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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Full DEK swap Dyno after Cattman headers

Results are in...



Direct comparison 4th gear (Same timing curve and similar AF curve) -



Best 3rd gear pull with some more tuning -



Uncorrected best 3rd gear pull with some more tuning -

Old Dec 29, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Still opted not to tap the limiter

Still, very nice curve.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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possibly as high as 220 if the limiter was hit...
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Go Joe.. Those are some nice curves and that thing runs like a bull now i can say i took a ride in a 215whp maxima... and by the way very nice engine bay. Cleanest motor i have seen for 202,000miles-lol.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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possibly as high as 220 if the limiter was hit...
FYI I always hit the rev limiter for every dyno test. Even when it's strapped in the car jumps around on the rollers cause it hit's so hard.

I think the dyno reads the RPM a little lower and thats why it says 6400 rpm.

There will be a video up soon, you guys can hear the car hitting the rev limit.
Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Very very nice. Are you still overall disapointed though? Also, do you have pics of your old Y?

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now i can say i took a ride in a 215whp maxima...



Oh wait, nevermind, I tend to forget my car isn't technically a maxima.
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your curve was still on a positive slope...you should really get your rev limiter extended...you could be making more power than that! plus those extremely heavy wheels you speak of...
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So...........extend the rev limiter and expose the DEK cams potential.
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well the de intake cam have actually proven to be better breathers on top end, but nonetheless, his curve looks to be on a very positive slope where it got cut off, thus I would think there would be a little more left in it if he were to get it extended...
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So...........extend the rev limiter and expose the DEK cams potential.
it needs a EU

Some time next year if it's in the budget.
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
it needs a EU

Some time next year if it's in the budget.
Next year is in less than 48 hrs.
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Very very nice. Are you still overall disapointed though? Also, do you have pics of your old Y?
That's kind of a moot point as Im always disapointed and looking to do something better. Ask Itayi, im already planning the next set of stuff to do for this car.

Though I would like for the bees sound to go away on these headers and then I could live with them.

My old y pipe is a Warpspeed wrapped in header wrap spray painted black, not much to look at...
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So, 'real' headers are not in the future plan(s)?
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So, 'real' headers are not in the future plan(s)?
The Cattmans are all that I can do for now. Unless I want to go with some custom fabrication of some sort.

I will post some more ideas in the coming weeks in all motor and you guys can have fun shooting them down.
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Cattmans are the way to go,
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I don't know if the 800 dollars are worth 5hp
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truth be told most people do it for the sweet equal length sound....and in my case, the 25lb. weight reduction...

but also you have to look at the fact that it's not just 5-6whp added, it's 5-6 added all the way from 5K-redline...same goes with the torque curve...
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Yes I see that but still, 800 bucks is alot to dish out for the minimal power gain. I do know conditions were much better for the first run tho so that does bring the numbers down a lil bit i suppose.
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dyno video

It's a big file 230 MB

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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
dyno video

It's a big file 230 MB
Was worth to download to me. Car is running strong and to the attention to detail under that hood. No skimping out on things, that's for sure. Kudos.
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Was worth to download to me. Car is running strong and to the attention to detail under that hood. No skimping out on things, that's for sure. Kudos.
A clean engine is a happy engine and happy engines make more power.

See the sig on how it used to look in 2006 when I first cleaned it up.

Next up is the engine build I want to do with alot of attention to detail.

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b0000 it loaded but all I got was a ? mark on the Quicktime logo FTL :-(. Either way tho, amazing results! and the curves are simply stunning. With extended redline wow. not only more power, but also beter gearing. This car would be a beast on the track and even more fun on the highway if you just had more revs! aaaite :-D
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OMG, add a cutout and eliminate the midpipe (like mine and NMexMax's intake, TB>Coupler>MAF>Cone).... OMG that top end would be pure sexualz

EDIT- aaaaahh!!! and a 3" MAF, jesus. DEK all motor in the 230-235whp what!!!!!! Beats 85% of 3.5 swaps in here, hahaha
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Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
With extended redline wow. not only more power, but also beter gearing.
Extended redline without a shorter F/D to match usually means worse gearing.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I don't know if the 800 dollars are worth 5hp
If going ‘all out’, I wouldn’t mind dishing it out.
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I spent a total of $450ish (give or take $20) for my ebay long runner headers and having a custom equal length ypipe made. More of a hassle, yes. Worth the savings of another $400 for "bolt on headers", heck YEA. lol.

Of course custom work isnt for everyone, some folks just dont want the hassle, I dont mind if it saves me chunks of money like that, lol.

Rigs FTMFW!!!!!!
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True, I paid 520$ for my Cattman Gen I's.
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well considering dandymax probably was putting down 230-240whp pre-cams with his 3.0...one can only imagine what could become of some mild head work/port & polish and full tune via e-ultimate and cams like dandy had...since he never dynoed and retuned before his engine blew...
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
If going ‘all out’, I wouldn’t mind dishing it out.
Agreed.
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that's true, the infamous "80/20" rule...or law of diminishing returns...80/20 rule (the first 20% of the cost nets 80% of the benefit, and the last 20% of the benefit is responsible for 80% of the cost), the essentials constitute that first 80% of benefit of modding...
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Wow, nice videos, I never knew such high quality vids on the web existed! on the engine bay, the hard line coolant tubes make it, nice radiator also.

Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Yes I see that but still, 800 bucks is alot to dish out for the minimal power gain. I do know conditions were much better for the first run tho so that does bring the numbers down a lil bit i suppose.

But from what he said in a previous thread the other Y had crush bends That's why I was wondering if you had pics, but yeah if they are taped it's pointless.
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Huh?

He had a warpspeed ypipe IIRC, no crush bends
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUhVplqDePA

Muffler video.
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Sounds very nice. Which remus muffler is that?
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Sounds very nice. Which remus muffler is that?
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/sing...v3-p-1132.html
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Huh?

He had a warpspeed ypipe IIRC, no crush bends
Orly?

Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
2.5" Warpspeed non mandrel Y-pipe wrapped in DEI header wrap
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O snaps. Well either way headers still didn't add that much for a stock revlimit car, im sure it would be nice for a high revver tho
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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
dyno video

It's a big file 230 MB
wow... thats big and could use some compressing, but still very worth the download.

are you A/F readings based on the tail sniffer? or do you have an wb02 installed further upstream?

car sound great.
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Tail sniff, WB will prob come with new engine management
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Nice numbers...I am hoping that my 00vi will help me put down similar numbers. How were they at New England Dyno? As you can see, I am local too. How many runs did you do? How much were they charging a run?



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