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10-22-2002, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by pjalst
Is the TIG or the MIG Y really worth the wait? Are there any drawbacks to ordering the Aluminum Y? Doesn't seem like it's worth waiting 3 months for the ss.
Is the TIG or the MIG Y really worth the wait? Are there any drawbacks to ordering the Aluminum Y? Doesn't seem like it's worth waiting 3 months for the ss.
10-22-2002, 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by pjalst
Is the TIG or the MIG Y really worth the wait? Are there any drawbacks to ordering the Aluminum Y? Doesn't seem like it's worth waiting 3 months for the ss.
Is the TIG or the MIG Y really worth the wait? Are there any drawbacks to ordering the Aluminum Y? Doesn't seem like it's worth waiting 3 months for the ss.
10-22-2002, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Street Reeper
My aluminum came in about 4 weeks. I was really impressed at how light it was, and it was straighter than the stillen (which caused it to rub a little on the stock bracket, but that was easy to fix and I preffer it being straight for better flow) I doubt my car will out last the aluminum pipe, which is the big selling point for the SS. The aluminum is lighter making it easier to install, and it is less weight on your car. But it is all business, no flashy chrome, so if you want to show off the bottom of your car, then get the SS.
My aluminum came in about 4 weeks. I was really impressed at how light it was, and it was straighter than the stillen (which caused it to rub a little on the stock bracket, but that was easy to fix and I preffer it being straight for better flow) I doubt my car will out last the aluminum pipe, which is the big selling point for the SS. The aluminum is lighter making it easier to install, and it is less weight on your car. But it is all business, no flashy chrome, so if you want to show off the bottom of your car, then get the SS.
10-22-2002, 02:37 PM
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I just installed the 'Y' pipe, and it fit just fine. The car has stock intake ducting and a stock cat-back.
The car isn't really any louder than it was before, but it does seem to pull a little harder at the top of the rev range. There are also no 'strange' noises. (bees in a can)
The two nuts holding the Y-pipe to the converter were the largest obstacles. They did NOT want to come off. One nut rounded off, but luckily it was the lower one, and was easily reached with a set of Vice-Grips that did the job. I thought the other nut would round off or the stud would break, but it came off eventually. (I need a set of torches) Everything else went pretty easily. The manifold bolts and oxygen sensors came off easily.
I'll get the front section of the B-pipe fixed and get it on... and tend to the intake ducting shortly.
Good Luck!
The car isn't really any louder than it was before, but it does seem to pull a little harder at the top of the rev range. There are also no 'strange' noises. (bees in a can)
The two nuts holding the Y-pipe to the converter were the largest obstacles. They did NOT want to come off. One nut rounded off, but luckily it was the lower one, and was easily reached with a set of Vice-Grips that did the job. I thought the other nut would round off or the stud would break, but it came off eventually. (I need a set of torches) Everything else went pretty easily. The manifold bolts and oxygen sensors came off easily.
I'll get the front section of the B-pipe fixed and get it on... and tend to the intake ducting shortly.
Good Luck!
10-22-2002, 03:27 PM
#46
Hey guys..
Wow..didn't think when I started this thread that it would still be goin strong almost 4 weeks later.
Just as a note. I did talk to Dallas about a week and a half after my initial order and actually got my order 2 days later. 2 weeks total.
But I did order the Aluminum-Y pipe, so I guess thats why it came fairly quick.
I can honestly say after installing everything last Friday and then taking a nice 300mile weekend trip, it was well worth the wait.
It sounds exactly like stock at idle, but when you get on the road and give it some gas, it makes the nicest low rumbling sound til you get over 2k rpm. At higher rpms, it sounds just like stock. I can't tell the difference.
I'm happy.
Be patient and Good luck.
PS: I was gonna kill this thread but I guess I'll let it live a bit longer.
JP
Wow..didn't think when I started this thread that it would still be goin strong almost 4 weeks later.
Just as a note. I did talk to Dallas about a week and a half after my initial order and actually got my order 2 days later. 2 weeks total.
But I did order the Aluminum-Y pipe, so I guess thats why it came fairly quick.
I can honestly say after installing everything last Friday and then taking a nice 300mile weekend trip, it was well worth the wait.
It sounds exactly like stock at idle, but when you get on the road and give it some gas, it makes the nicest low rumbling sound til you get over 2k rpm. At higher rpms, it sounds just like stock. I can't tell the difference.
I'm happy.
Be patient and Good luck.PS: I was gonna kill this thread but I guess I'll let it live a bit longer.
JP
10-22-2002, 05:25 PM
#47
Originally posted by Street Reeper
Exactly my point, get the cheaper and lighter aluminum Y.
Exactly my point, get the cheaper and lighter aluminum Y.
10-22-2002, 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by JPMax
Hey guys..
Wow..didn't think when I started this thread that it would still be goin strong almost 4 weeks later.
Just as a note. I did talk to Dallas about a week and a half after my initial order and actually got my order 2 days later. 2 weeks total.
But I did order the Aluminum-Y pipe, so I guess thats why it came fairly quick.
I can honestly say after installing everything last Friday and then taking a nice 300mile weekend trip, it was well worth the wait.
It sounds exactly like stock at idle, but when you get on the road and give it some gas, it makes the nicest low rumbling sound til you get over 2k rpm. At higher rpms, it sounds just like stock. I can't tell the difference.
I'm happy. Be patient and Good luck.
PS: I was gonna kill this thread but I guess I'll let it live a bit longer.
JP
Hey guys..
Wow..didn't think when I started this thread that it would still be goin strong almost 4 weeks later.
Just as a note. I did talk to Dallas about a week and a half after my initial order and actually got my order 2 days later. 2 weeks total.
But I did order the Aluminum-Y pipe, so I guess thats why it came fairly quick.
I can honestly say after installing everything last Friday and then taking a nice 300mile weekend trip, it was well worth the wait.
It sounds exactly like stock at idle, but when you get on the road and give it some gas, it makes the nicest low rumbling sound til you get over 2k rpm. At higher rpms, it sounds just like stock. I can't tell the difference.
I'm happy.
Be patient and Good luck.PS: I was gonna kill this thread but I guess I'll let it live a bit longer.
JP
10-22-2002, 06:12 PM
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The pipes are made from aluminized steel, not aluminum. They will hold up just fine. Rust isn't really an issue, either. Aluminized steel pipe is very rust resistant... Plus, exhaust pipe rusts from the inside out. The Y-pipe stays really hot, so condensation is never really a problem. (water is a product of combustion) It's usually items such as mufflers and tailpipes that collect condensation and rot out over time. My 86' Pontiac Parisienne still has it's original Y-pipe, and it's still plenty solid... even though it's had a few mufflers replaced over the years. 
MIG welds are plenty strong for exhaust pipe, TIG is just prettier. Stainless will stay pretty over time, where aluminized might get a little surface rust... while staying plenty solid.
Good Luck!
MIG welds are plenty strong for exhaust pipe, TIG is just prettier. Stainless will stay pretty over time, where aluminized might get a little surface rust... while staying plenty solid.
Good Luck!
10-22-2002, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by n2oMike
The pipes are made from aluminized steel, not aluminum. They will hold up just fine. Rust isn't really an issue, either. Aluminized steel pipe is very rust resistant... Plus, exhaust pipe rusts from the inside out. The Y-pipe stays really hot, so condensation is never really a problem. (water is a product of combustion) It's usually items such as mufflers and tailpipes that collect condensation and rot out over time. My 86' Pontiac Parisienne still has it's original Y-pipe, and it's still plenty solid... even though it's had a few mufflers replaced over the years.
MIG welds are plenty strong for exhaust pipe, TIG is just prettier. Stainless will stay pretty over time, where aluminized might get a little surface rust... while staying plenty solid.
Good Luck!
The pipes are made from aluminized steel, not aluminum. They will hold up just fine. Rust isn't really an issue, either. Aluminized steel pipe is very rust resistant... Plus, exhaust pipe rusts from the inside out. The Y-pipe stays really hot, so condensation is never really a problem. (water is a product of combustion) It's usually items such as mufflers and tailpipes that collect condensation and rot out over time. My 86' Pontiac Parisienne still has it's original Y-pipe, and it's still plenty solid... even though it's had a few mufflers replaced over the years.
MIG welds are plenty strong for exhaust pipe, TIG is just prettier. Stainless will stay pretty over time, where aluminized might get a little surface rust... while staying plenty solid.
Good Luck!
(mixed emotions here!) Thanks
10-24-2002, 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by maximamoose
so, are you saying that it might just be better for me to cancel my ss order, and make it an aluminized steel pipes? I am worried if i were to do that, that I would wait another 2 or so weeks for that pipe (mixed emotions here!) Thanks
so, are you saying that it might just be better for me to cancel my ss order, and make it an aluminized steel pipes? I am worried if i were to do that, that I would wait another 2 or so weeks for that pipe
(mixed emotions here!) Thanks
10-25-2002, 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by Dysfunctional
yea,
i called them a day or two ago and i got the lady there (who is very nice by the way) and she said they should be almost caught up by the end of this week and the begining of next week so its closing in 
yea,
i called them a day or two ago and i got the lady there (who is very nice by the way) and she said they should be almost caught up by the end of this week and the begining of next week
so its closing in
10-26-2002, 04:18 PM
#54
one week turn-around ( I'm told )
Ordered my aluminized, mandrel bent, 3rd gen y-pipe last monday. Talked to the "nice lady" on Thurs. She said it was shipping out that afternoon. Should have it on Mon. or Tues. This may be setting a record for time if it's true. Just wanted to throw some hope out there. I'm looking forward to this!
10-26-2002, 07:54 PM
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Re: one week turn-around ( I'm told )
Originally posted by rzirker
Ordered my aluminized, mandrel bent, 3rd gen y-pipe last monday. Talked to the "nice lady" on Thurs. She said it was shipping out that afternoon. Should have it on Mon. or Tues. This may be setting a record for time if it's true. Just wanted to throw some hope out there. I'm looking forward to this!
Ordered my aluminized, mandrel bent, 3rd gen y-pipe last monday. Talked to the "nice lady" on Thurs. She said it was shipping out that afternoon. Should have it on Mon. or Tues. This may be setting a record for time if it's true. Just wanted to throw some hope out there. I'm looking forward to this!
10-26-2002, 10:27 PM
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I talked to lynn on friday. She said my order was just waiting on my b-pipe fix. This implies my aluminum Y is ready to go. She hoped to ship late friday or Monday. Only time will tell.
10-27-2002, 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
I talked to lynn on friday. She said my order was just waiting on my b-pipe fix. This implies my aluminum Y is ready to go. She hoped to ship late friday or Monday. Only time will tell.
I talked to lynn on friday. She said my order was just waiting on my b-pipe fix. This implies my aluminum Y is ready to go. She hoped to ship late friday or Monday. Only time will tell.
10-28-2002, 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by johnvt1111
agreed, i think i posted something similar a few days ago
agreed, i think i posted something similar a few days ago
10-29-2002, 07:41 AM
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I don't know why everyone thinks the SS Tig is a superior design. It's strictly for looks plus the stuff is expensive and is hard to get in the relatively small quantities they need therefore it's going to be a long wait. Alumninum is fine even in the salty climates. How do I know? I've owned the WSP non-mandrel alumninum pipe for over 1 year and I live in Kansas City wth salty winters. The pipe still looks new.
If you think the mandrel bent pipe performs better than non-mandrel, think again. We have a Max owner in KC that's does dyno testing for WSP and the non-mandrel pipe made 1hp less than the mandrel pipe. Don't blame WSP either, they even say the mandrel pipe really doesn't do much over the non-mandrel.
Dave
If you think the mandrel bent pipe performs better than non-mandrel, think again. We have a Max owner in KC that's does dyno testing for WSP and the non-mandrel pipe made 1hp less than the mandrel pipe. Don't blame WSP either, they even say the mandrel pipe really doesn't do much over the non-mandrel.
Dave
10-29-2002, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
I don't know why everyone thinks the SS Tig is a superior design. It's strictly for looks plus the stuff is expensive and is hard to get in the relatively small quantities they need therefore it's going to be a long wait. Alumninum is fine even in the salty climates. How do I know? I've owned the WSP non-mandrel alumninum pipe for over 1 year and I live in Kansas City wth salty winters. The pipe still looks new.
If you think the mandrel bent pipe performs better than non-mandrel, think again. We have a Max owner in KC that's does dyno testing for WSP and the non-mandrel pipe made 1hp less than the mandrel pipe. Don't blame WSP either, they even say the mandrel pipe really doesn't do much over the non-mandrel.
Dave
I don't know why everyone thinks the SS Tig is a superior design. It's strictly for looks plus the stuff is expensive and is hard to get in the relatively small quantities they need therefore it's going to be a long wait. Alumninum is fine even in the salty climates. How do I know? I've owned the WSP non-mandrel alumninum pipe for over 1 year and I live in Kansas City wth salty winters. The pipe still looks new.
If you think the mandrel bent pipe performs better than non-mandrel, think again. We have a Max owner in KC that's does dyno testing for WSP and the non-mandrel pipe made 1hp less than the mandrel pipe. Don't blame WSP either, they even say the mandrel pipe really doesn't do much over the non-mandrel.
Dave
10-29-2002, 10:07 AM
#62
My recent experience with Warpspeed revolved around me simply asking which pipe(s) were in stock. Within a day, I had my answer and made my choice based on what they had due to time constraints.
If people would ask instead of ASSume, then things would go smoother.
If something isn't physically in stock, not ordering it is probably your best move. There are several other places that supply y-pipes. Thankfully, Maxima owners do have choices.
If people would ask instead of ASSume, then things would go smoother.
If something isn't physically in stock, not ordering it is probably your best move. There are several other places that supply y-pipes. Thankfully, Maxima owners do have choices.
10-29-2002, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
My recent experience with Warpspeed revolved around me simply asking which pipe(s) were in stock. Within a day, I had my answer and made my choice based on what they had due to time constraints.
If people would ask instead of ASSume, then things would go smoother.
If something isn't physically in stock, not ordering it is probably your best move. There are several other places that supply y-pipes. Thankfully, Maxima owners do have choices.
My recent experience with Warpspeed revolved around me simply asking which pipe(s) were in stock. Within a day, I had my answer and made my choice based on what they had due to time constraints.
If people would ask instead of ASSume, then things would go smoother.
If something isn't physically in stock, not ordering it is probably your best move. There are several other places that supply y-pipes. Thankfully, Maxima owners do have choices.
The thing is I did not know the problems people were having with the long wait untill after I orderd. The day I orderd I found these threads with people waiting months for their pipes.
Also they did not divulge any information that they are way behind. They acted like they were shipping it that day.
It is more of their responsibility to be upfront than for me to know the specific questions to ask.
They most definatly have the responsibility to let their customers know if they are out of stock when an order is placed.
It is a good thing we have a choice, and if I can't get confirmation of shipping this week I will exercise that choice.
10-29-2002, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
My recent experience with Warpspeed revolved around me simply asking which pipe(s) were in stock. Within a day, I had my answer and made my choice based on what they had due to time constraints.
If people would ask instead of ASSume, then things would go smoother.
If something isn't physically in stock, not ordering it is probably your best move. There are several other places that supply y-pipes. Thankfully, Maxima owners do have choices.
My recent experience with Warpspeed revolved around me simply asking which pipe(s) were in stock. Within a day, I had my answer and made my choice based on what they had due to time constraints.
If people would ask instead of ASSume, then things would go smoother.
If something isn't physically in stock, not ordering it is probably your best move. There are several other places that supply y-pipes. Thankfully, Maxima owners do have choices.
The thing is I did not know the problems people were having with the long wait untill after I orderd. The day I orderd I found these threads with people waiting months for their pipes.
Also they did not divulge any information that they are way behind. They acted like they were shipping it that day.
It is more of their responsibility to be upfront, than for me to know the specific questions to ask.
They most definatly have the responsibility to let their customers know if they are out of stock when an order is placed. They would not have problems with unsatisfied customers if they would just communicate better.
It is a good thing we have a choice, and if I can't get confirmation of shipping this week I will exercise that choice.
10-29-2002, 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
The thing is I did not know the problems people were having with the long wait untill after I orderd. The day I orderd I found these threads with people waiting months for their pipes.
Also they did not divulge any information that they are way behind. They acted like they were shipping it that day.
It is more of their responsibility to be upfront, than for me to know the specific questions to ask.
They most definatly have the responsibility to let their customers know if they are out of stock when an order is placed. They would not have problems with unsatisfied customers if they would just communicate better.
It is a good thing we have a choice, and if I can't get confirmation of shipping this week I will exercise that choice.
The thing is I did not know the problems people were having with the long wait untill after I orderd. The day I orderd I found these threads with people waiting months for their pipes.
Also they did not divulge any information that they are way behind. They acted like they were shipping it that day.
It is more of their responsibility to be upfront, than for me to know the specific questions to ask.
They most definatly have the responsibility to let their customers know if they are out of stock when an order is placed. They would not have problems with unsatisfied customers if they would just communicate better.
It is a good thing we have a choice, and if I can't get confirmation of shipping this week I will exercise that choice.
It is their responsibility to know AND be up front with status of stock of the inventory with customers.
10-29-2002, 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
That's unfortunate to hear since you were given that impression of its shipping status.
It is their responsibility to know AND be up front with status of stock of the inventory with customers.
That's unfortunate to hear since you were given that impression of its shipping status.
It is their responsibility to know AND be up front with status of stock of the inventory with customers.
Just got off the phone with Warpspeed(Lynn). My order is going out tommorrow. She gave me her word, no if and's or but's.
I had originally orderd the Y-pipe, cat, B-pipe fix. What they are waiting on is the B-pipe fix. So she is going to send the y-pipe and cat tommorrow. Finally!!
Since I may have to wait another week for the B-pipe fix I told her to cancell the order for the fix and just send me the complete b-pipe. I don't mind waiting a little longer for the B-pipe. As long as I can enjoy my Y in the mean time.
As for everyone esle waiting. She said since people have been waiting so long they are going to ship what they have now. So if your waiting on a few different parts you may get some of them soon. It seemed the Y-pipes are ready to go.
10-29-2002, 01:22 PM
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I talked to Lynn too, about 20 minutes ago. She clarified that aluminized Y-pipes for 2k-2k1 will ship tomorrow, but she has to check with Dallas on the status of SS TIG-welded Y-pipes. I'm probably first on the list to receive one.
10-29-2002, 02:58 PM
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TIG/MIG
Originally posted by Dave B
I don't know why everyone thinks the SS Tig is a superior design. It's strictly for looks plus the stuff is expensive and is hard to get in the relatively small quantities they need therefore it's going to be a long wait. Alumninum is fine even in the salty climates. How do I know? I've owned the WSP non-mandrel alumninum pipe for over 1 year and I live in Kansas City wth salty winters. The pipe still looks new.
If you think the mandrel bent pipe performs better than non-mandrel, think again. We have a Max owner in KC that's does dyno testing for WSP and the non-mandrel pipe made 1hp less than the mandrel pipe. Don't blame WSP either, they even say the mandrel pipe really doesn't do much over the non-mandrel.
Dave
I don't know why everyone thinks the SS Tig is a superior design. It's strictly for looks plus the stuff is expensive and is hard to get in the relatively small quantities they need therefore it's going to be a long wait. Alumninum is fine even in the salty climates. How do I know? I've owned the WSP non-mandrel alumninum pipe for over 1 year and I live in Kansas City wth salty winters. The pipe still looks new.
If you think the mandrel bent pipe performs better than non-mandrel, think again. We have a Max owner in KC that's does dyno testing for WSP and the non-mandrel pipe made 1hp less than the mandrel pipe. Don't blame WSP either, they even say the mandrel pipe really doesn't do much over the non-mandrel.
Dave
10-29-2002, 06:01 PM
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Re: Re: TIG/MIG
Originally posted by maximamoose
Dallas sent me an email today saying that mine shipped today!!!!!! YAY. can't wait. Actually, he said only the y shipped. the b didn't yet
Dallas sent me an email today saying that mine shipped today!!!!!! YAY. can't wait. Actually, he said only the y shipped. the b didn't yet
10-29-2002, 09:06 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: TIG/MIG
Originally posted by maximamoose
SS. i don't know whether i ordered mig or tig! sorry
SS. i don't know whether i ordered mig or tig! sorry
10-29-2002, 09:13 PM
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Re: Re: TIG/MIG
Originally posted by maximamoose
Dallas sent me an email today saying that mine shipped today!!!!!! YAY. can't wait. Actually, he said only the y shipped. the b didn't yet
Dallas sent me an email today saying that mine shipped today!!!!!! YAY. can't wait. Actually, he said only the y shipped. the b didn't yet
10-30-2002, 12:47 PM
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Re: Re: Re: TIG/MIG
Originally posted by I30tMikeD
My Y is being shiped tommorrow without my B-pipe. Is your B-pipe going to be 2-1/4 or 2-1/2 diameter? I want the 2-1/2, but not sure that is what I am getting. I originally just orderd the B-pipe fix, I changed it to the whole B-pipe, but did not ask if it was the 2-1/2 or not. I am not sure they have even came out with the 2-1/2 yet.
My Y is being shiped tommorrow without my B-pipe. Is your B-pipe going to be 2-1/4 or 2-1/2 diameter? I want the 2-1/2, but not sure that is what I am getting. I originally just orderd the B-pipe fix, I changed it to the whole B-pipe, but did not ask if it was the 2-1/2 or not. I am not sure they have even came out with the 2-1/2 yet.
10-30-2002, 05:11 PM
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Warpspeed Y in 7 business days!
I GOT it! They must be doing better in turnaround time than many have experienced. Aluminizied 3rd gen. Looks clean and beautiful! Hope it fits? Find out on Fri.
11-04-2002, 03:57 PM
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Re: Re: Re: TIG/MIG
Originally posted by I30tMikeD
My Y is being shiped tommorrow without my B-pipe. Is your B-pipe going to be 2-1/4 or 2-1/2 diameter? I want the 2-1/2, but not sure that is what I am getting. I originally just orderd the B-pipe fix, I changed it to the whole B-pipe, but did not ask if it was the 2-1/2 or not. I am not sure they have even came out with the 2-1/2 yet.
My Y is being shiped tommorrow without my B-pipe. Is your B-pipe going to be 2-1/4 or 2-1/2 diameter? I want the 2-1/2, but not sure that is what I am getting. I originally just orderd the B-pipe fix, I changed it to the whole B-pipe, but did not ask if it was the 2-1/2 or not. I am not sure they have even came out with the 2-1/2 yet.
Did you find out at all when yours will be made and delivered? Have you talked to either Dallas or Lynn about this issue? Let me know.
Thanks
Matt