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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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Need some help with my 1998 Maxima audio

Sup guys. New to the forum, glad i came across it though. Got a 1998 Maxima about 2 weeks ago, only 26,000 miles. Not to bad Well, here is my dilemma. I believe the style i have is a GX, not sure if that is the same as GXE. Maybe you can help me out. But anyways, the car is basically fully loaded, no leather, but cd/cassette, power windows, power drivers seat, ect.. you get the drift.

My back 2 speakers are blown, the left one rattles, so obviously i need to change that. Thing is, i do not have a Bose system in this car. Now, i have a friend that hooked me up with 6 Bose speakers, they actually came out of a 2002 Bonneville. they consist of

2- 6x9
2- 5.1/4
2- 4x4

Thing is, my back speakers are 6 1/2. if anyone has a base model 1998, maybe you can verify this. I wanted to put the 2 6x9's in the rear, and put the 2 5.25" in the front doors. No speakers in the back doors.

Is this possible?????????

I have run across several people saying different things. A few have said sure, get the proper amp, maybe cut the section correctly so the speaker can drop in, and that will do it. I talked with a guy tonight at a car audio place and he said since i don't have the standard bose system in my car, that it wouldn't work. He basically said the bose speakers are worthless to my car. He said something along the lines of most speakers are 4 ohms and the bose are 1/2 and ohm. I just need some verification on all of this from Current Maxima owners. let me know

also, anyone know where i can get the exact audio specifications for a 1998 Maxima base model. I want to give my friend the information pertaining to my particular audio system.

Let me know

thanks alot, and i hope i continue to come back to this board. Looks very nice

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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Re: Need some help with my 1998 Maxima audio

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Sup guys. New to the forum, glad i came across it though. Got a 1998 Maxima about 2 weeks ago, only 26,000 miles. Not to bad Well, here is my dilemma. I believe the style i have is a GX, not sure if that is the same as GXE. Maybe you can help me out. But anyways, the car is basically fully loaded, no leather, but cd/cassette, power windows, power drivers seat, ect.. you get the drift.
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I think you need a BOSE head unit to go with those BOSe speakers, although I'm not sure. If I were you, I'd buy a whole new deck and amps and speakers, but I guess it all depends on your budget.

There is no such thing as a GX.

You have either a GXE, SE, or GLE.

Since you don't have leather, and no BOSE system, you don't have a GLE.

If your door handles and grille are body color, your steering wheel is leather-wrapped, and your guages are white, you have an SE

Otherwise, you have a GXE. (chrome door handles, black guages, no BOSE)

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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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Re: Need some help with my 1998 Maxima audio

You can do it. I put Pioneer 6x9 in my 6 1/2 in hole, you just have to turn it sideways to get it to fit then turn it back regular. I don't know about the front ones though, b/c i thought the front doors holes were 6 1/2, cause that's what mine are, but i have the Bose. You don't need any amps for the Bose cause all the speakers should come with an amp connected to each speaker. And you don't need the Bose headunit to work with Bose speakers, you just can't mix-match the Bose speakers with other speakers.
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OOps, sorry about that guys. Again I am new, i just didn't see the electronics one. I will be careful next time.

Yea, when you refer to gauges (mph, gas, ect..) yes it is white. So i do believe i have the SE, talk about my lack of knowledge

See, that is what i thought. If i have the speakers, there should be a way to hook them up. I will keep that in mind about putting them in sideways, and then turning them. Good idea.

Well, like I said here is what i have to deal with, i forgot to mention my sub in the last post.

1 - 10 inch JL Audio Subwoofer
1- v12 Alpine Monaural click the link here to read, cuz i don't know what it all means.
http://defiantequipment.safeshopper....6/1037.htm?146

2 - Bose 6x9
2- Bose 5 1/4
2 - Bose 4x4

Basically, if you guys can help, i need to know what are my options. I pretty much get the feeling i will have to change my HU to get this to work, which i am willing to do. I am not looking to win bass competitions, just have a little extra base. So if anyone can just tell me what needs to be done, or needs to be changed, because the general feeling in this room is that i can get this to work with Bose Speakers. I do not have an amp for the speakers, but i am willing to fork out the money to purchase the necessary equipment. I just don't want to waste these wonderful speakers on nothing.

Thanks guys, oh and that picture is a TIGHT TIGHT CAR.

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Are your door handles body color or chrome?

And what picture are you speaking of?

If you mean my sig, then thanks! Just got those rims last week.

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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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Man, thats a good question, talk about my lack of attention in detail i belive they are white though. My car looks just like yours does, almost exactly. except for the rims and probably the silver handles.

Yea, it was your sig, its tight. How much HP does that car have? Mine is 190. Have you modified the engine or exhaust at all?
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Man, thats a good question, talk about my lack of attention in detail i belive they are white though. My car looks just like yours does, almost exactly. except for the rims and probably the silver handles.

Yea, it was your sig, its tight. How much HP does that car have? Mine is 190. Have you modified the engine or exhaust at all?
yep, you have an SE.

The total difference between your car (SE) and mine (GXE) is this:

I have chrome, you have bodycolor door handles/grille.

You have a leather-wrapped steering wheel, I don't.

You have Tokico struts, I do, but had to buy them, although the ones I bought are a step up from yours stock.

You have white guages (I do now because I bought Indiglos)

You have 5-spoke Alloy rims (most likely). My car came with 15" hubcapped wheels. (I have since upgraded, obviously)

Our engines, exhaust, and everything else under the hood is exactly the same. 190hp is stock hp on ALL 4th Gens, no matter what trim.

Anyone else know any differences?

Anyway, I figure I'm at about 210 or so now. Maybe a little more or less. I'll find out in a couple of weeks when I dyno.

I have done the following to my car:
Sprint 2" Drop
Tokico Struts
TSW Trophy Rims
Cleared taillights
Cleared front bumper lights
PIAA Superwhite headlight bulbs.
K&N Pop-Charger (intake)
Warpspeed Y-Pipe
Brushed Aluminum Dash Kit
35% Tint
Foglights (OEM, rewired to be on with or without headlights/highbeams)
Removed the dealer pinstripe
Indiglo Guages
Needles painted silver with red tips.

A loud azz stereo, 1100 watts, 2 subs, mids and tweets. PPI, Focal, Kenwood, Phoenix Gold, JL Audio.

And coming this weekend: Red Calipers!

coming this summer: 75 shot Nitrous, Cold Air Intake, Don's VB Mod

Hopefully I'll be at 280 or so hp after the Nitrous.

Thanks for the compliments. Sorry if I babbled. I LOVE talking about my car...

If you want to see some slightly outdated pics, you can go to www.cyberhub.net (my site). I'll be updating the pics in a week or two when I get time, but you can at least see the interior and such.
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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GOD DAMN!!!! no offense to anyone. How much money have you thrown at the car excluding the obvious, gas, maintenence, ect. I mean either sound equipment or mods.

Yea, my car is missing a nice tint job though.

So in this picture, did you take out the whole cd/tapedeck, and that flip flap thing underneath it, and then move the flipflap thing up 1 slot? http://www.cyberhub.net/Maxpics/09-2...olestock2a.jpg

In your opinion, i understand my bose speakers won't run off the current HU (head unit right?) but if i was to get something different, like yours, would it be possible?

How did you chrome all this out
http://www.cyberhub.net/Maxpics/09-2...sidealum1a.jpg

I can't tell in your picks, but did your car come with tweeters?
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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No, car didn't come with tweeters. I mounted them in a spare set of sail panels (didn't want to drill holes in the original ones) (The sail panel is the plastic triangle on the inside of the front door parallel to the mirror).

The "chrome" dash is the Joshua Tree aluminum dash kit. Peel and stick over the original panel.
(apsignwork's kit is better, I found out after I bought and installed this one, talk to Shadow on this board)

The BOSE speakers WILL run off an aftermarket deck. ebmorgan's I30 has this setup. I believe you just have to buy adapters for it.
www.phyberhub.com/olive

Money spent?

I've got to add it up.

New Sail Panels from a junk yard, $50.00
JT Aluminum Dash, $120.00 (ebay)
Rims, $800 shipped with tires, (from .org member)
Clear Corners, $30.00 (ebay)
Pop-Charger, $50.00 (local shop)
Tint, $129 (local shop)
PIAA headlights, $30 (from an .org member)
APC Headlight Upgrade Harness, $30.00 (suvlights.com)
Optima Deep Cycle Battery, $189 (local shop)
Front Strut Bar (forgot to mention last time) $30.00 (ebay)
Indiglo Guages, $35.00 (ebay)
Sprint Springs, $225 (ebay) (got ripped off, but they were on backorder, and I wanted them BAD)
Tokico Struts, $300 (I think) (shox.com)
Installation of Springs/Shocks, $120
WSP Y-Pipe, $220 (used from .org member)
Painted needles, Free.
Clear Taillights, $110 (bought a spare set of stocks to replace when I sell), did the work myself.
Folia Tec Caliper Paint Kit, $43.00
Tool for removing Pinstripe, $15.00

total for mods:
$2496.00

Audio:
Kenwood Z828 MP3 Deck, $400 (ebay)
JL W6 Sub, $150 (local shop, on sale)
Focal Mids and Tweets (front) $250.00 (ebay)
MB Quart RKC Co-axiles, $150 (ebay)
Custom Kickpanels, $275 (ebay, from .org member)
PPI PC4400 Special Ed. Amp, $225 (ebay)
PPI PC2300 Amp, $200 (ebay)
PPi A600.2 Amp, $185 (ebay)
Speaker box with hinging door and steel lock, $100 from friend.
PG 30-band EQ, $150 (ebay)
1/2 Farad Lightning Audio Capacitor, $50.00 (ebay)
1 Farad PPI Capacitor, $75.00
Wires, Distributors and Fuse Blocks, $150.00

Total Audio:
$2360

Damn...that's like a trip for 2 to Europe, for a MONTH...heh.

Never added it up. Oh well, no regrets! I'm sure this is a pittance compared to some other .org members.

Oh yeah, and that's about my 5th audio system in the last 7 years....so multiply that by 3 or 4 for the Audio.

Old Feb 27, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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So if you could give me a rough estimate on what it would take for me to get my bose up and running, what do you think. Unfortutenly, the guy that got me the speakers works for a plant that deals mostly with GM, and i believe many of their DECKS won't work in a Nissan. But i am not sure. I know nothing about Decks, so many you can help me out.

By the way, i appreciate all your help, and even your long posts. They are descriptive and interesting. Its nice to come across Forums where the people are nice and friendly and are more then willing to help, and there are those who are complete *******s.

Hey i wanted to ask you, do you know what size speakers are in the front doors (driver and passenger) is that also 6 1/2? that is what the guy said tonight at the audio store, but i always like multiple opinions.

That was the good thing about my car was the tweeters, came with it. Sun roof, power windows, power driver seating. Im happy. Unfortutenly, i have the car in the shop cuz i am getting this strange vibration/low rumble when i accelerate my car, and i think it has to do with the exhaust, but not fully sure. Ever had a problem with that. When i bought the car, the muffler was loose and hanging, and it was banging on the ground when the car hit large bumps, so part of the bottom of the muffler is banged up, but the service dept. tightened it up and it looks fine, but i am wondering if they accidently did something, or maybe when that muffler was hitting the ground something got loose in it. I know nothing about cars, its like looking into the human brain for me
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Originally posted by jag5311
I know nothing about cars, its like looking into the human brain for me
Stick around...you'll learn.

I don't know about your friend's speakers. I suggest just getting a new deck and new speakers. Kenwood and Focal are my favs...but everyone's opinion varies on experience with their products.

Decks:
Kenwood (My deck)
Clarion
Sony Mobile ES (NOT Xplod)
(used to have one, loved it, but not like my Kenwood)

Alpine
Pioneer Premier (NOT their regular stuff)

Speakers:
MB Quart (pricey)
Focal (My personal fav)
Diamond (pricey, but not as much as Quarts)
Boston Acoustic (Basically ARE Quarts)
Pioneer Premier (good price, fairly good)
Infinity Kappa (Good price, best for the $$$)

I didn't have the BOSE in my car, but I do have sunroof, power driver's seat.

Power windows and tilt steering wheel are stock with all Maximas, as well as some other minor amenities. Do you have the remote? if not, buy one. It should work with a little programming. (learn how to program it by searching for it on this forum)

Could be a bad install on the muffler or your Catalytic Converter rattling against something. Mufflers are basically hollow, so I doubt something inside the muffler is wrong (correct me anyone if need be)

All speakers in the car are 6 1/2"

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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cool. Hopefully in the months to come, i will eventually have my own sig on here Never know. Well i know my options are always to get new speakers, the guy i talked to who said it was IMPOSSIBLE to do the bose thing recommeneded some 6 1/2 kenwoods, 160 a pair. It just sux, cuz i have 6 speakers in the truck of my car that i want to use so bad, oh well. Hopefully someone can offer a solution.

thanks ian

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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get a whole new system!!!
Old Feb 28, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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Wow, there you go, Simple as that huh

I think it may be more cost effiecient to get any extras needed to make this work then to pull the money out of my butt to buy an entire new system.
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from that list..

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Wow, there you go, Simple as that huh

I think it may be more cost effiecient to get any extras needed to make this work then to pull the money out of my butt to buy an entire new system.
its all about whre you shop.. you shop in the wrong places you are going to get ripped off.. talk to sweetsound he can pretty much get you anything you want at great prices.. check the FS forum for feedback from maxima.org members on his service...
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Ok, thanks Sprint. I can do that, but since my lack of knowledge affects which items to buy, i will need help from all you experts. My lack of knowledge also screws me when it comes to getting ripped off. You guys know what the current items i have are, as listed above, i just need to know what items i NOW need to make it work.

I also found out from the guy last night that the 5 1/4 speakers are actually woofers. These speakers are all out of a 2002 Bonneville, so i am not sure where i could go to find out the audio specifications for that car.
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email sweetsound.. tell him what you want.. tell him what music you listen to.. tell him about how much you want to spend.. he will work with you.. he won't rip you off.. and if you are not looking to get a top class system for millions of dollars he will recommend stuff to satisfy your needs at your budget..

you post here.. you are going to get 50 million people telling you to buy 50 million things.. talk to Anton.. he is an audio expert..

personally I am going to tell you to buy Diamond Audio..

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...=Diamond+Audio

great prices on ebay..

someone else is going to tell you to buy MB Quartz.. someone is going to tell you to buy focal.. it goes on and on..
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Ok. I think i will talk to him. I may have the option to get whatever speakers i need for free, possibly!!! I don't know yet. I am honestly thinking this bose thing won't work out. I have talked to another audio specialist and they all seem to say that since i don't ahve the entire Bose HU and whatever, it won't work out because each bose speaker has its own specified amp, and i would need some kinda "wire cage" or something. So now i am honestly thinking if i can just get some Kenwoods or Diamond or whatever, maybe 6 1/2's, i can just replace all the speakers in my car with that.

Now question, would all the speakers be the EXACT same whether they are going in the rear or the front doors? I notice on most speakers they have that thing protruding from the middle, which i understand produces the HIGHS? is that correct. None of the Bose Speakers have that on them, its all flat with a little soft bubble in the middle.

I just don't know if i should get 2- 6 1/2's and 2- 6 x9 (and then do what that one guy said and put it in the rear, and twist to get it to fit) and then put the 2- 6 1/2's in the front doors, or just go with 4- 6 1/2's and just replace the 4 speakers.

Is it worth attempting to get 2 more speakers in the rear doors?

thanks for the info guys

bryan
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Speaking of sweetsound.

Those KickPanels yuou saw on my site are originally from his ride.

They're awesome.

He says he wants to buy them back...heh.

He really is a great guy to get advise from.

I also know he sells Diamond HEX 6.5's for $350, which is an awesome price.

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I also know he sells Diamond HEX 6.5's for $350, which is an awesome price.

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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....sound+is+round

please see my opinion on 6x9's

Originally posted by jag5311
Ok. I think i will talk to him. I may have the option to get whatever speakers i need for free, possibly!!! I don't know yet. I am honestly thinking this bose thing won't work out. I have talked to another audio specialist and they all seem to say that since i don't ahve the entire Bose HU and whatever, it won't work out because each bose speaker has its own specified amp, and i would need some kinda "wire cage" or something. So now i am honestly thinking if i can just get some Kenwoods or Diamond or whatever, maybe 6 1/2's, i can just replace all the speakers in my car with that.

Now question, would all the speakers be the EXACT same whether they are going in the rear or the front doors? I notice on most speakers they have that thing protruding from the middle, which i understand produces the HIGHS? is that correct. None of the Bose Speakers have that on them, its all flat with a little soft bubble in the middle.

I just don't know if i should get 2- 6 1/2's and 2- 6 x9 (and then do what that one guy said and put it in the rear, and twist to get it to fit) and then put the 2- 6 1/2's in the front doors, or just go with 4- 6 1/2's and just replace the 4 speakers.

Is it worth attempting to get 2 more speakers in the rear doors?

thanks for the info guys

bryan
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Ok, i read that thread. SO why is it 6 1/2 tend to make the sound more clear and quality, even though i saw there are those who argue with you. Well, my 10 inch jlaudio gives me the boom boom i need, but i also want the sound quality. Will i get some extra decent bass from the rear speakers along with my 10 inch?

let me know

thanks

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my diamond audio hex never go below 120k reason is i don't want them pushing bass.. just rear fill.. the great thing about diamond audio crossovers is they have a rear fill on them.. tweeters/woofers/rear fill..

so the crossover sends exactly what the rear speakers need and what they should be doing ..

Originally posted by jag5311
Ok, i read that thread. SO why is it 6 1/2 tend to make the sound more clear and quality, even though i saw there are those who argue with you. Well, my 10 inch jlaudio gives me the boom boom i need, but i also want the sound quality. Will i get some extra decent bass from the rear speakers along with my 10 inch?

let me know

thanks

bryan
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to me 6x9's sound muddy.. not very good sound quality.. always remember.. "sound is round" you are getting a better wave pattern..
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Well, i just made a discovery, i must have been on crack when i said i had 2- 4x4 bose speakers. I have ;

2- 6x9
2- 6 1/2
2- 5 1/4

That is the set there. Too bad i can't use them

Well SPRINT, there would be my sound is round if i used those 6 1/2 but i only have 2, and i can't mix and match like someone said.
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Originally posted by jag5311
Well, i just made a discovery, i must have been on crack when i said i had 2- 4x4 bose speakers. I have ;

2- 6x9
2- 6 1/2
2- 5 1/4

That is the set there. Too bad i can't use them

Well SPRINT, there would be my sound is round if i used those 6 1/2 but i only have 2, and i can't mix and match like someone said.
I had MB Quart 5 1/4"'s in my front door for awhile.

Just make a 6.5" circle out of very thin wood (fiberboard works best), cut a 5 1/4" hole in that circle, mount the wood in the 6.5" opening, and the speaker in the wood.

I'm thinking about putting some Focal 4" speakers in my doors to compliment the 6.5's in my kickpanels, actually.

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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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the size does nto match, do not install. just go for new 6 1/2 for the front AND back it will sound muc better. the stock gxe speakers are actually ok if u got the "premium" package
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