Component Speakers
Component Speakers
Hey all, just wondering about component speakers in the front. I've got a 99 GXE Maxima and am wondering how well a 6.5" component speaker system would work and where the best place to install the tweaters and crossovers would be. Also wondering what anyone recommends, currently looking at MB Quarts, Infinity Kappas, and Alpines. Any favorites for 4-channel amps would also be helpful. Thanks
Re: Component Speakers
Originally posted by tedder
Hey all, just wondering about component speakers in the front. I've got a 99 GXE Maxima and am wondering how well a 6.5" component speaker system would work and where the best place to install the tweaters and crossovers would be. Also wondering what anyone recommends, currently looking at MB Quarts, Infinity Kappas, and Alpines. Any favorites for 4-channel amps would also be helpful. Thanks
Hey all, just wondering about component speakers in the front. I've got a 99 GXE Maxima and am wondering how well a 6.5" component speaker system would work and where the best place to install the tweaters and crossovers would be. Also wondering what anyone recommends, currently looking at MB Quarts, Infinity Kappas, and Alpines. Any favorites for 4-channel amps would also be helpful. Thanks
Yeah, components would definately sound a lot better. I have an I30 and it came with Bose tweets stock next to the door handle. If you take a look at a Max with Bose you'll see the stock location. I doubt that this is the absolute best place to mount them, but it should sound good regarless. If you plan on installing them yourself, try different position before you cut the openings. The speaker brands you listed are good, but the best I've heard are Focal. If you get one of their lower lines then it should be around the same price range as the brands you listed. As for amps, I love JBL (because of the value), but they only have one 4 channel model. It's around 40-50 x 4. If that's not enough power for you, I've had very good luck with Orion, Alpine, and PPI as well. All make great multi-channel amps.
hi all,
h, there are several advantages to components over 3-way "triaxial's i'm assuming?"...cap's in the tri-ax's are basic..no clarity and very bad overlap usually to degrade the drivers thenselves..2 way or 3 way "component" systems are usually matched from the mfgr. who makes them..crossovers are designed in the limits of the drivers themselves...giving more acuracy for the speakers used..there are always some limits with cap's and coils as it takes power..power goes through the different devices which make a certain frequency play in the speaker..this is done after the amplified state..
I personally would go with a 2 way or better yet, 3 way design and put the mid and tweet in the kickpanels..would have to make them out of modified factory panels mdf, and fiberglass, but overall get a very good stage presence.
there is also the option of horns...which would work out rather nicely in a max..(I have 98 anyways)
I am for now, doing the dynaudio 340 system with woofers in doors and the 3 and tweet in kicks....may change to a horn setup not sure..
but to this thread, I would go with a seperate setup instead of a coax or whatever...imaging will be much better.......
h, there are several advantages to components over 3-way "triaxial's i'm assuming?"...cap's in the tri-ax's are basic..no clarity and very bad overlap usually to degrade the drivers thenselves..2 way or 3 way "component" systems are usually matched from the mfgr. who makes them..crossovers are designed in the limits of the drivers themselves...giving more acuracy for the speakers used..there are always some limits with cap's and coils as it takes power..power goes through the different devices which make a certain frequency play in the speaker..this is done after the amplified state..
I personally would go with a 2 way or better yet, 3 way design and put the mid and tweet in the kickpanels..would have to make them out of modified factory panels mdf, and fiberglass, but overall get a very good stage presence.
there is also the option of horns...which would work out rather nicely in a max..(I have 98 anyways)
I am for now, doing the dynaudio 340 system with woofers in doors and the 3 and tweet in kicks....may change to a horn setup not sure..
but to this thread, I would go with a seperate setup instead of a coax or whatever...imaging will be much better.......
Component Speakers. i will have to say that Focals are nice, but MB Quarts have a greater refined reputation in the Mobile Audio community and IASCA competitions. Nakamichi also makes a great set of components which are friendly with the wallet, and are in my opinion the best bang for the buck compared with the cheaper mb's. All it rolls down to is how much you're willing to spend and your specific musical tastes.
As far as components vs. coaxials are concerned: coaxials are tailored more toward a one piece design which components allow you to position the speaker and the tweeter and tune the sound better with the crossover specifically tailored to the set of midrange woofer and tweeter. Some crossovers like the Nakamichi set had a set of switches for an in phase and out of phase operation and for customizing the amount of db fom -3 to 0 to +3. Overall in a higher end sound system where the subwoofer in the back handles the bass one would want the tweeter aimed so that the higher frequencies would be heard clearly not just loud the defined bass in the back.
About Amplification. Amplifiers are not necessary for components, or coaxials. however aftermarker speakers, such as kenwood, Infinity, MB's and all the rest (pyramid and the like excluded) typically need more power to sound better than your head unit can provide (ie. pioneer's HUs provide 22.5W RMS ,50 peak) that is enough to power them but it is not enough to hear them loud. Therefore amplification is needed to give the speakers more juice and at the same time good amplifiers like Rockford Fosgate and Alpine reproduce clear signals at like 0.00001% THD without causing distortion, heard when you turn your HU to the max. (this is what makes them better than the afore-mentioned crappy pyramid and the like gear -- no distortion at higher voltage)
This should have explained a few things. To an Audiphile this is the key and the reason for building a killer system.
My advice: Start saving money.
As far as components vs. coaxials are concerned: coaxials are tailored more toward a one piece design which components allow you to position the speaker and the tweeter and tune the sound better with the crossover specifically tailored to the set of midrange woofer and tweeter. Some crossovers like the Nakamichi set had a set of switches for an in phase and out of phase operation and for customizing the amount of db fom -3 to 0 to +3. Overall in a higher end sound system where the subwoofer in the back handles the bass one would want the tweeter aimed so that the higher frequencies would be heard clearly not just loud the defined bass in the back.
About Amplification. Amplifiers are not necessary for components, or coaxials. however aftermarker speakers, such as kenwood, Infinity, MB's and all the rest (pyramid and the like excluded) typically need more power to sound better than your head unit can provide (ie. pioneer's HUs provide 22.5W RMS ,50 peak) that is enough to power them but it is not enough to hear them loud. Therefore amplification is needed to give the speakers more juice and at the same time good amplifiers like Rockford Fosgate and Alpine reproduce clear signals at like 0.00001% THD without causing distortion, heard when you turn your HU to the max. (this is what makes them better than the afore-mentioned crappy pyramid and the like gear -- no distortion at higher voltage)
This should have explained a few things. To an Audiphile this is the key and the reason for building a killer system.
My advice: Start saving money.
Originally posted by vipervadim
Component Speakers. i will have to say that Focals are nice, but MB Quarts have a greater refined reputation in the Mobile Audio community and IASCA competitions. Nakamichi also makes a great set of components which are friendly with the wallet, and are in my opinion the best bang for the buck compared with the cheaper mb's. All it rolls down to is how much you're willing to spend and your specific musical tastes.
As far as components vs. coaxials are concerned: coaxials are tailored more toward a one piece design which components allow you to position the speaker and the tweeter and tune the sound better with the crossover specifically tailored to the set of midrange woofer and tweeter. Some crossovers like the Nakamichi set had a set of switches for an in phase and out of phase operation and for customizing the amount of db fom -3 to 0 to +3. Overall in a higher end sound system where the subwoofer in the back handles the bass one would want the tweeter aimed so that the higher frequencies would be heard clearly not just loud the defined bass in the back.
About Amplification. Amplifiers are not necessary for components, or coaxials. however aftermarker speakers, such as kenwood, Infinity, MB's and all the rest (pyramid and the like excluded) typically need more power to sound better than your head unit can provide (ie. pioneer's HUs provide 22.5W RMS ,50 peak) that is enough to power them but it is not enough to hear them loud. Therefore amplification is needed to give the speakers more juice and at the same time good amplifiers like Rockford Fosgate and Alpine reproduce clear signals at like 0.00001% THD without causing distortion, heard when you turn your HU to the max. (this is what makes them better than the afore-mentioned crappy pyramid and the like gear -- no distortion at higher voltage)
This should have explained a few things. To an Audiphile this is the key and the reason for building a killer system.
My advice: Start saving money.
Component Speakers. i will have to say that Focals are nice, but MB Quarts have a greater refined reputation in the Mobile Audio community and IASCA competitions. Nakamichi also makes a great set of components which are friendly with the wallet, and are in my opinion the best bang for the buck compared with the cheaper mb's. All it rolls down to is how much you're willing to spend and your specific musical tastes.
As far as components vs. coaxials are concerned: coaxials are tailored more toward a one piece design which components allow you to position the speaker and the tweeter and tune the sound better with the crossover specifically tailored to the set of midrange woofer and tweeter. Some crossovers like the Nakamichi set had a set of switches for an in phase and out of phase operation and for customizing the amount of db fom -3 to 0 to +3. Overall in a higher end sound system where the subwoofer in the back handles the bass one would want the tweeter aimed so that the higher frequencies would be heard clearly not just loud the defined bass in the back.
About Amplification. Amplifiers are not necessary for components, or coaxials. however aftermarker speakers, such as kenwood, Infinity, MB's and all the rest (pyramid and the like excluded) typically need more power to sound better than your head unit can provide (ie. pioneer's HUs provide 22.5W RMS ,50 peak) that is enough to power them but it is not enough to hear them loud. Therefore amplification is needed to give the speakers more juice and at the same time good amplifiers like Rockford Fosgate and Alpine reproduce clear signals at like 0.00001% THD without causing distortion, heard when you turn your HU to the max. (this is what makes them better than the afore-mentioned crappy pyramid and the like gear -- no distortion at higher voltage)
This should have explained a few things. To an Audiphile this is the key and the reason for building a killer system.
My advice: Start saving money.
very well said viper....audition,audition and then audition again...several different lines to get a taste of likings..if at all possible, in a "car"....speakers are something you can get "advice" about, but you really need to determine what you like...300$ components aren't a "big loss" if you don't like them, but, if you were to go and buy a pair of rainbow's, utopias, or dyn's off of someone elses taste your out some serious cash...just get a flavor in a store or go to some shows in your area and see about listening to some cars there...granted, some are major ******, but some are very nice too..just say hey, I see you have such in such in your car, they don't sell them where I live..any chances you would have the time for me to listen to yours or something like that...they may say get lost, then again, they may say hop in...change i.m. names and be buddies for life...
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