Info on new billet cams
#81
a little late finding this thread..but what someone was saying about dropping the oil pan is- there's two bolts that come from inside the pan to the bottom side of the timing chain cover- i dropped one of the timing chain tensioner bolts down the case when i was putting new water pump into car and no...its not fun to take off the timing chain case
#82
There is a cheaper alternative
If one doesn't want to pay $1k for JWT cams, you can always get the factory cams reground. All you do is send your cams to a company like ISKY or Crower and tell them where/how you want the power made. Then they will regrind the cams for around $150-400. However downtime would be a b****.
#83
Re: Info on new billet cams
Originally posted by i30krab
They are a mild street strip grind, not a full race design.
They are a mild street strip grind, not a full race design.
#84
Wow, I remember my old muscle car days when you could bolt on another several hundred horsepower for $1500 dollars. Is this really worth it? Like another 20-30hp is really going to transform a Maxima? Not to mention the installation - yikes!
#85
Originally posted by CFster
Wow, I remember my old muscle car days when you could bolt on another several hundred horsepower for $1500 dollars. Is this really worth it? Like another 20-30hp is really going to transform a Maxima? Not to mention the installation - yikes!
Wow, I remember my old muscle car days when you could bolt on another several hundred horsepower for $1500 dollars. Is this really worth it? Like another 20-30hp is really going to transform a Maxima? Not to mention the installation - yikes!
Yeah but you could also buy a brand new Z28 for $4000 back in the late 60's as well. You have to take inflation into account. $1500 back in 1970 is like 7 grand now.
#86
Actually, it's more like most cars now you can't do a thing with. There are a few left, like a Mustang - I could spend $1500 and get another 100hp at least, and that's just motor. No NOS. It's one of the few cars you can do something with. I just don't see the point in spending that kind of money on a Maxima or any other car like it for a measly 30hp. And not to mention the labor - 11 hours in the book to do a timing chain (which will have to come apart to do the cams, as well as a lot of other things). Unless you're doing the job yourself (and it is a ****), you're going to spend more for the labor than the parts. I mean, when you are talking about that little horsepower, a difference of wheel weight or how much fuel is in the tank (weight) or how many people happen to be in the car might make you faster or slower than the next Maxima. It's really negligable. Look at the different 1/4 mile times posted by people on this board with stock Maximas. There all over the place, sometimes a two second difference.
#87
Originally posted by CFster
Actually, it's more like most cars now you can't do a thing with. There are a few left, like a Mustang - I could spend $1500 and get another 100hp at least, and that's just motor. No NOS. It's one of the few cars you can do something with. I just don't see the point in spending that kind of money on a Maxima or any other car like it for a measly 30hp. And not to mention the labor - 11 hours in the book to do a timing chain (which will have to come apart to do the cams, as well as a lot of other things). Unless you're doing the job yourself (and it is a ****), you're going to spend more for the labor than the parts. I mean, when you are talking about that little horsepower, a difference of wheel weight or how much fuel is in the tank (weight) or how many people happen to be in the car might make you faster or slower than the next Maxima. It's really negligable. Look at the different 1/4 mile times posted by people on this board with stock Maximas. There all over the place, sometimes a two second difference.
Actually, it's more like most cars now you can't do a thing with. There are a few left, like a Mustang - I could spend $1500 and get another 100hp at least, and that's just motor. No NOS. It's one of the few cars you can do something with. I just don't see the point in spending that kind of money on a Maxima or any other car like it for a measly 30hp. And not to mention the labor - 11 hours in the book to do a timing chain (which will have to come apart to do the cams, as well as a lot of other things). Unless you're doing the job yourself (and it is a ****), you're going to spend more for the labor than the parts. I mean, when you are talking about that little horsepower, a difference of wheel weight or how much fuel is in the tank (weight) or how many people happen to be in the car might make you faster or slower than the next Maxima. It's really negligable. Look at the different 1/4 mile times posted by people on this board with stock Maximas. There all over the place, sometimes a two second difference.
#89
This is a very interesting turn of events.
I've been hounding JWT about VQ cams for years, and I always got the same response ("oh, next winter" ) looks like it was all B.S. after all..
I'm looking forward to seeing the gains made from these cams. I guarantee they'll be higher than you think. I've talked with Brian Catts about cams, and he's always been excited about their possibility, citing that the stock cams have very conservative timing.
Another interesting fact: a west coaster did prototype some custom cams in his 99 last year. While his car couldn't idle with the cams, the gains were, tremendous
But I'll let him disclose the gains if he feels like it
I've been hounding JWT about VQ cams for years, and I always got the same response ("oh, next winter" ) looks like it was all B.S. after all..
I'm looking forward to seeing the gains made from these cams. I guarantee they'll be higher than you think. I've talked with Brian Catts about cams, and he's always been excited about their possibility, citing that the stock cams have very conservative timing.
Another interesting fact: a west coaster did prototype some custom cams in his 99 last year. While his car couldn't idle with the cams, the gains were, tremendous
But I'll let him disclose the gains if he feels like it
#90
Re: Z to VG!?
Originally posted by Badaxxima
WHAT!?!
You have any links to those writeups (NOT on the .org, I'm already searching)?
WHAT!?!
You have any links to those writeups (NOT on the .org, I'm already searching)?
#91
Re: Stock cams FS?
LOL . You have to goto a salveyard and get an extra set of heads. www.car-part.com I've found several core or running VQ30DE's for $300-800 across the US. BTW buy a FSM now so you know where to link up the cam sprockets and timing chains.
Originally posted by BEJAY1
So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
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Re: Stock cams FS?
Originally posted by BEJAY1
So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
So who's ordering these already? I'm looking for used stock CAMS on the FS section and nothing
As far as exhaust noise, the car is definitley louder but it is a powerful type of sound and people notice that you are driving a bad *** machine. Of course I had a lot of machining done and new pistons etc.
By the way, I do have the 4 stock cams for sale. If you want them make me a resonable offer.
#94
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
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Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?
Originally posted by Iron Lung
How is drivability? ahh..screw drivability...how does the power feel? would you say, 20-40HP?
Were there any problems with the install?
Please tell us more
How is drivability? ahh..screw drivability...how does the power feel? would you say, 20-40HP?
Were there any problems with the install?
Please tell us more
The cams fit perfectly but you have to use the higher reving VQ30DET valve springs.
#96
Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?
Originally posted by i30krab
The car really pulls hard, like I said "awesome"!
The cams fit perfectly but you have to use the higher reving VQ30DET valve springs.
The car really pulls hard, like I said "awesome"!
The cams fit perfectly but you have to use the higher reving VQ30DET valve springs.
if it is, then I am sooo in
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?
Originally posted by La Jolla Max
So...it's possible that with the combination of JWT cams, VQ30DET valve springs, MEVI and a retuned ECU to raise limiter, a VQ30 could continue making power to 7k?
if it is, then I am sooo in
So...it's possible that with the combination of JWT cams, VQ30DET valve springs, MEVI and a retuned ECU to raise limiter, a VQ30 could continue making power to 7k?
if it is, then I am sooo in
#99
Doesn't JWT sell the valve springs? Or do we have to find a DET to get them off of? This is very interesting. Maybe I'll put off getting a set of different wheels if these cams are readily avaialble
#100
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stock cams FS?
Originally posted by 96sleeper
I can't remember where, but I read that someone tested cams on thier max and gained 40hp
I can't remember where, but I read that someone tested cams on thier max and gained 40hp
40hp and 22lb-ft
and he tested them before the ME VI was available
#104
it all sounds really good plus 1100 for 4 cams aint bad. my brother paid that for 2 cams in his GSR (Jun stage 3)
one question, are the cams for the vq30 for boosted car or N/A? i30krab's car is boosted so did they make a 1-off set for his S/Ced car and the rest are for us non booseted guys.
Originally posted by emax95
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
#105
n/a and FI cams are usually interchangable...at least for the VG30e and VG30et motors. the cams for both the non-turbo and turbo Z are the same thing, there are no specific types! my guess is that the dyno/HP results will of course differ depending on whether you are boosted or not.
Originally posted by DAREN
one question, are the cams for the vq30 for boosted car or N/A? i30krab's car is boosted so did they make a 1-off set for his S/Ced car and the rest are for us non booseted guys.
one question, are the cams for the vq30 for boosted car or N/A? i30krab's car is boosted so did they make a 1-off set for his S/Ced car and the rest are for us non booseted guys.
#107
Originally posted by dmontzmax
I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
#109
Originally posted by emax95
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
I called JWT yesterday to ask a few qustions about these cams. What I found out is that the cams for the VQ30(95-01) are currently available. The VQ35(02-03) cams are not quite finsished yet and he wants me to call back in 4-5 weeks for a update. I was also told the cams will cost about $1100(not bad for 4 IMO). When these become available I will probably get them. With this and a new intake manifold I should be putting down about 250 FWHP NA
#111
The STOCK cams may be interchangeable, but cams for an SC or turbo car have different needs than cams for an N/A car. N/A cams would work OK on a boosted car, but for optimal power, you would want specific cams for boost applications. Cams for a boosted car on an NA car are a no-no.
#112
Originally posted by Nealoc187
Cams for a boosted car on an NA car are a no-no.
Cams for a boosted car on an NA car are a no-no.
http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml
I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
#113
Originally posted by DA-MAX
don't think so....check this out--->
http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml
I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
don't think so....check this out--->
http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml
I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
#114
Originally posted by DA-MAX
don't think so....check this out--->
http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml
I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
don't think so....check this out--->
http://www.z31.com/cams.shtml
I know of 2 guys who are using turbo VGT cams in their N/A VG Maximas, so I have to disagree with your staetment!
Hmmm, interesting. I stand corrected. I think what I may be thinking of is the timing of the cams. Boosted cars need different amounts of overlap than N/A cars do I belive.
#115
Both of you are partially correct. While a NA motor can use turbo cams, they won't be as effective as NA cams. Conversely NA cams on a turbo would have benefits but not as many or effective as a cam made for boost. But then again this is on a SOHC engine where cam timing or overlap isn't adjusted. However a typical stage I grind would work well in NA or boost, considering how mild the VQ cams are.
Originally posted by Nealoc187
Hmmm, interesting. I stand corrected. I think what I may be thinking of is the timing of the cams. Boosted cars need different amounts of overlap than N/A cars do I belive.
Hmmm, interesting. I stand corrected. I think what I may be thinking of is the timing of the cams. Boosted cars need different amounts of overlap than N/A cars do I belive.
#116
VG30DE cams shouldn't be put in a VE30DE, not unless you want valve to piston contact. The VG cams have more lift because the of the smaller length valves. I compared the total lift including the valve displacement and it is the same for the VE and VGDE. To get cams all you have to do is send in some cores and tell the cam builder what specs you want. Now JWT offers cams for the VG30DE (TT) too, so all you have to do is send them 4 new billet cams (not used cams out of a motor) and they will reground them. BTW blank billet cams from nissan cost around $200 each.
Originally posted by dmontzmax
I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
I am now searching around to see if these would work in the VE...but I am pretty sure the Z cams would work too...
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