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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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a little late finding this thread..but what someone was saying about dropping the oil pan is- there's two bolts that come from inside the pan to the bottom side of the timing chain cover- i dropped one of the timing chain tensioner bolts down the case when i was putting new water pump into car and no...its not fun to take off the timing chain case
Old Aug 2, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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There is a cheaper alternative

If one doesn't want to pay $1k for JWT cams, you can always get the factory cams reground. All you do is send your cams to a company like ISKY or Crower and tell them where/how you want the power made. Then they will regrind the cams for around $150-400. However downtime would be a b****.
Old Aug 12, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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Re: Info on new billet cams

Originally posted by i30krab
They are a mild street strip grind, not a full race design.
Does anyone know if these cams would adversely affect a 5th gen. running a 100 shot?
Old Aug 13, 2002 | 04:20 AM
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Wow, I remember my old muscle car days when you could bolt on another several hundred horsepower for $1500 dollars. Is this really worth it? Like another 20-30hp is really going to transform a Maxima? Not to mention the installation - yikes!
Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by CFster
Wow, I remember my old muscle car days when you could bolt on another several hundred horsepower for $1500 dollars. Is this really worth it? Like another 20-30hp is really going to transform a Maxima? Not to mention the installation - yikes!

Yeah but you could also buy a brand new Z28 for $4000 back in the late 60's as well. You have to take inflation into account. $1500 back in 1970 is like 7 grand now.
Old Aug 13, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Actually, it's more like most cars now you can't do a thing with. There are a few left, like a Mustang - I could spend $1500 and get another 100hp at least, and that's just motor. No NOS. It's one of the few cars you can do something with. I just don't see the point in spending that kind of money on a Maxima or any other car like it for a measly 30hp. And not to mention the labor - 11 hours in the book to do a timing chain (which will have to come apart to do the cams, as well as a lot of other things). Unless you're doing the job yourself (and it is a ****), you're going to spend more for the labor than the parts. I mean, when you are talking about that little horsepower, a difference of wheel weight or how much fuel is in the tank (weight) or how many people happen to be in the car might make you faster or slower than the next Maxima. It's really negligable. Look at the different 1/4 mile times posted by people on this board with stock Maximas. There all over the place, sometimes a two second difference.
Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by CFster
Actually, it's more like most cars now you can't do a thing with. There are a few left, like a Mustang - I could spend $1500 and get another 100hp at least, and that's just motor. No NOS. It's one of the few cars you can do something with. I just don't see the point in spending that kind of money on a Maxima or any other car like it for a measly 30hp. And not to mention the labor - 11 hours in the book to do a timing chain (which will have to come apart to do the cams, as well as a lot of other things). Unless you're doing the job yourself (and it is a ****), you're going to spend more for the labor than the parts. I mean, when you are talking about that little horsepower, a difference of wheel weight or how much fuel is in the tank (weight) or how many people happen to be in the car might make you faster or slower than the next Maxima. It's really negligable. Look at the different 1/4 mile times posted by people on this board with stock Maximas. There all over the place, sometimes a two second difference.
You've got to pay to play. I'm not entirely certain your estimate of 100 hp on a new stang for $1500 is accurate but that's neither here nor there. If you want to have a quick maxima you've got to be willing to pay for it. Otherwise buy a cheaper car to modify, like a mustang.
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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Stock cams FS?

So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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This is a very interesting turn of events.
I've been hounding JWT about VQ cams for years, and I always got the same response ("oh, next winter" ) looks like it was all B.S. after all..

I'm looking forward to seeing the gains made from these cams. I guarantee they'll be higher than you think. I've talked with Brian Catts about cams, and he's always been excited about their possibility, citing that the stock cams have very conservative timing.

Another interesting fact: a west coaster did prototype some custom cams in his 99 last year. While his car couldn't idle with the cams, the gains were, tremendous

But I'll let him disclose the gains if he feels like it
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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Re: Z to VG!?

Originally posted by Badaxxima

WHAT!?!


You have any links to those writeups (NOT on the .org, I'm already searching)?
Go to z31.com - there's a ton of information about about vg30 upgrades- turbo and NA. Nismo87 also knows more than anyone else about this.
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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Re: Stock cams FS?

LOL . You have to goto a salveyard and get an extra set of heads. www.car-part.com I've found several core or running VQ30DE's for $300-800 across the US. BTW buy a FSM now so you know where to link up the cam sprockets and timing chains.

Originally posted by BEJAY1
So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Stock cams FS?

Originally posted by BEJAY1
So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
Well, look no further! I have the first set of these new JWT cams in my car and they are awesome. I even have that muscle car cam lope. The idle is slightly rough due to the loping but it's no big deal. I can guarantee you these are worth the money!
As far as exhaust noise, the car is definitley louder but it is a powerful type of sound and people notice that you are driving a bad *** machine. Of course I had a lot of machining done and new pistons etc.

By the way, I do have the 4 stock cams for sale. If you want them make me a resonable offer.
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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Re: Re: Stock cams FS?

How is drivability? ahh..screw drivability...how does the power feel? would you say, 20-40HP?

Were there any problems with the install?

Please tell us more
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
Old Aug 28, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?

Originally posted by Iron Lung
How is drivability? ahh..screw drivability...how does the power feel? would you say, 20-40HP?

Were there any problems with the install?

Please tell us more
The car really pulls hard, like I said "awesome"!
The cams fit perfectly but you have to use the higher reving VQ30DET valve springs.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?

Originally posted by i30krab


The car really pulls hard, like I said "awesome"!
The cams fit perfectly but you have to use the higher reving VQ30DET valve springs.
So...it's possible that with the combination of JWT cams, VQ30DET valve springs, MEVI and a retuned ECU to raise limiter, a VQ30 could continue making power to 7k?

if it is, then I am sooo in
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Sweet, now I just need $1100...
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?

Originally posted by La Jolla Max


So...it's possible that with the combination of JWT cams, VQ30DET valve springs, MEVI and a retuned ECU to raise limiter, a VQ30 could continue making power to 7k?

if it is, then I am sooo in
That is definately correct. Our engine would be a monster with cams in addition to all the other bolt-ons. I can't remember where, but I read that someone tested cams on thier max and gained 40hp , the only problem is that the car wouldn't idle, so I figure these to have a somewhat rough idle, but still some mad power up top. Probably not for the automatic cars because I bet some of the low end torque is gone.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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Doesn't JWT sell the valve springs? Or do we have to find a DET to get them off of? This is very interesting. Maybe I'll put off getting a set of different wheels if these cams are readily avaialble
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?

Originally posted by 96sleeper

I can't remember where, but I read that someone tested cams on thier max and gained 40hp
look at my previous post. that's what I was alluding to
40hp and 22lb-ft
and he tested them before the ME VI was available
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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Holy Shnikeys!!!! Imagine what the VI would do on a cammed VQ(4th gen)!!!!!!! Even for an auto, once that thing got going, I bet it be pretty darn fast! But a 5spd,
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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Any of you in souther california wanna give me a job???


"Will Work For Cams"
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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Just got my first paycheck today from my new job... looks like my pay for the next month or two will be going towards the JWT ECU and cams fund!
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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it all sounds really good plus 1100 for 4 cams aint bad. my brother paid that for 2 cams in his GSR (Jun stage 3)

Originally posted by emax95
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
one question, are the cams for the vq30 for boosted car or N/A? i30krab's car is boosted so did they make a 1-off set for his S/Ced car and the rest are for us non booseted guys.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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n/a and FI cams are usually interchangable...at least for the VG30e and VG30et motors. the cams for both the non-turbo and turbo Z are the same thing, there are no specific types! my guess is that the dyno/HP results will of course differ depending on whether you are boosted or not.


Originally posted by DAREN
one question, are the cams for the vq30 for boosted car or N/A? i30krab's car is boosted so did they make a 1-off set for his S/Ced car and the rest are for us non booseted guys.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 09:12 PM
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I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
that would be interesting to know too! I nominate you as the guinea pig
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 12:14 AM
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awesome! I am going to set up a thread now, for donations
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by emax95
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
What does JWT say re: power gains? Do they have dynos?
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Can someone get a dyno sheet on these badboys
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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The STOCK cams may be interchangeable, but cams for an SC or turbo car have different needs than cams for an N/A car. N/A cams would work OK on a boosted car, but for optimal power, you would want specific cams for boost applications. Cams for a boosted car on an NA car are a no-no.
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
Cams for a boosted car on an NA car are a no-no.
don't think so....check this out--->

http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml

I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


don't think so....check this out--->

http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml

I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
Addae you need to get your car finished first hehe
Old Aug 30, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


don't think so....check this out--->

http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml

I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!

Hmmm, interesting. I stand corrected. I think what I may be thinking of is the timing of the cams. Boosted cars need different amounts of overlap than N/A cars do I belive.
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Both of you are partially correct. While a NA motor can use turbo cams, they won't be as effective as NA cams. Conversely NA cams on a turbo would have benefits but not as many or effective as a cam made for boost. But then again this is on a SOHC engine where cam timing or overlap isn't adjusted. However a typical stage I grind would work well in NA or boost, considering how mild the VQ cams are.

Originally posted by Nealoc187



Hmmm, interesting. I stand corrected. I think what I may be thinking of is the timing of the cams. Boosted cars need different amounts of overlap than N/A cars do I belive.
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VG30DE cams shouldn't be put in a VE30DE, not unless you want valve to piston contact. The VG cams have more lift because the of the smaller length valves. I compared the total lift including the valve displacement and it is the same for the VE and VGDE. To get cams all you have to do is send in some cores and tell the cam builder what specs you want. Now JWT offers cams for the VG30DE (TT) too, so all you have to do is send them 4 new billet cams (not used cams out of a motor) and they will reground them. BTW blank billet cams from nissan cost around $200 each.

Originally posted by dmontzmax
I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 08:19 AM
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I just found this thread do these power gains still hold up.
If so i will order these cams very soon.Where is i30krab?
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