Do higher range frequency's damage your ears more then lower...there's more waves per second thus making more energy...but now i've got subs in my car and i can feel my hearing changing...sometimes its like my ears are sore and i feel it in my jaw...anyone????

 

anything past 120db, high or low range can cause permananent damage. Tinitus is a scary thing. I've known concert sound technicians that have gotten it. Most simply can't hear well anymore, but others have ringing caused by the tiny sensory hairs breaking. Usually, with ringing that does not go away - constant 24x7, it requires a great deal of anti-depressants to keep you from wanting to put yourself out of misery.

 

i hadnt even thought about that, i mean i dont play my music that loud, i mean I do enjoy a good hard thump, but it never really caught my attenchion. just another thing to watch out for, cool
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MrGone

 

120db is too damn much i'd say.. playing music at that volume and driving is pretty crazy, i can't believe some people do it..

I rather have a nice clean sound with a little thump over a hard hitting system which drowns out everything..

still, i'd think that being subjected to a lot of noise constantly for a long period of time would be damaging to your ears regardless... My fathers friend worked in construction for over 20 years and has hearing problems because of it, good thing the union benefits cover everything, i'd still rather not get any in the 1st place.. I feel my hearing got worse as well though and i don't even have a system installed in my car yet

 

that's nice to think, but if you have the power, why not use it?

 

true as well

it depends on you, do whatever makes you happy.. there is a chance you will die in a car accident everytime you drive but that doesn't mean you shouldn't drive at all lol

 

heh...some bump is good enough for me. I recently rode in a friends Ranger that's hit in the 150dB range - it's his stereo car. Man, that's all-out crazy...I had a headache for most of the day just from the SPL rattling my head. Now that'll cause ear damage.

 

I just like the mothers in the miny vans to give you dirty looks, and the younger kids riding with their parents saying, thats what I want my car to sound like!

 

There's no corrilation between freq and energy. The HF has the same energy and should have the same amount of damage as LF.

 

The fact that there are more wave in higher frequencies does not necessarily equate to more damage. Low frequencies have greater wavelength, which means that the parts of your ear actually travel farther instead of more often. To illustrate rather crudely, which will wear out/break a rubber band faster: stretching it by one inch one hundred times or stretching it twenty inches inches ten times? I guess it depends on the size of the rubber band, but you get the point.

 

that was a perfect analogy and i totally get it now...i'll be sure to keep my amp turned down a bit...esp with the windows up

thanks

adrian

 

It's perfectly normal for guys hearing to gradually go down, not drastically, but it does. 120 db concerts, like TimW mentioned, can bring serious pain.

What's insteresting is that guys are into sound, yet we lose our hearing in later life. Women, on the other hand, still keep very good hearing. Total irony, especially since most audiophiles are men.

DW

 

I agree with this. I don't understand why guys are audiophiles yet we seem to lose hearing before women.

120db is not that loud in a car. You would be surprised at actually how easy it is to listen to that.

The reason that people listen to bass and lose there hearing is that they are turning that up way louder than the mids and tweets. when was the last time you saw 100watts on something smaller than a four. You just can't handle the highs as well as you can the lows. That is my theory anyway.

 

i dont particularly care for tons of spl, but i do LOVE to be "moved" by my music...if its not something that you experience with feeling and hearing...it just aint right .

eric

 

the frequency does have a lot to do with it. if you're outside a car that's close with the music real loud, what do you hear? the bass. yes, the bass is turned up more, but the bass also penetrates more. the higher the frequency, the more it hurts, so the bass can be loud and be causing damage without pain.

 

No kidding!! I dated a girl with Tinitus once. She had learned to deal with it. But it was always there!

 

That's b/c low frequencies naturally travel farther and thru barriers way better than high frequencies.

DW

 

hmm..as a raver...ive seen many DJs' lose their hearing...or can barely hear..they swear its because the monitors are turned up so loud to overcome the rest of the system...and mainly becasue of the horn loaded tweeters that are found in most monitors..ive been between a pair of JBL monitors....and the horn tweeter feels like a sharp pain in you ear.....bass..i can stand..But, it just seems like treble hurts alot more...making me think that it causes more damage?

 

horns ....and dirty floor mats

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in the NBA the Sac Kings areana get over 100Db - OT

 

ive had tinitus for years. its more of an annoyance than anything. i dont know about having to take all sorts of anit-depressants, ive never heard of that before. the only time its even really noticable is if your in a place thats completely silent. the only time i remembered it bothering me is when i went upstate and tried to sleep at nite. otherwise, just a fan running something quiet is enough to drown it out. basically , it kinda sounds like your in a room that has flouresent lights. just a high pitched ring.

 

I have often thought of buying stock in the companys that make the hearing aids - cause you know with all these systems in the younger peoples cars... more of them as they get older will need the hearing aids.....

 

The thing with treble is that when it is way too loud, you don't really feel it vibrating the room or anything. The energy of that tweeter just goes straight to your ear. Knocks your hearing out very subtley. With bass, when its too loud, you hear it and feel it.

DW

 

Prolonged exposure to anything over 85 dB can seriously affect your hearing as well. I have been around the competition stereo community for about 12 years now. I have had two competition vehicles and enjoyed every minute of it. Currently, I have a full Diamond Audio system in my car, consisting of Hex components both front and rear, and 3 Mac Daddy DA 10s in the trunk. Power is by JL Audio. Since I have been aorund systems like this for so long, my hearing is a far cry from what it was 5 years ago. I can no longer understand people unless they are really facing me. If someone is muttering something or whispering, I hear absolutely nothing. However, the strange part is that I can hear high pitched frequencies very easily now. And the bad thing, is that it hurts. A sports whistle sounds like someone is sticking an icepick into my ear. It's really bad and really painful. The stereo stuff has been fun, but it is not worth going deaf over. Take precautions and don't overdo things. You don't want to permanently handicap yourself. Handicapped by God's will is one thing, but handicapped by sheer stupidity is rediculous.

C.D.

 

honestly, you think solo 12L7 will kill my ear drums? Its either 12W3 or 12L7 for me right now.. STILL deciding.. I want 12W3, but I love the way 12L7 looks, and its reps