Lookie here

 

I wish I could see some HP #'s! At 5200 RPM the G makes about 205 RWHP. Thats about 5 less HP then my slitely modded max. The G is probably putting down about 15-20 more HP then a auto max at 5200 RPM, not bad. I want to see what happens at 6000 RPM though

 

That guy mentioned he'd be posting the HP plots soon.

Hmm.. i wonder if the Z is overrated TQ-wise? .... naahh.

 

I plotted out the whp curve and the car makes 217rwhp @ 6000rpm.

 

That is very impressive! Time to get me a new intake manifold

Compered to a auto max (since the G is auto) that is a good 25 HP increase and to top it off it is comming from the rear wheels. In general a FWD car's power train loss is less then a RWD car. So if the maxima is indeed making 255 crank HP the G must be making right about 280-285 crank hp according to nissan over rated rating system. Looks like the G got underated to stay out of it's big brother Z's way

 

Then again it is a 5spd auto vs a 4spd auto, although it shouldn't make a difference. Another thing is that if you go by the peak flywheel torque the G35 loses 40tq at the wheels. Automagic maxima's lose the same amount but they don't maintain the torque curve as the G35 does.

 

I think the G35 has the same intake manifold as the Z and this is why there top end is quite a bit better.

 

Could it be better gearing as the G35 is RWD? There may be more loss in the FWD drivetrain due to the increased stress.

 

Agreed. But the guy mentioned that the torque curve is the same between the G35 and the Maxima. The torque graphs look nothing alike. And from this graph it does appear that the intake manifold is a single stage design.

 

I researched it and it definatly is a single stage manifold. I'm going to try to check the Z and the G's manifold part #'s on Monday and I am also going to try to get a price on the G35's manifold.

 

Me? I said #, not curve

 

 

Then explain to me why I can configure a brand new Maxima SE 6 speed (4 doors) for about $30 grand and still beat the G35 in straight line.

 

I expected this, especially being in a Maxima forum.


1st the Maximas are FWD, and for that reason alone I would never buy another one. The handling is pure a*s (what is the slamon speed again ?). The Infiniti competes with the likes of BMW, MB, and Lexus.
while Nissan competes against Acura (what is it type S?)at best.

straight lines are such a weak way of comparing cars, not mentioning a 6speed vs. Automatic (how cute).

using your logic; why not buy an impala SS drop some money and run 12s all day in the 1/4 mile and save yourself the rest of money ?

 

Infiniti - BMW/MB/Lexus/Acura/Audi/etc...
Nissan - Toyota/Honda/VW/etc...

 

You very well should have expected it. You come into a Maxima forum and claim the G35 owns all for $30grand. In 80% of the scenarios that is probably true. The G35 is a bada$$ car that is long overdue; at least in this country. As for the Maxima handling and it's competing markets, I think you should actually drive one for awhile and then report back with your opinions then. I doubt it will compete with the G35 on a road course but it would do extremely well for it's configuration. I compared the 6 speed vs. the G35 auto only because there is no 6 speed for the G35. And the truth is the auto Maxima is VERY close behind the G35. If you want to do a comparison you need to put paramaters on it. You can't just throw out an overly general statemant and not get some type of flack in return. When the G35 6 speed finally comes out we will finally get a better comparison.

 

damn straight

 

G35 is an all around sports sedan, not a family sedan. Auto for Auto the G35 is slightly faster. The G35 put up some impressive slalom and braking numbers, which the Maxima cannot touch. Straight line performance isnt everything.

 

The G35 will be a sports sedan when it comes out with a manual tranny, until then it is just a sporty sedan

 

Magazine racing wise, the G35 is significantly faster and quicker than the auto 3.5VQ in the Infiniti I35/Altima SE (low 15s@93mph). The 2k2 Maxima has yet to be tested by any mag yet (auto or 6 speed). The G35 5 speed auto runs 14.6-14.8@96+mph as tested by nearly every publication. SO magazine wise, the G35 is clearly the faster car. I know that there have been a select few stock auto Maximas that have hit 14s, but most are still in 15s in stock form. I'd have to say most stock G35s will easily be in the 14s. SOme may even get lower 14s under the right conditions. With an intake, catback, and possibly headers from the 350Z, the auto G35 may be capable of 13s.

IMO, what is clearly holding the auto Altima/I35/Maxima back is the wide ratio 4 speed. With 5 gears to choose from, the G35 probably makes most of it's gains simply from much better gearing, especially in 1st and 2nd.

Also, are you guys saying the G35/350Z isn't using a variable intake manifold? It is fellas, take a closer look.


Dave

 

It's not.

 

Show me a closer look. From the parts breakdown I have seen at the parts department and that dyno chart I would say it isn't a dual. If you see something we don't then please post a diagram.

 

I have the whole diagram of the intake and it is a single stage intake. If you want to see more proof just look at the dyno, you will notice the power curve never dips which would happen to a car equpped with VIM.

 

I thought the G35 4 door did 0-60 in 5.9...but I just heard it's the new 6spd COUPE that's going to be doing it in 5.9 ...I thought the coupe was going to be a much faster car, like a low 5 second - high 4 second car to compete with the likes of the Cobra's, z28 SS's, Vettes, M-series bimmer's, ect.

You guys talk about straight line acceleration isn't everything, but your talking in favor of the Max right? Given the same transmissions, wouldn't the G35 beat the Maxima out the hole almost everytime do to it's drivetrain? (RWD vs. FWD) It seems this is where the G35 is going to soar over the Max.

 

I would say no. A 6 speed G35 will probably be more even with the Max than it is now but it simply does not make the same amount of low end torque. The G35 is also about 100 pounds heavier than the Max. I would even say that the current auto Max will leave an Auto G35 sitting at the stoplight. Of course the G would catch the Max right before the end of the track.

The G35's rear drive would be a huge advantage if both cars were modded though. And with good enough tires to do a higher RPM launch a stock G 6 speed could probably beat a Max. We'll really just have to wait and see how it turns out.

 

If I'm not mistaken, there is going to be a higher parasitic power loss on the G since it has to rotate a heavy driveshaft in addition to the axles. We'll see what numbers it puts up when the 6spd comes to town.

Jesse

 

But... doesn't G35 have a light weight drive shaft? or is that only for the Z?

 

I think the Max would do very well with the G35 on a rolling start due to traction not being a factor but if you launch a G35 correctly, it will smoke the auto Max 2k2.

The G35 is just a much overall better car in almost every area. Interior, exterior (although subjective), and performance. It is the car the 6th gen Maxima should have been

 

going back to the top

 

guy still hasn't posted hp dyno??