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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Seems about right. I'm gonna stick with the paste till I run out. It's just a lot of extra work to get it on there and make sure it all comes off. I randomly find spots afterwards. I waxed two weeks ago and just found spots today on there. It pisses me off haha. Maybe I'll test the ICE or something with a couple coats each time.
Old May 18, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by n3985
But if I follow up with a polish, then no need to wash right?
Correct. Those who are washing after claying are actually adding time to the process.
Old May 18, 2006 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 00MaxSE
From what I've heard, the harder it is to apply, the longer it will last. So, paste should last longer than liquid I think.
Not true. Regardless of the brand of carnauba wax you purchase, it's going to last 1 - 1.5 months at the most regardless of it being liquid or paste.
Old May 18, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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So Prinz, you'd say liquid is just as good? Any need for extra coats or will one coat of liquid produce the same results as one paste coat?
Old May 18, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dust N Bones
Actually you want to wash the car again after clay bar then wax. The clay leaves the paint oily because clay is oily by nature.
Disagree. Washing is not necessary ESPECIALLY if you're polishing. If you aren't polishing then you can make a case for washing, but if you're polishing I would say washing again in just a huge waste of time.
Old May 18, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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So Prinz, you'd say liquid is just as good? Any need for extra coats or will one coat of liquid produce the same results as one paste coat?
Multiple coats will make it last a bit longer.

I cannot stress to people enough how worth buying Pinnacle Souveran is. Yea, it's expensive but it a.) is easy to apply, b.) lasts pretty well, c.) won't stain your trim, d.) smells great, e.) Looks UNBELIEVABLE. I've had the same container for a while now...40 bucks every couple years is so totally worth it. I remember when I used to use Blitz and spent hours peanut buttering my trim to try and get all the stains out. Pinnacle is worth it on that basis alone.

Wax should be applied thin, and I think that's why some people get all crazy about wax prices...they slather it on there like they're buttering a roll. You're buffing off most of the wax you apply to the paint, so there is absolutely no benefit in applying it thick. Make sure you're using high quality pads, spray a little QD on the pad before you use it, then apply the wax thin so you can see some hazing, but not see this thick white layer of wax. A random orbital will help you apply the wax thinner and more evenly.

My dad applies it too thick and the pad is all crusted with wax after he's done. If the pad is super full of wax when you're done, it means you're doing it wrong. When you're done the pad should be waxy and maybe a bit crudded up, but it should not have easily viewable chunks/layers of wax on it. I usually apply 3 or 4 swipes with the block of pinnacle to the pad then apply to an area about the size of half the hood, then do two swipes with the block of Pinnacle accross the pad and apply to another area about the size of half the hood. Sometimes even two swipes is too much and I get too much wax on the panel. Spread that shti THIN.
Old May 21, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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I like to clay and then wash with a mild detergent to get the spray polish off, and then start applying Zaino.
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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i clayed the car last weekend. I have to admit that I was skeptical at this clay bar thing at first. AFter the first five minutes I realized I should have done this years ago.

I have some debris, bug remains and other stuff below the wax that never really came off during a wash. This stuff was all over the rear trunk and bumper. It was there and getting worse (for 2 years). The clay bar just made it go away.
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