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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Because some people know the truth about what happened
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Don doesn't lie to customers, customers are the oens that like playing games and trying to screw Don instead of going by the agreement he has.
Btw, Don does this on the side, he has a life and a real job. He often doesn't get back to me either since he is out of town alot.
I have known him since 1996...he is a good guy.
Because some people know the truth about what happened
.Don doesn't lie to customers, customers are the oens that like playing games and trying to screw Don instead of going by the agreement he has.
Btw, Don does this on the side, he has a life and a real job. He often doesn't get back to me either since he is out of town alot.
I have known him since 1996...he is a good guy.

I realize he may be out of town alot. He may be an otherwise good guy. He may be alot of things. But he DID ignore my problem with his product and he DID lie about me afterwards.
I didnt expect too much from him. I know All I expected was the much praised VB. What did I get? A slower than stock 1-2 shift, lies, and a year of headaches.
I havent and wont personally attack him, but I will give my opinion on his dealings with me and my situation.
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Originally posted by James12345
Don shares his business dealings with others? Hmm, that's good info for possible future customers of his. Also, are you calling me a liar?
I realize he may be out of town alot. He may be an otherwise good guy. He may be alot of things. But he DID ignore my problem with his product and he DID lie about me afterwards.
I didnt expect too much from him. I know All I expected was the much praised VB. What did I get? A slower than stock 1-2 shift, lies, and a year of headaches.
I havent and wont personally attack him, but I will give my opinion on his dealings with me and my situation.
Don shares his business dealings with others? Hmm, that's good info for possible future customers of his. Also, are you calling me a liar?

I realize he may be out of town alot. He may be an otherwise good guy. He may be alot of things. But he DID ignore my problem with his product and he DID lie about me afterwards.
I didnt expect too much from him. I know All I expected was the much praised VB. What did I get? A slower than stock 1-2 shift, lies, and a year of headaches.
I havent and wont personally attack him, but I will give my opinion on his dealings with me and my situation.
What lies? I saw explanations on installation that can cause the problem, it wasn't his vb, it was the install.
He has 100s of happy customers, and you are just one of a few that don't seem to think so because umm it was something you did wrong that you think DON should fix. lol
Originally posted by Aaron92SE
I'm sure Don might be a good guy. But, he's a pain to do business with. I have been dealing with him for 2 and a half months now and it's been full of headaches. I will be posting a full review with nonbiased information within the next week.
I'm sure Don might be a good guy. But, he's a pain to do business with. I have been dealing with him for 2 and a half months now and it's been full of headaches. I will be posting a full review with nonbiased information within the next week.
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Because some people know the truth about what happened
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Don doesn't lie to customers, customers are the oens that like playing games and trying to screw Don instead of going by the agreement he has.
Btw, Don does this on the side, he has a life and a real job. He often doesn't get back to me either since he is out of town alot.
I have known him since 1996...he is a good guy.
Because some people know the truth about what happened
.Don doesn't lie to customers, customers are the oens that like playing games and trying to screw Don instead of going by the agreement he has.
Btw, Don does this on the side, he has a life and a real job. He often doesn't get back to me either since he is out of town alot.
I have known him since 1996...he is a good guy.
You should really stay out of this. Theres no way in hell Ssiperko was playing games with Don. Only a fool would think that.. maybe if you read everything from the beginning and knew it all, you wouldnt be making such dumb statements
Don giving Ssiperko back his 450 dollars was the right thing to do yes, but it was not right, in how the situation was handled by Don, and how long it took to do so..
Once again, you didnt become involved in these posts till 6 months down the road, so you thrwing in your comments is not needed
Dont you think that future customers should know bout these incidents?? Answer that question please, and dont bother replying if you will not respond to it
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Originally posted by Stillmatic
You should really stay out of this. Theres no way in hell Ssiperko was playing games with Don. Only a fool would think that.. maybe if you read everything from the beginning and knew it all, you wouldnt be making such dumb statements
Don giving Ssiperko back his 450 dollars was the right thing to do yes, but it was not right, in how the situation was handled by Don, and how long it took to do so..
Once again, you didnt become involved in these posts till 6 months down the road, so you thrwing in your comments is not needed
Dont you think that future customers should know bout these incidents?? Answer that question please, and dont bother replying if you will not respond to it
You should really stay out of this. Theres no way in hell Ssiperko was playing games with Don. Only a fool would think that.. maybe if you read everything from the beginning and knew it all, you wouldnt be making such dumb statements
Don giving Ssiperko back his 450 dollars was the right thing to do yes, but it was not right, in how the situation was handled by Don, and how long it took to do so..
Once again, you didnt become involved in these posts till 6 months down the road, so you thrwing in your comments is not needed
Dont you think that future customers should know bout these incidents?? Answer that question please, and dont bother replying if you will not respond to it
Like Don explained above, answers the issue with Arron in detail. Don went out of HIS WAY to help Aaron when he wasn;'t even a customer!
WOW! that is #1 in customer service in my book. But see, he thinks because he has a problem its the vb when its not, its his car. But he wants to blame DON. Like I said, the installation is the problem and the person installing it. Not DON or his VB 98% OF THE TIME.
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
No, because half of the people on here don't know the truth.
Like Don explained above, answers the issue with Arron in detail. Don went out of HIS WAY to help Aaron when he wasn;'t even a customer!
WOW! that is #1 in customer service in my book. But see, he thinks because he has a problem its the vb when its not, its his car. But he wants to blame DON. Like I said, the installation is the problem and the person installing it. Not DON or his VB 98% OF THE TIME.
No, because half of the people on here don't know the truth.
Like Don explained above, answers the issue with Arron in detail. Don went out of HIS WAY to help Aaron when he wasn;'t even a customer!
WOW! that is #1 in customer service in my book. But see, he thinks because he has a problem its the vb when its not, its his car. But he wants to blame DON. Like I said, the installation is the problem and the person installing it. Not DON or his VB 98% OF THE TIME.
Russ, im not familar with Aarons problem, im talking bout a whole other situation, which one would assume you would be able to tell by reading my post....
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Originally posted by Stillmatic
Russ, im not familar with Aarons problem, im talking bout a whole other situation, which one would assume you would be able to tell by reading my post....
Russ, im not familar with Aarons problem, im talking bout a whole other situation, which one would assume you would be able to tell by reading my post....
Originally posted by James12345
But he DID ignore my problem with his product and he DID lie about me afterwards.
But he DID ignore my problem with his product and he DID lie about me afterwards.
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Installation can cause problems which is usually the cause. slower than 1-2 shift. lol..thats a first.
Installation can cause problems which is usually the cause. slower than 1-2 shift. lol..thats a first.
What lies?
I saw explanations on installation that can cause the problem, it wasn't his vb, it was the install.
He has 100s of happy customers, and you are just one of a few that don't seem to think so because umm it was something you did wrong that you think DON should fix. lol
Dude you have NO clue about my specific case. I'll post details in a few days about all this, till then I'll let you talk your smack.
And Russ, like you said, half the people dont know the 'truth'. Half the people = you, so STFU. Quit making dumb statements when you dont know my or Aarons case/complaint/story.
And Don, I'm James92se. I got locked out of my original account. Dont let the new name and join date fool you.
Originally posted by James12345
And Don, I'm James92se. I got locked out of my original account. Dont let the new name and join date fool you.
And Don, I'm James92se. I got locked out of my original account. Dont let the new name and join date fool you.
You're the guy that Aaron bought that old VB from in September 2002. And a year later, we rebuilt it for him at no charge. What about it?
Originally posted by Don in Texas
Ok, this is Jim Harrison. You installed the VB from us in November, 2001. In December (6th) 2001, you told me you had a problem we asked you to send it in, you never did. In August of 2002, you emailed us again telling us you sold it to someone else.
You're the guy that Aaron bought that old VB from in September 2002. And a year later, we rebuilt it for him at no charge. What about it?
Ok, this is Jim Harrison. You installed the VB from us in November, 2001. In December (6th) 2001, you told me you had a problem we asked you to send it in, you never did. In August of 2002, you emailed us again telling us you sold it to someone else.
You're the guy that Aaron bought that old VB from in September 2002. And a year later, we rebuilt it for him at no charge. What about it?
You NEVER told me to send it back in (that's the whole problem!!). I told you repeatedly of the problem and you kept blaming it on me. You blamed my transmission, my installation, lack of fluid, blah blah. I even ASKED you if I could send it back in. You straight up ignored me, then told Aaron that you asked me to send it back in and I didnt in hopes of trying to cleanse yourself of the bad VB.
I have all my e-mail correspondance with you Mr. Don. Dont lie. You got some ***** man sitting here lying.
Do you see the whole point? The fact that YOUR VB had the same malfunctions in 2 different Maxima's with your VB being the only constant proves that YOUR VB, in fact, was the problem and not my transmission or my installation.
Once you realized this, you tried defer blame on me by making up your story about offering to fix it and in essence, wash your hands so to speak of the VB.
Russ I wasnt actually 'locked out' of my original account, there was a problem with my validation link when I changed e-mail addresses. I was never sent a link, therefore, cant post. Comprende?
Originally posted by James12345
You're correct that I'm James Harrison. You're also lying.
You NEVER told me to send it back in (that's the whole problem!!)..... I have all my e-mail correspondance with you Mr. Don. Dont lie. You got some ***** man sitting here lying.
You're correct that I'm James Harrison. You're also lying.
You NEVER told me to send it back in (that's the whole problem!!)..... I have all my e-mail correspondance with you Mr. Don. Dont lie. You got some ***** man sitting here lying.
"the 1-2 take the brunt of the power. I've always seem them go first. Give it some time, and re-check your fluid (level ground). We'll figure it out. There is no "variable", so if it doesn't sharpen up, its probably the clutch.
Lemme know
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@logical-approach.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:48 AM
To: D Cooper
Subject: RE: Don...
Hmm. Why would the 1-2 clutches be bad, and the other clutches not be bad? Do the 1-2 clutches wear out faster or
anything like that? I'd assume that if any were bad, it'd be the 3rd gear clutches, since that would be in the biggest
powerband. And yeah, there's no way I'm confusing the 1-2 shift with the 2-3. I talked to another VE auto guy that had the
VB mod done, and he said that I should give it some time too, to let everything get circulated, settled, etc. He doesnt have
the same problem I do, but then again he had his tranny freshly rebuilt along with his VB. What do you suggest if it doesnt
ever "settle"? I assume there would be nothing you could do, since there is no variable or whatever. Like if I sent it back to
you, no change could be made to "fix" the 1-2 shift? I guess live with it or rebuild?
-James
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 23:09:38 -0600, D Cooper wrote:
>well, unless you are low on fluid, or your 1-2 clutches are borderline
>bad, there should be a significant change in the 1-2 shift.
>
>there is no variable, in-fact, the way I set it up, I thought that the
>1-2 might be a little harder than what you might want.
>
>Give it some time, let it all get circulated, but normally there is no
>break-in or anything.
>
>Are you sure you aren't confusing the 1-2 with the 2-3? There is only 2
>shifts to be made, the 3-4 is electronic.
>
>Don
Jim Harrison
jim@logical-approach.com
Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant.
And after that, all I got was in AUGUST of 2002! telling me you sold it to someone else........9 months you didn't email me about anything. Why would I lie, not offer to rebuild it, then rebuild it for free to the guy you sold it to? gimme a ****** break.
Don you may wanna restate your facts there about the timeline.
I didnt even recieve your VB until December 5th, 2001 and e-mailed you the same day.
I'm glad you posted that. Show me where you asked me to send it back in, Don. It's shown there where I asked if I could send it back and have you check it, and you ignored it.
That e-mail about you blaming my clutch was the last I got from you. I e-mailed you numerous times after that with no response. Thinking back I should've saved all my sent mail.
I'm sure my whole sending you e-mails with no reply wont be too hard to these fellows to believe. You seem to be infamous for ignoring people.
What dont you get? You DIDNT offer to re-check mine or rebuild it even when I asked you. You then ignored me for months and only agreed to look at it again when it was proved that YOUR VB was in fact the problem.
Also, that's some nice e-mail tampering on your part. That whole 'lemme know' in your latest e-mail suddenly appears now? That's weird. I dont have that on my original. WTF man?
I didnt even recieve your VB until December 5th, 2001 and e-mailed you the same day.
I'm glad you posted that. Show me where you asked me to send it back in, Don. It's shown there where I asked if I could send it back and have you check it, and you ignored it.
That e-mail about you blaming my clutch was the last I got from you. I e-mailed you numerous times after that with no response. Thinking back I should've saved all my sent mail.
I'm sure my whole sending you e-mails with no reply wont be too hard to these fellows to believe. You seem to be infamous for ignoring people.
What dont you get? You DIDNT offer to re-check mine or rebuild it even when I asked you. You then ignored me for months and only agreed to look at it again when it was proved that YOUR VB was in fact the problem.
Also, that's some nice e-mail tampering on your part. That whole 'lemme know' in your latest e-mail suddenly appears now? That's weird. I dont have that on my original. WTF man?
Originally posted by James12345
On a continuation of your e-mail tampering....
You also added in the 'we'll figure it out' on the latest e-mail too.
Wow. Didnt know you'd do THIS.
On a continuation of your e-mail tampering....
You also added in the 'we'll figure it out' on the latest e-mail too.
Wow. Didnt know you'd do THIS.
It wouldn't matter to me if you sent it, or if he sent it, we rebuilt it anyway. You'll also remember I had to PM you because a lot of your emails were coming back returned? Thats all the emails I have from you.
Originally posted by Don in Texas
hehe, I always say lemme know....If I was ignoring you, and refused to rebuild it or check it out for you, why did I do it for Aaron (the guy you sold it to)? Why would I do that? If I was trying to ignore you, or not take care of it, I wouldn't have done it for Aaron....all he did was email me and ask to have it checked out. Simple. Don't blame me for your lack of communications, I can't help you type.
It wouldn't matter to me if you sent it, or if he sent it, we rebuilt it anyway. You'll also remember I had to PM you because a lot of your emails were coming back returned? Thats all the emails I have from you.
hehe, I always say lemme know....If I was ignoring you, and refused to rebuild it or check it out for you, why did I do it for Aaron (the guy you sold it to)? Why would I do that? If I was trying to ignore you, or not take care of it, I wouldn't have done it for Aaron....all he did was email me and ask to have it checked out. Simple. Don't blame me for your lack of communications, I can't help you type.
It wouldn't matter to me if you sent it, or if he sent it, we rebuilt it anyway. You'll also remember I had to PM you because a lot of your emails were coming back returned? Thats all the emails I have from you.
I dont know why you'd ignore me. I dont know why you do it to anyone. You seem to have this history of doing that to unhappy customers. You're KNOWN for that.
Like I said earlier, the only reason you did it for Aaron was because we pretty much proved it was your VB that was the problem with it being the only constant and all. You pretty much had to.
You didnt do it for me because you hid behind the whole your transmission is messed up defense. Once it was proved it was your VB, you had no other arguments left. I believe I already explained this...
The e-mails you got returned from me was much much later down the line. Not initially.
Originally posted by James12345
Yeah you might always say 'lemme know', but you for darn sure didnt say that or the 'we'll figure it out' in the original e-mail. You went back and added those in for some reason. Probably in an attempt to make yourself look more helpful. I dunno wtf you're thinking doing that.
I dont know why you'd ignore me. I dont know why you do it to anyone. You seem to have this history of doing that to unhappy customers. You're KNOWN for that.
Like I said earlier, the only reason you did it for Aaron was because we pretty much proved it was your VB that was the problem with it being the only constant and all. You pretty much had to.
You didnt do it for me because you hid behind the whole your transmission is messed up defense. Once it was proved it was your VB, you had no other arguments left. I believe I already explained this...
The e-mails you got returned from me was much much later down the line. Not initially.
Yeah you might always say 'lemme know', but you for darn sure didnt say that or the 'we'll figure it out' in the original e-mail. You went back and added those in for some reason. Probably in an attempt to make yourself look more helpful. I dunno wtf you're thinking doing that.
I dont know why you'd ignore me. I dont know why you do it to anyone. You seem to have this history of doing that to unhappy customers. You're KNOWN for that.
Like I said earlier, the only reason you did it for Aaron was because we pretty much proved it was your VB that was the problem with it being the only constant and all. You pretty much had to.
You didnt do it for me because you hid behind the whole your transmission is messed up defense. Once it was proved it was your VB, you had no other arguments left. I believe I already explained this...
The e-mails you got returned from me was much much later down the line. Not initially.
Originally posted by Don in Texas
whatever. I'm not hiding behind anything. keep typing BS, if it makes you feel better. I've had a FEW customers that have actually had a problem and not tried to blame me, but those are few and far between. Its easier for someone to claim "I'm not new, I'm a professional, but can't even get the harness off the car"....think what you want.
whatever. I'm not hiding behind anything. keep typing BS, if it makes you feel better. I've had a FEW customers that have actually had a problem and not tried to blame me, but those are few and far between. Its easier for someone to claim "I'm not new, I'm a professional, but can't even get the harness off the car"....think what you want.
So what exactly was BS in my previous post or any of my posts in this thread concering you for that matter?
I think I've proved my case quite well and I'm sure any logical thinking person would agree.
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Originally posted by James12345
On a continuation of your e-mail tampering....
You also added in the 'we'll figure it out' on the latest e-mail too.
Wow. Didnt know you'd do THIS.
On a continuation of your e-mail tampering....
You also added in the 'we'll figure it out' on the latest e-mail too.
Wow. Didnt know you'd do THIS.
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Originally posted by James12345
So what exactly was BS in my previous post or any of my posts in this thread concering you for that matter?
I think I've proved my case quite well and I'm sure any logical thinking person would agree.
So what exactly was BS in my previous post or any of my posts in this thread concering you for that matter?
I think I've proved my case quite well and I'm sure any logical thinking person would agree.
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Don forward the emails to me so I can see if there really is tampering. This guy si making up a bunch of ****.
Don forward the emails to me so I can see if there really is tampering. This guy si making up a bunch of ****.
Are you a third party Certification Authority or something?
Someone so emotionally involved has to note that the believability factor is reduced.
Originally posted by James12345
Wait, I thought you knew the 'truth'? Awww man now I'm disappointed in you!
Wait, I thought you knew the 'truth'? Awww man now I'm disappointed in you!

Russ, I think this is between James/Aaron and Don. I know you're trying to vouch for Don's character but that doesn't change anything. I can vouch for James' too, but that also wouldn't help. So how bout we both stay out of it?
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but it's between them
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Originally posted by «§»Craig B«§»
you want the truth? YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
Russ, I think this is between James/Aaron and Don. I know you're trying to vouch for Don's character but that doesn't change anything. I can vouch for James' too, but that also wouldn't help. So how bout we both stay out of it?
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but it's between them
you want the truth? YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH

Russ, I think this is between James/Aaron and Don. I know you're trying to vouch for Don's character but that doesn't change anything. I can vouch for James' too, but that also wouldn't help. So how bout we both stay out of it?
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but it's between them
Originally posted by «§»Craig B«§»
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but it's between them
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but it's between them
Let the INVOLVED sort this issue out.
-Jacob
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
So far you have spewed more BS than anything when he PROVED you are wrong big time. The emails are on his machine and can not be edited unless they are copy and pasted somewhere else. So maybe YOU were having email problems thinking DON was ignoring you when he REALLY wasn't. That is possible right? Don't deny it either. Don takes care of all his customers, and you are just one guy that is all ****Y and crying like a little baby.
So far you have spewed more BS than anything when he PROVED you are wrong big time. The emails are on his machine and can not be edited unless they are copy and pasted somewhere else. So maybe YOU were having email problems thinking DON was ignoring you when he REALLY wasn't. That is possible right? Don't deny it either. Don takes care of all his customers, and you are just one guy that is all ****Y and crying like a little baby.
I'm aware the e-mails on his machine cant be edited unless they are copy and pasted somewhere else....as in COPYING AND PASTING INTO A TEXT BOX ON MAXIMA.ORG. DUH.
Sheesh. I would have NO reason to make up Don's little e-mail tampering bit. And if I was to just make that up I'd accuse him of more than the little things he changed. Like I said, he obviously did that in an attempt to look more helpful/friendly and I understand there's no way I can prove that. But I think any normal person would believe I would have NO reason to just make that up. I'm not some idiot noob who's just gonna make stuff up to start hell.
I'd also like you to show me where Don proved me wrong. Don has a history of ignoring unhappy customers, and I dont think there's any defense or blaming it on me for that matter. Just about anyone knows that about Don. Heck he even ignored Aaron.
Why in the WORLD would I refuse to get my VB fixed from him if he really offered?
Remember, Don still never showed in e-mail where he asked me to send it back in. Funny how he just ignores stuff he has no answer to.
Originally posted by James12345
Sheesh. I would have NO reason to make up Don's little e-mail tampering bit. And if I was to just make that up I'd accuse him of more than the little things he changed. Like I said, he obviously did that in an attempt to look more helpful/friendly and I understand there's no way I can prove that. But I think any normal person would believe I would have NO reason to just make that up. I'm not some idiot noob who's just gonna make stuff up to start hell.
Sheesh. I would have NO reason to make up Don's little e-mail tampering bit. And if I was to just make that up I'd accuse him of more than the little things he changed. Like I said, he obviously did that in an attempt to look more helpful/friendly and I understand there's no way I can prove that. But I think any normal person would believe I would have NO reason to just make that up. I'm not some idiot noob who's just gonna make stuff up to start hell.
That's what sickens me. First, no such "personal" e-mail exchanges could be listed here at all due to privacy. Now, only certain, controlled e-mails can be published. No responses and half-truths cast great doubt on Don's character. But I'm sure it will be my fault in the end.
I'm still no happy how Russ is being taken advantage of and is fighting for Don, but that's another issue entirely.
Originally posted by Jer
Okay I'm gonna go out on a limb here and start a mini flaming war, please don't get angry with me
Don in Texas = X
Okay I'm gonna go out on a limb here and start a mini flaming war, please don't get angry with me

Don in Texas = X
I just want our members to be dealt with in a straightforward manner and to use this forum for recourse when there are issues. It allows both sides to portray their view of things.
I'm disappointed that information is being witheld and/or modified and that leads to conclusions that don't cast a positive light. I just wanted Don to explain what happened and what steps he was going to take in the future so such issues aren't repeated.
Everyone,
I feel the need to bring this important news to your attention. Maximum Tuning is the bomb! I sent in my VB to them for repair b/c Don couldn't fix my problem. They found the problem and sent it back to me. Just an hour ago, I installed the Maximum Tuning valve body and tested it out. IT'S AWESOME. The 1-2 shift finally works great.
Don... just so you know... it was NOT my tranny causing the problem. It was your VB that caused the terrible shift.
I feel the need to bring this important news to your attention. Maximum Tuning is the bomb! I sent in my VB to them for repair b/c Don couldn't fix my problem. They found the problem and sent it back to me. Just an hour ago, I installed the Maximum Tuning valve body and tested it out. IT'S AWESOME. The 1-2 shift finally works great.
Don... just so you know... it was NOT my tranny causing the problem. It was your VB that caused the terrible shift.
Originally posted by Aaron92SE
Everyone,
I feel the need to bring this important news to your attention. Maximum Tuning is the bomb! I sent in my VB to them for repair b/c Don couldn't fix my problem. They found the problem and sent it back to me. Just an hour ago, I installed the Maximum Tuning valve body and tested it out. IT'S AWESOME. The 1-2 shift finally works great.
Don... just so you know... it was NOT my tranny causing the problem. It was your VB that caused the terrible shift.
Everyone,
I feel the need to bring this important news to your attention. Maximum Tuning is the bomb! I sent in my VB to them for repair b/c Don couldn't fix my problem. They found the problem and sent it back to me. Just an hour ago, I installed the Maximum Tuning valve body and tested it out. IT'S AWESOME. The 1-2 shift finally works great.
Don... just so you know... it was NOT my tranny causing the problem. It was your VB that caused the terrible shift.
This is pretty much the end all of proof from our part that Don's work was in fact the problem (which we've been saying all along). Maximum Tuning FIXED what Don effed up and/or just didnt do.
Russ.
It's good to see this whole argument is over.
James, I feel your pain, given the current situation I'm in where a twit Nissan customising business is trying to sue me for importing a set of Nismo injectors which I ordered on their advice.
I know exactly how it feels to know what you believe to be true can be twisted by the business to make you look like the liar. In the end, we all learn - the hard way.
For those of you who have taken this VB debacle personally, shame on you. Yes, we all get heated, but it should only be when we are the ones involved, who have been hard done by.
Business is business. Character has NOTHING to do with this. Whether the dealer/businessman is arrogant, a butthole, whatever, while it plays its part, it's the end result that makes all the difference. State facts and facts alone, like we did see for a while there. But to try and bring character reference into the matter means nothing when the end result is still the same - worthless.
Don, as another individual who has a real job and runs a business on the side, I don't step into unchartered waters. Unless I can confidently take my transmission apart and rebuild it from scratch, there is no way I would even work on a component as complicated as a valve body! If you couldn't perform the service, you should never have taken it on. Maybe then you would have avoided the need for a refund that took longer than it did to receive the payment in the first place.
I have been in your position before, where someone has requested my services. In the end, if my time is limited and I can't be 100% sure that I can dedicate myself to the task, then I will simply not make a promise to the customer because I know I may not be able to keep it. If anything, the customer will respect you all the more for it, and who knows? He may even be prepared to wait, simply because you've exercised good business ethic. As long as you can compliment it with a working product (which evidently, is not something in your capabilities), then you have the makings of a good side-venture.
Sorry Don, but owing to your efforts with James' (now Aaron's) valve body, it's ironic where you have reached because I remember you once having some not-so-nice things to say about Level 10 and how the director Pat was lying about the use of custom Raybestos Blue clutches. Now the shoe is on the other foot. As you can see, karma is about.
Russ, going back on that character reference point I made earlier - while it's admirable to see you wanting to help out a friend, this is not the way to do it. Quite frankly, when it comes to business, I say let the customers talk. They are the only ones who can be truly impartial and hopefully, impersonal. Once it gets personal, the argument is already lost.
People let's not lose sight of what this forum is meant to be about. State facts, not personal attacks. Throwing about rude words doesn't do much for your own testimony, so if you're here to warn (or pass good recommendations to) prospective consumers, just tell it the way it is. I was quick to take my own advice a few months ago when my Nismo injector debacle started and upon asking in an Australian forum about other Nismo dealers, I did get a little heated (as I just got off the phone with the guy) and told people not to mention his business in their reply as I was currently having legal issues with the "arsehole". Having realised what I did (after about 5 mins), the first thing I did was edit the post. Why? Because as I said, it doesn't help the situation, and if anything, it can worsen it (legally speaking).
So next time you have a problem, be diplomatic. If someone has taken 6 months to refund payment for a service which was never provided in exchange for that payment, by all means make other people aware so they don't go through the same torment, but don't use the forum as your only tool to achieve the desired result. You people have the Better Business Bureau (I think it's called that). If it is of any assistance, then by all means use it!! Maybe then your 6 months can be significantly reduced?
My point is, this isn't a firing range and nobody here forms part of a firing squad. It's a place to forewarn and/or recommend. Don't lose sight of this. Losing sight is half the reason why I barely hang out here.
Wish me luck in my court case (if one actually comes about!)
James, I feel your pain, given the current situation I'm in where a twit Nissan customising business is trying to sue me for importing a set of Nismo injectors which I ordered on their advice.
I know exactly how it feels to know what you believe to be true can be twisted by the business to make you look like the liar. In the end, we all learn - the hard way.
For those of you who have taken this VB debacle personally, shame on you. Yes, we all get heated, but it should only be when we are the ones involved, who have been hard done by.
Business is business. Character has NOTHING to do with this. Whether the dealer/businessman is arrogant, a butthole, whatever, while it plays its part, it's the end result that makes all the difference. State facts and facts alone, like we did see for a while there. But to try and bring character reference into the matter means nothing when the end result is still the same - worthless.
Don, as another individual who has a real job and runs a business on the side, I don't step into unchartered waters. Unless I can confidently take my transmission apart and rebuild it from scratch, there is no way I would even work on a component as complicated as a valve body! If you couldn't perform the service, you should never have taken it on. Maybe then you would have avoided the need for a refund that took longer than it did to receive the payment in the first place.
I have been in your position before, where someone has requested my services. In the end, if my time is limited and I can't be 100% sure that I can dedicate myself to the task, then I will simply not make a promise to the customer because I know I may not be able to keep it. If anything, the customer will respect you all the more for it, and who knows? He may even be prepared to wait, simply because you've exercised good business ethic. As long as you can compliment it with a working product (which evidently, is not something in your capabilities), then you have the makings of a good side-venture.
Sorry Don, but owing to your efforts with James' (now Aaron's) valve body, it's ironic where you have reached because I remember you once having some not-so-nice things to say about Level 10 and how the director Pat was lying about the use of custom Raybestos Blue clutches. Now the shoe is on the other foot. As you can see, karma is about.
Russ, going back on that character reference point I made earlier - while it's admirable to see you wanting to help out a friend, this is not the way to do it. Quite frankly, when it comes to business, I say let the customers talk. They are the only ones who can be truly impartial and hopefully, impersonal. Once it gets personal, the argument is already lost.
People let's not lose sight of what this forum is meant to be about. State facts, not personal attacks. Throwing about rude words doesn't do much for your own testimony, so if you're here to warn (or pass good recommendations to) prospective consumers, just tell it the way it is. I was quick to take my own advice a few months ago when my Nismo injector debacle started and upon asking in an Australian forum about other Nismo dealers, I did get a little heated (as I just got off the phone with the guy) and told people not to mention his business in their reply as I was currently having legal issues with the "arsehole". Having realised what I did (after about 5 mins), the first thing I did was edit the post. Why? Because as I said, it doesn't help the situation, and if anything, it can worsen it (legally speaking).
So next time you have a problem, be diplomatic. If someone has taken 6 months to refund payment for a service which was never provided in exchange for that payment, by all means make other people aware so they don't go through the same torment, but don't use the forum as your only tool to achieve the desired result. You people have the Better Business Bureau (I think it's called that). If it is of any assistance, then by all means use it!! Maybe then your 6 months can be significantly reduced?
My point is, this isn't a firing range and nobody here forms part of a firing squad. It's a place to forewarn and/or recommend. Don't lose sight of this. Losing sight is half the reason why I barely hang out here.
Wish me luck in my court case (if one actually comes about!)




