however. The A/D/S coaxials retail for $450 so it's not your every day off the shelf speaker either.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

Anton
Well I have Nakamichi Coaxials right now. What do you think of those?
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 11:40 PM
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Well I have Nakamichi Coaxials right now. What do you think of those?
Not a single thing. I have never heard them. Do they have outboard crossovers?
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001

Not a single thing. I have never heard them. Do they have outboard crossovers?
No they do not. Here they are: http://www.nakamichi.com/auto/fullrange/sp_c651.htm
Old Dec 2, 2001 | 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by SWEETSOUND2001
This is in general and is coming from someone who is using coaxials only in his system.

Components generally have much better crossovers and allow for better integration into an automobile due to the separate tweeter. Coaxials have true point-source sound so if they are installed right have a potential to have a better sound than the components. For example, take A/D/S 336im coaxial speaker. The tweeter swivels, allowing for optimal off-axis tweeter response. The crossovers are outboard, allowing the use of better, larger parts. This design gives the mid/tweeter separate inputs which allows bi-amplfication with active crossovers which is exactly what I'm doing. It sounds absolutely amazing. My previous setup consisted of Diamond Audio HEX in kick panels and I have to admit that I got these coaxials to sound even better in the doors than my kicks ever did. It took a lot of work, tuning, time alignment, and sound deadening however. The A/D/S coaxials retail for $450 so it's not your every day off the shelf speaker either.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

Anton
I looked into A/D/S. Why is it the higher models then the 336im are components, not coaxial?
Old Dec 2, 2001 | 10:35 PM
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I originally posted about half our ago, but as usuall the server choked.
Advantages of components: Ease of aiming tweet because of small driver allows sound stage to sound as though it is someplace that it is not. Ability to use larger, more complex and accurate, better sounding crossover components. And the ease of incorporating larger higher power tweets, but this is rarely done.
Advantage of coaxials: if the mid can be aimed properly then all the sound will come from one location. You can't mount a tweet much more in line than directly over the mid.
Old Dec 2, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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Dang! Now I see what happened. Why don't you delete the other post so you don't have people answering the same question in two different locations?
Old Dec 3, 2001 | 06:53 AM
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Try giving Focal coaxials a listen. They have excellent off-axis response and sound better than many separates for under $250. The a/d/s coaxials sound very good as well, but what did you expect from a/d/s???

Tony
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