Originally posted by sloppymax
my opinion is that it does make the engine run smoother and quieter. i got better fuel mileage and its less wear and tear in the long run.

Originally posted by sloppymax
my opinion is that it does make the engine run smoother and quieter. i got better fuel mileage and its less wear and tear in the long run.

Originally posted by kloogy
All I know is I didnt fell like doing it myself..., I took it to OILMAX, and all the Honda Boys gathered around and STARED at my Maxx's engine. They kept pointing at the intake, one guy spotted the Maxspeeds, and the other guy was looking at my muffler ...

Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE

However, I haven't heard the dreaded timing chain "crunching" at startups! It's only been a few days, but I hope it stays this way!!!

Originally posted by BuddyWh


What is the timing chain "crunching"? Is it something all the 5th gen engines do?

What causes it?

Thanks for any information!

BuddyWh

question = with syn....do u guys change oil every 5000 instead of 3000? since it lasts longer?

Heat and oxidation are the main enemies of lubricant basestocks - especially of the contaminants in conventional basestocks. Once a lubricant has begun to break down, it must be replaced so that the vehicle is not damaged by lack of lubrication or chemical attack. However, since synthetic oils are designed from pure, uniform synthetic basestocks, they contain no contaminants or unstable molecules which are prone to thermal and oxidative break down.
Moreover, because of their uniform molecular structure, synthetic lubricants operate with less friction than petroleum oils which have the non-uniform molecular structure discussed earlier. The result is better heat control, and less heat means less stress to the lubricant. Thus, synthetic oils can be used safely for much longer drain intervals than conventional lubricants. In fact, AMSOIL synthetic oils have been guaranteed for 25,000 miles or one year since 1972. Red Line Oil also recommends long drain intervals of 10,000 to 18,000 miles.

You might ask why other synthetic oil manufacturers are not recommending extended oil drains for their synthetics. The answer is really very simple: money. They are afraid that if they recommend longer drain intervals, they won't sell enough oil - petroleum oil, that is.

You see, petroleum oil is their golden goose, and has been for years. The only reason large oil companies produce a synthetic oil is because somebody else did it first (AMSOIL), and they must please the small (but growing) percentage of the population which has already decided that synthetics are better and won't purchase anything else.

Petroleum oil is where the money is. With recommended oil drains of only 3,000 miles, many people are changing their oil 5 to 8 times per year. If everyone suddenly switched over to synthetics, they would begin to realize that it is possible to go 10,000 to 25,000 miles or more without an oil change (depending upon the oil). This is a scary thought for large oil companies who depend upon regular oil changes for their business.

Originally posted by big bad jon
U guyz are lucky tho...
i went to change my oil at the dealer since none of the local shops know how, and it cost ... (drumroll).... 75 bones PLUS tax!!!!
ouch..
i looked at the invoice, and my little bimmer (325) takes 7, read 7!!! quarts of oil... holy crap. (luckily they are only scheduled every 15,000 miles... and the scheduled ones are free... unlike the after breakin one i got for 75 bones...

Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE


I took my Max to JiffyLube for the first oil-change (synthetic)... the guys there were going CRAZY with my Max! They couldn't stop asking questions & checking everything out... they said wow, you have K&N filter... Oh yeah, they had a field day when I said: "you can play around with the navigation if you want" Too bad they won't be seing me again (well maybe for ATF change)

I just changed my oil this weekend. Fully Synthetic Royal Purple Racing Oil #21. $8/qt. Also got a Fram oil filter (damn K&N filter orders backed up) and bought a MAGNAFORCE OIL FILTER MAGNET I don't notice a real difference (other than my mind "tricking" me that it runs smoother) However, I haven't heard the dreaded timing chain "crunching" at startups! It's only been a few days, but I hope it stays this way!!! I'll keep you guys posted w/my experiences with this synthetic oil.

G

Originally posted by Sopdadope
I don't want to sound like a Superflo or Valvoline salesmen but both those synth oils perform as well as the mobil for a third the price and half in the Valvoline's case. It's been scientifically proven that the Superflo has better wear protection than the Mobil 1. You can try doing searches on the web for independent research comparisons.

$4 per quart is a bit expensive but it's only a minor nuisance compared to spending $3k for a new motor because you neglected to change your oil often enough and with quality oil. Besides, you should see how much they have to pay for good oil in Japan and Europe. Some of those guys are obsessive-compulsive and spend $16 a quart on Motul 600 oil that they change 6 times a year. Ever heard of Omega or Impul performance oils? Some of those Japenese street racers swear by it and shell out $200 for a 5-quart drum!! OUCH!!

depending on your driving conditions, you still may need to change at 3-4K.

again, my oil is fine but still needs to be changed.

http://www.adpub.com/tim/oil_max1.jpg

and that is a brand new air filter at 15K. Just all short trip city driving.

I advocate syn, but dont suggest extended drains without the backup of reports for *your* own car.

Originally posted by bill99gxe

Please do not go over 3k miles with this oil

Also, take the Fram oil filter off of your vehicle immediately.

Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
They're not that bad... I know, I know I've read about the Fram plant horror stories. But, I've also read tons of posts of people supporting the Fram line. Besides, my K&N filter isn't due to arrive until Friday.

G

Originally posted by bill99gxe

I weep for that VQ35DE........

Fram has consistently been inferior to every other filter out there in recent years. PLEASE remove it.

Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE


No need to cry Bill... the Magnaforce fitlermagnet will collect all of the shavings

The VQ will be juuuust fine...

Besides, the domestic forums seem to like Fram filters.

G

Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
Besides, the domestic forums seem to like Fram filters.

G

Originally posted by bill99gxe


Out of control





Trusting what domestic people do to their vehicles is the sure downfall of your import. Taking their advice seriously is outright lunacy.

Besides, domestics are designed to last 40 or 50k.....not 200k

Originally posted by Tallyman


Taking advice like this is the real downfall of imports and sure is lunacy. My domestic out lasted my 84 nissan 200sx by about 70K.
200SX = 120k then died
Grand Prix = 190K and still running

I am not knocking Nissan in anyway. I bought another, my 2k2 maxima. All I am saying is to think the are engineered for 40-50K is shear stupidity.

It is all a function of how well you take care of them, regaurdless of being foreign or domestic....

Originally posted by bill99gxe


My original statement alluded to the Camaro, Mustang, and LS1s who think their vehicles can handle NOS, etc. with nothing more than regular oil and Fram filters. Taking advice from domestic owners that Fram filters are good is luncacy. That isn't debateable.

However, you chose to make my comments more of a blanket assessment and used a really old '84 200sx to make your point, which is weak.

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That comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek and you should probably think about such statements, the person who says them, and their context before responding. More often than not, I have seen abused imports last far longer than abused domestics....


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