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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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vq35 4th gen on the dyno

well we had a group dyno which was alot of fun. thanks joel again for setting it up. now here are 3 runs with air/fuel as well. i told them to go to the fuel cut but they didnt for some reason. let me know what you guys think.
mods are
vq35 with 350z lower and upper with de-k injectors using 2k2 max ecu
and vtc
apexi air filter
greddy sp-2 exhaust

Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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That thing was truly a beast to observe......now, if we can just find you a different "hood accessory"
Old Apr 9, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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vasily can you send the run files to steven88@mindspring.com

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Nices numbers man. not too man mods too. Since your using the 2k2 ECu can you get the 17 degree timing advance also?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Those are very nice numbers. I always wanted to see your car in person and it looks good. I think you helped me decide what muffler to get because yours is crazy quiet and looks good.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Nices numbers man. not too man mods too. Since your using the 2k2 ECu can you get the 17 degree timing advance also?
That doesn't do anything above 2300 RPM or so. But what do i know.....



Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Can you send me the run files also?

dvrditar @ hotmail. com (no spaces)

Thanks!
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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I guess you really did leave us all in the dust with that one.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Tuning > you....

No ypipe/headers?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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WOW! Not Impressed....
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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WOW! Not Impressed....
Kind of what I was thinking..but didn't want to be the one to speak on it lol
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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the hp looks like a 350z....nice and smooth...but it kinda dies off slowly at 5.6k...i thought these 350z manifolds hold power all the way into the 6.2k range?

tq looks real nice though...better than a stock Z...
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by steven88
the hp looks like a 350z....nice and smooth...but it kinda dies off slowly at 5.6k...i thought these 350z manifolds hold power all the way into the 6.2k range?

tq looks real nice though...better than a stock Z...
what kind of 350z graphs have you been looking at? Thats nowhere near what a healthy stock 350z puts down HP wise. 240ish is what a healthy stock 350z puts down.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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what kind of 350z graphs have you been looking at? Thats nowhere near what a healthy stock 350z puts down HP wise. 240ish is what a healthy stock 350z puts down.
umm...the ones from my350z.com?....i even asked a question on there regarding stock whp...most replied sayin it RANGES from 225-245...its not ALWAYS in the 240 range...
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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I'm not that impressed either. I think his lack of headers is what is killing him the most. I mean what's the point of swapping a 3.5 if you're not going to put headers on it? It's basically a necessary mod, sure it costs a lot, but still necessary.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Hey man, could you send the run files to njdrymalski@netscape.com?

Once you get headers and a tune your numbers should shoot up pretty good. I'm jealous of your torque.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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I'm not that impressed either. I think his lack of headers is what is killing him the most. I mean what's the point of swapping a 3.5 if you're not going to put headers on it? It's basically a necessary mod, sure it costs a lot, but still necessary.
i really dont care if your impressed or not. whats the point of swapping a vq35 and not having headers? the point is to have a vq35 instead of a vq30 in a 4th gen. headers can always be added later which i will do.

i am satisfied with the numbers but like i said i thought the guy went to fuel cut and he didnt. there was a 06 350z at the dyno as well but i cant remember what numbers he got. i ask him though to post them here.
next on the mod list are either a 1/2 motordyne spacer or if maxs can make one for me and some hotshot headers as well and then tuning. i still have to fix my p300 code as well.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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We really need to figure out the hp gap between the 350z and the fwd vq's. I see Z's all the time with 260+whp with no headers or cams. I dynoed that with headers and cams.

Everyone assumes that it is the IM where all the gains are, I think this proves otherwise. It may provide some gains with a spacer, but the curve doesn't look too good up top. I guess that leaves tuning, and I think someone said they got the 350z program flashed onto their computer, so hopefully they will dyno and see what gains they gets from that.

What else could it be?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 96sleeper
We really need to figure out the hp gap between the 350z and the fwd vq's. I see Z's all the time with 260+whp with no headers or cams. I dynoed that with headers and cams.

Everyone assumes that it is the IM where all the gains are, I think this proves otherwise. It may provide some gains with a spacer, but the curve doesn't look too good up top. I guess that leaves tuning, and I think someone said they got the 350z program flashed onto their computer, so hopefully they will dyno and see what gains they gets from that.

What else could it be?
Bring your car to Charlotte one weekend and lets find out.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Bring your car to Charlotte one weekend and lets find out.
I will, but it better be a worthwhile trip.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
i really dont care if your impressed or not. whats the point of swapping a vq35 and not having headers? the point is to have a vq35 instead of a vq30 in a 4th gen. headers can always be added later which i will do.

i am satisfied with the numbers but like i said i thought the guy went to fuel cut and he didnt. there was a 06 350z at the dyno as well but i cant remember what numbers he got. i ask him though to post them here.
next on the mod list are either a 1/2 motordyne spacer or if maxs can make one for me and some hotshot headers as well and then tuning. i still have to fix my p300 code as well.
Well what is your purpose here if its not to impress people? You are worthless when it comes to sharing information and none of the knowledgeable guys around here can stand you. You talk all this crap about leaving everyone in the dust but yet when it comes time to step to the plate and prove it you just can't. All the BS talk and all the work for a mere 225whp , yea sure you're satisfied. What difference would it have made if he went to fuel cut anyway? The power was already falling off so it wouldn't have made any difference in your peak numbers. Better get back to your brother in search of answers so you can reply to my post.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Haha...i love it.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu←
Well what is your purpose here if its not to impress people? You are worthless when it comes to sharing information and none of the knowledgeable guys around here can stand you. You talk all this crap about leaving everyone in the dust but yet when it comes time to step to the plate and prove it you just can't. All the BS talk and all the work for a mere 225whp , yea sure you're satisfied. . Better get back to your brother in search of answers so you can reply to my post.
how does this relate to this thread?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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here is the dyno of the 2006 350z that had nismo exhaust and a short ram intake.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Btw, that was Gooey's Z, and in the first run (214/191), they had the parking brake partially engaged. FTL.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Wow that Z is running RICH
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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here is the link to a video of the run
http://media.putfile.com/Vsamoylovs-Dyno
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Exhaust and tuning is holding some of the power, however IMHO, you need to either run a early production G35 Sedan ECU or get TechnoSquare to flash you the 350Z program with VTC maps.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
here is the link to a video of the run
http://media.putfile.com/Vsamoylovs-Dyno
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Exhaust and tuning is holding some of the power, however IMHO, you need to either run a early production G35 Sedan ECU or get TechnoSquare to flash you the 350Z program with VTC maps.
I know part of the reason the 350Z makes more HP and torque is because of the wider range of cam timing changes relative to the crank than other 3.5's. I looked up the intake cam sprocket part numbers in FAST and they are the same between FWD 3.5 and Z33 motors. I also looked up the VTC solenoid part numbers and the right side is the same between the FWD and Z33 3.5, but the left side solenoid has a different part number. Dunno how this will affect his HP potential using the Z33 ECU, but i just though i'd share.
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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NISMO also offers VTC pulleys that extend the range even further, however to take advantage of them, you need the NISMO ECU or some kind of controller possibly even the EU.
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NISMO also offers VTC pulleys that extend the range even further, however to take advantage of them, you need the NISMO ECU or some kind of controller possibly even the EU.
bingo that is what i was looking at exactly. i think that a 2k2 max ecu reflashed with 350z software for the vtc should do the trick.
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I think it will help, but you need headers and tuning too.

It would be interesting to log the duty of the IVT solenoid between a Max and a 350Z throughout the RPM range.
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The Z33 VTC just ramps up ealier than the A33B VTC. The A33B VTC is delayed because is has the assistance of the VAIS, and they didn't want the FWD to have more low end torque than it has now. I test drove a 2002 auto Altima and a 2002 auto Maxima when they first came out and I could immediately tell they were both hobbled off idle at low speeds.
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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I buy that for the low-end, however for the mid/top end, Nissan optimized IVT for the 350Z IM per the SAE doc.


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The Z33 VTC just ramps up ealier than the A33B VTC. The A33B VTC is delayed because is has the assistance of the VAIS, and they didn't want the FWD to have more low end torque than it has now. I test drove a 2002 auto Altima and a 2002 auto Maxima when they first came out and I could immediately tell they were both hobbled off idle at low speeds.
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http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model...ine&prodid=922
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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....and then?
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ight=NISMO+VTC
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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and then some nismo s1 cams



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