Mabye a dumb question, but these principles would apply to a 92 Max SE as well. Correct?

 

nah not dumb..

yes i would believe so, just ck for a bleed screw, and bleed if it specifies in the manual. hmm but u shouldn't worry as the bubbles will find its way up.

also, during the first few trips, ck resoivor to make sure it isn't using up too fast, might need a bit more ..

 

Run Toyota Red in my Maxima for over a year now and the tester says I am very well protected.

Toyota Red is NOT premixed. I just bought 2 gallons of it for my MR2 and paid 13 buxors a gallon for it.

For a 2001, to get a very close 50/50 as you are draining your flushing distilled water for the last time (And the block is full of distilled water). Fill the radiator totally up with coolant. This will give you like a 48/52 mixture. This is what is in my car and I am in the Midwest with no issues.

Nissan service skimps in the coolant department. At the dealer (before I decided to do it myself) says they buy whatever in bulk. They look more at cost versus what is actually supposed to go in there.

Yet one more reason to do it yourself. Right material, better job.

 

whats a good mixture for miami and how many gallons of what should i buy? temps drop to lowest 40 degrees winter as high as 100 summer. for sure the watter wetter will be going in along with toyota red, i am planning on doing and engine flush, not just the radiator

 

i just did mine two weeks ago.

I believe the radiator holds 3.75 quarts of fluid instead of 4. It took about 6 drain and fills before everything came out relatively clear

 

So.... what do we think of the AMsoil antifreeze?????

 

It's silicate-free, so its performance should be similar to Toyota Red/Honda/Nissan anit-freezes. I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

 

Thanx! I think ill get some of that. Im already loving their oil, so what the heck! Do you think I should put the RedLine WaterWetter in it too or is that overkill/hazardous?

 

Water Wetter is almost universally praised, I'd go for it.

 

It's certainly not hazardous and fine to use.

 

FWIW, my bottle of Amsoil coolant says "phosphate-free, low silicate."

 

Sorry, that was a misrepresentation on my part. With Amsoil being propoylene glycol and not ethylene glycol, it's probably not wise for me to state Toyota Red = Nissan = Honda = Amsoil.


There are people who use Amsoil's PG formulation in Japanese vehicles without issue. It apparently requires a 70%/30% mix, so keep that in mind and also FLUSH the system like crazy since you are converting between different glycol bases.


Nissan makes "long life" and conventional life coolants:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...;f=37;t=000341


More info:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...=000214#000000


And you can find tons more on the BITOG forums by searching in the coolant forum for "Amsoil"

 

Well, this was a lot to take in. Didnt know antifreeze was so complicated.

So, Bill99gxe, what would you use? Should I just get the Toyota red and add the WaterWetter and call it a day?

 

I used a 50/50 solution of the Toyota Red and poured in a bottle of Water Wetter when I was done. Got in nine runs last Friday night in 100 degree heat and the temp gauge stayed below the midline.

 

Where is a good place to get the Toyota Red online? or is it just as good to go to the local dealership?

 

...even Bimmers are fans of the Toyota Red...

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66815

 

I just called a Nissan (two seperate ones) and Toyota dealer and here are the price quotes. Which one should I get?

Nissan
$14.95 (green)
$18.31 (green)

Toyota
$12.99 (green)
$14.99 (red)
$14.99 (pink)

 

Please read the first two pages of this thread and you will know the answer. Like Ragu....its in there baby.

 

Let me rephrase the question . Will Toyota Red work in an 89 Maxima? The first two pages are filled with members who have 2000+ cars. When I called Toyota they asked me what year my car was. When I told him it was for a Nissan, he said he wasnt sure if it would work since each color was made for specific years.

 

called Toyota and they gave me a price of $18.86.

Thought about it and called Lexus. Their price was $15.21.

go figure......

 

im pretty sure, niss (imposs to purchase for me), toyota, honda are all good.

im sure it'll work. coolant is coolant afterall imo.. im sure its okay. just say ur car was an 89. im using prestone on my 89 civic off the counte.r

 

but why plead indifference when the general consensus agrees that there is a notable difference? ....unless it is to stifle critisizm for personal error?

 

nothing is ever the same if u look at it that way, but from a rational point of view and if u look at the general consensus its the same.

shell gas MAY be different to chevron, 76, etc, and probably IS DIFFERENT due to diff't cleaning additivies.etc. but in the end, what is it? gas right? NOticeable difference,? advertsiment wise? perfomance wise?? yes on many levels...maybe.

aquafina, dasani, etc etc have diff't properties at the mineral level, sediments, but if u look at it from outside, water is water..

i've seen people run prestone w/ NO probs, they keep up w/ their flushes, etc etc. I use prestone on my older car, because rationale tells me, the car MAY or may not break down due to the age factor. But lets say i have a 2006, and i'd keep it down the road 5-7 years, I'd baby it as well don't you think? but this is silly as well, cuz theres people changing their cars every 3-5 years, so i honestly d k why u'd want to baby it if u not gonna keep it, just like performance parts, seen iit many times, selling a car, take over my payements blabh blahc... and that?? dont u think is silly?

i've called nissan and they dont sell oem coolant, cuz they order it by the barrell, so is that to say im doomed? no, cuz i can pick up prestone or peak or whatever and use it. and if someone says, blah blah blah, i tell em, the dealer told me so... and if i dont like prestone cuz of bors, silicates, i can go honda or toyota ..

general consensus is only for those who put their focus on the subject matter, such as car enthusiasts, etc. i dont think (honestly) that an avg person will know what the difference is between coolant brand (makeup).

oh well.. use what u want, if u believe that OEM can MAKE that big of a difference in logetivity go for it..

 

Any 2k2 write ups on flushing/filling radiator?

 

Wow, a long diatribe here that still fails to see the point. Prestone (with its silicates) has been PROVEN to degrade the condition of the water pump and seals inside the cooling system, causing major problems that require the replacement of hoses, pumps, etc. Using OEM, Toyota Red, Honda Blue, etc is a good "preventative" measure to keep your car from having serious issues.

As to your point about longevity, say you were buying a car, and knew exactly what you were looking for. You obviously are going to know some of the in's and out's of the vehicle and some problem areas to keep an eye on. So, if the seller walked up and told you some of the "preventative" measures he did on the vehicle (and why), wouldn't you be more likely to buy from him?

I know that I certainly baby my car now knowing that a couple of years down the road when I try to sell it that I want it to be in perfect condition so I can get top price. This might be a little bit hard for you to understand though....

 

My recommendation for Toyota Red was the result of using conventional coolant (Prestone) and seeing the amount of soot buildup/discoloration versus using Toyota Red for two years and seeing no noticeable soot buildup or discoloration. It literally looked like it had been put in a month ago. I'm confident that Honda and Nissan OEM would return at least similar results becuase their formulations are based on similar chemical additives as the Toyota Red. Prestone and other antifreezes for domestic makes is another story.


We don't make halfass recommendations here and as long as I run this forum it will not succumb to ignorance, simply the pursuit of better (and cheaper) methods for lubing, filtering, and cooling our vehicles.

 

This may be worthy of another thread, but I wanted to quickly ask if anyone knows how much better ethylene glycol (conventional antifreeze, highly toxic to animals) is than propylene glycol ("low-tox" antifreeze), from a cooling performance standpoint.

 

Scroll up to my post on 05-25-2005, 01:13 PM and follow those links, as it's been discussed more thoroughly on the BITOG forums.

 

i am not interested in completly changing my anti freeze, however i am running a little low and want to know a good antifreeze to add to the nissan coolant that is in there. i have a 2k2. will prestone work fine?

 

Lots of revive from the dead.
biill99gxe
I am not saying PRESTONE is king or whatever. You recommend Toyota based on your experience, facts, etc etc etc etc. You made them as a sticky and its yours, no one is going to take that away. This is your forum and yes it serves purpose and it is helpful to many. I am not endorsing Prestone, but I was just saying it from a different angle.

Realize that people are there to make their own decisions, even after you recommend or whatever. Surely someone who has just ventured into these types of things will lean strongly on a 'recommendation'. I'm sure someone who has read or will see the stickies, decide for themselves what they want to use. Chances are, someone who is willing to make an effort to care, to read will follow the recommendation.

S00NR1
You baby your car and have your ideas, your views and opinion. Though, you just dont' seem to want to see things from a different angle.... You do PMs accordingly, you want to baby your car and that's you. If you feel that this difference makes up in price, reliabiltiy, probs, then go ahead, it may or may not affect a buyer, pending his or her knowledge. But that's completely different. Buying a car/ selling it is a complete different situation. You listen to the owner, but more than anything, you use your own judgement to decide, but then again, it's how you are as a person.
Just like oil changes, u can do it at recommended, at your will, over or under, but does that mean it'll shoot out the engine?? Will 500 miles, 200 miles under/over suggested, make that much of a difference? No, you won't know and neither will the buyer/seller. Will a brand mean anything???? To some yes, to some no.

I know what you are saying about PMS to the car and all that, but this is your car at the time being and you take care of it the way you want to. It's not about the brand at times, but of the consistency and maintenance you do on your car. It's just a point of relativety. I use HONDA OEM in my CORD, and MAXIMA if that'll mean anything. Again, I wanted to use NISSAN but THEY SUGGESTED PRESTONE to me.. =\

Just realize that if prestone was that bad, it wouldn't be on the market. And realize that if OEM was that superior, WATER PUMPS would NEVER go bad. You think how you want to think use what you want to use. GOOD PM, brand name oil, etc etc is all up to you.

I've used PRESTONE all my life in my 89 civic and its still on the same OEM water pump. But do or should I replace the Water Pump b4 it craps out and makes more problems? Maybe yes, maybe no. It has given me no failures, no over heat, though I do change the hoses, and flush the fluid out regularly. FLUID IS FLUID, it isn't there to extend PMs forever, although people are getting that idea w/ SYN OIL and etc..

YA i fail to see the point.. =\ Come one now, relax and chill...

 

the orange prestone says its fine, and i say its okay. but i thnk you should just use OEM nissan, i would. more importantly flush and get some fresh coolant in there. if u really need, add distilled water.

 

i dont want to flush because i am sure that i will mess something up.

 

dont' worry. its not as bad.

but suggest using the same. OEM.. saves u the trouble and dont have to worry abought mixing and all that..

 

Does it matter which heater hose that you connect the "drain and fill" adaptor?

 

Its great to see the lively discussion on antifreeze, the confusion is extrordinary. It's understandable considering the advertising and claims floating around out there!

Nissan, and most of the other Asian brands, factory-fill 50% ethylene glycol based antifreeze with an Asian - style inhibitor package that uses benzoate, other carboxylates, azoles to protect copper and brass, and sometimes nitrate or phosphate. Asians have a serious aversion to silicate, unlike the Americans and Europeans. It is supplied to them by CCI Manufacturing, a Japanese owned company near Chicago.

The current Prestone products are along the lines of GM Dex-Cool, and they are different than the Asian approach. Old World, the maker of Peak brands of antifreezes, packages an Asian formulation from CCI called "Peak Global". This is very close to the current Nissan and Toyota factory fill products chemically, but it is dyed yellow to prevent weird color changes if it is mixed with another coolant.

 

After going by my local nissan dealer and askin for a gallon of nissan coolant, and them tellin me 27 bucks for 1 friggin gallon i left promptly lol, but im going too look into this Peak global mentioned above, sounds good too me!...

 

The radiator flush with distilled H2O sounds like a good Idea. I think I'll go with Toyota red since it's getting the best reviews. There's only one thing I'm not sure about. What do I do about the Overflow resevoire (sp?)? Do I drain it seperately and fill it with 50/50, or does it get flushed out just by adding distilled water repeatedly to flush? I drive a 2003. Thanks to whoever understands my question and can give me the answer.

 

You need to drain it, clean it, and refill it seperately. It is probably pretty dirty.

 

Should the car be briefly driven before flushing the antifreeze?

 

I realized that my 1.5 year old car is way too low, still some in the resovoir, but not much. Read the entire thread of course, but a flush would be a waste with only 16k miles.

When I do flush, I'll go with Toyota Red, but meanwhile should I just top off with Nissan Green?