http://www.big-boys.com/articles/badredcar.html

 

goes to show, once again, that the guys who can't drive go to the drag strip, and the guys who can drive go to the auto-x/road course

(shameless plug for this particular forum)

 

noted....

 

Aw cmon! That guy is obviously an awesome driver! No way that's too much car for him!!!

 

I just love how he pumps his arm as he is being driven away on the flatbed....what a

 

What a retard. He's proud he wrecked his Ferrari?

 

What's really awesome is that since it's on video, his insurance company will find it and f**k him. He will have to pay that repair bill out of pocket
What WOULD be funny if he rented the car.
I would have loved to be on that track in the other lane, I could forever tell the story about beating an idiot in a new ferrari with my 97 maxima, that would be priceless.

 

Hey ammi-

Always choose the lesser of two weevils

 

Notice how he doesn't let off the throttle until AFTER he crashes in to the wall. Most people would let off the gas to regain grip/control but no he keeps the pedal to the metal...this guy dunt know how to launch his car. What a dumbass...

 

That wasn't a drag event. If you see the beginning of the video is was a sort of a burnout contest. And that ferrari isn't exactly a torque monster so i doubt it could even keep spinning through 2nd.

 

I doubt it was a burnout contest. It looks like it was a 1/4 mile time trial. One car at a time. The beginning of the video shows the driver of the Ferrari trying to launch while keeping the nose pointed straight down the track. You can see him turning the wheel trying to keep the rear end from coming around. If he was trying to burnout he would hardly move if at all while smoke just pours and pours from the rear tires.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks to be a late model 200X Ferrari 360. According to edmunds.com, it came with a 3.6L V8 engine which produced:
425hp @ 8500 RPM and 275 ft-lbs torque @ 4750 RPM with a curb weight of just over 2800 lbs. It may not be a torque monster but thats plenty of torque to keep the tires spinning through 2nd. From the start he never really hooks up properly which causes him to eventually lose control and crash.

 

It's still great to see stupid people with money. I still wonder if he rented that car, that would be hilarious if he paid the extra insurance, so he's liable for nothing. Maybe he's a big Porsche fan and decided one less Ferrari is a good thing. Nah, I doubt it, he's just a dumba$$.

 

I've seen the beginning of that video and there were two cars that went down the track before him. That was a burnout contest except the point was to keep the tires spinning all the way down the track. You need mega torque for that. He was purposely trying to spin the tires.

 

Well if that's the history of the video, it makes more sense now. I still don't understand why he waited until he hit the wall before letting off the throttle. If he really wanted to prevent the crash he would of pushed in the clutch and slammed on the brakes. He didn't even attempt to stop. Maybe the car is just pocket change to him...

 

What a shame!!

 

That is interesting. Especially since the two best road course times at Speed Zone in Dallas were made by two people who are known only for drag racing. The road course/autox guys couldn't keep up.

 

Wow... Those guys should autocross

 

Indeed.
Hey E we still on for tomorrow? hit me up on the cell tonight.

 

I'll pass that along.

 

sweet stuff man

 

Is that all you ever post

 

I think this says more about this driver's ego (and wallet) being bigger than his skills... and not necessarily anything about drag-racing vs road-racing.

 

Thats not the full video. I will try to find it. I have it somewhere but it was a burnout show off kinda thing going on.

 

What his statement should read...

The guys whose car dont make enough power to keep up with the ones that do go to the autox to save face

 

Oh man, money does not equal brains. Sad.

 

That had already been established...............................:ahem:.. .............................

 

he musta had his eyes closed or something

 

Ah yeah your right though.

 

haha thats awsome

please post more

 

lol...

That's what the guys with fast cars say when they're outdriven by people with less power.

Straights are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers.

The drag strip separates the big blocks from the small blocks. Autocross separates the men from the boys.

All a matter of priorities, I guess.

 

FYI, youd get pwnt in either event by my car

 

Haha, and here's the guy with the fast car getting all defensive. Note the use of "my car" instead of "me".

More ammo for my fast-car-little-man theory. Thanks for taking the bait.

 

What is your fast-car-little-man theory?

 

It's really simple. A little man needs a fast car to make himself feel better. When he gets a fast car, he puts down others by saying his car is better than theirs because that's the only way in which he feels like he measures up. Talking like that reveals a little man because it's clear he wouldn't be able to keep up if he didn't have his car, and he depends on his car for some measure of self-esteem among people who are better drivers, better tuners, and happier people.

When someone even indirectly puts down the little man's car, or even the whole principle of owning a fast car, the little man will instantly leap to its defense, even if no direct jab was made. On the other hand, a big man, even one with a fast car, would let all this pass beneath him, or at most make calm, educated remarks in response.

Before anyone flames me, I'm not jabbing at drag racers, because the best ones are people who love what they do and tune their cars with all they've got. I'm talking about some people here <ahem...> who just buy a car that's fast from the factory, or take their car to someone else's shop and pour money into it, and then claim that they are now better than others.

 

Yeah, that's why i just brush things off and let them slide. But there's a limit to that too.
No need for this guy to get all defensive and butt hurt.

 

Very true. What's the fun in driving around a parking lot screeching around cones in 1st or 2nd gear! Road course shows the true skill and potential of man and machine.

 

about road course, but I think you're misinterpreting the point being made. He was putting down people with slow cars and saying autoX is for them.

AutoX is much more about the driver's skill than anything else. Drag is on the other end of the spectrum: it's mostly about the car. Road course is in the middle. As I said earlier, it's all about priorities. IMO, no one should disparage any of these forms of racing.

 

WTF, road racing would have to be at the top. It takes the most skill of any driving event.
AutoX IS for people with slow cars to go play around in a parking lot. At least in drag racing you have to know how to get a good launch, an possibly control a car with outrageous power to keep it straight.

 

I see what you're saying, and I agree -- road racing requires the most well-rounded driving abilities, as well as the best ability to use the car. What I was saying was not how much skill each type of racing takes, but how much focus is placed on skill. I still don't agree that autoX is for slow cars (tell that to the folks with M3s and twin-charged Minis and the like), but I was making the point that the driver's skill is far more important in that kind of racing because in most cases, it's the biggest thing -- and often the only thing -- that makes a difference.

Here's a summary of what I'm saying (hope this is more clear):

- Drag racing: The right car can cover for almost any inept driver (e.g. an AWD auto with launch control, massive power, and huge freakin' tires).
- Road course: The right car can only partially cover for bad driving.
- AutoX: If you can't drive, there's no escape, no matter what kind of car you have.

Don't forget, there are extremely few straights in autoX, and what straights there are are very short. It's almost all corners, with no time for your car to settle from one corner to the next. That means there's no room to fudge things, and no room to just let your car catch you up if you make a mistake. If you don't pick your lines and time everyting extremely intelligently, you're just screwed.

 

Actually, you are incorrect. The original statement was a little flame for Irish..we do that to each other. Also, I am guessing you have never competed in any sort of an event. Autocrossing is as much to do with the car and driver as either of the other two. I do all 3 (road, drag, auto) and all 3 require a different skill set. Drag racing requires skill in traction management (stall speed or clutch takeup depending on what kind of car you drive), an understanding of your particular vehicles power curves (where is peak power made, where does each gear land you, etc...), and stellar shifting skill (if you happen to race a manual). Autocrossing is all about building a balanced car that is set up to maximize lateral grip and stability while retaining ultimate responsiveness for a short period of time (usually under one minute). The driver skill comes into play with regards to smoothness of inputs and course knowledge. Road racing is similar, except that the suspension setups and tire choices are for long distances so that the car will remain consistent throughout the race. Shifting skill is important here too, in that one must be able to match revs and make lightning upchanges all while being subjected to pressure from other cars and/or braking G forces.