F*** The Potenzas....
08-05-2002, 06:05 PM
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F*** The Potenzas....
im extremely ****ed off rite now, but im kind of relieved at the same time....i was heading down the 71 South [socal ppl] to a friends house and was gonna connect to the 91 West [toward beach cities, he lives in yorba linda]...the 71 was coming to an end and a junction to the 91 was approaching and there is construction ongoing around there and speeds are limited to about 35-40 cuz there are a lot of cars and 1 narrow lane....so im going about 35 and everybody in front of me goes 91 East and i see the on ramp, wide and not too sharp, but i know my tires [stock re92s w/ 29k miles] cant handle too much so i dont push it a lot, i get up MAYBE 45, more like 40ish, and i hear my tires squealing and even before i let off the gas, i can feel my back end break completely loose...so im thinkn WTF? cuz ive never been in this type of situation, then i make the mistake of slamming the brakes ABS kicks in, wheels lock so i couldnt turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, the car pulls like 90 degree turn and im skidding towards the curb which goes into a ditch about 50 ft down...and i hit the curb driver side first and skid for about 10 ft on the curb...as soon as i realize it, i pull the ebrake and look around...all this dirt is flying onto my car and im shaking....i ended up w/ the passeneger side rear wheel in the air barely off the curb, driver side rear on the fwy, and the front two in dirt...im hella lucky for quite a few reasons,
1) nobody else was involved and i was alone in the car
2) no major damage except i need a new left side side skirt cuz its basically gone....and it sounds like something is loose in the front of the car when i go over bumps...hopefully its just the shocks though...surprisingly, even though i hit the curb w/ quite some force, all my rims are ok
3) i didnt get hurt
but i am sooooo ****ed cuz all this could have been avoided had i gotten new tires when i should have....
i have a couple choices now from costco...most likely in 235/45/17
Michelein Pilot Sport A/S - $216.00/tire
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
Kumho Ectsa Supra 712 - $80-90/tire
they dont even carry SO-3 Polepositions so thats not an option, unless i can get em from somewhere else...let me know what you would go w/ and why, even if its not on the list....btw, i held off on getting new tires cuz i was planning on getting rims/tires as soon as rain season started, but now thats not gonna happen...so i dont really wanna spend too much on tires cuz i might get new rims/tires anyway, but maybe not
thanks for reading
atw
1) nobody else was involved and i was alone in the car
2) no major damage except i need a new left side side skirt cuz its basically gone....and it sounds like something is loose in the front of the car when i go over bumps...hopefully its just the shocks though...surprisingly, even though i hit the curb w/ quite some force, all my rims are ok
3) i didnt get hurt
but i am sooooo ****ed cuz all this could have been avoided had i gotten new tires when i should have....
i have a couple choices now from costco...most likely in 235/45/17
Michelein Pilot Sport A/S - $216.00/tire
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
Kumho Ectsa Supra 712 - $80-90/tire
they dont even carry SO-3 Polepositions so thats not an option, unless i can get em from somewhere else...let me know what you would go w/ and why, even if its not on the list....btw, i held off on getting new tires cuz i was planning on getting rims/tires as soon as rain season started, but now thats not gonna happen...so i dont really wanna spend too much on tires cuz i might get new rims/tires anyway, but maybe not
thanks for reading
atw
08-05-2002, 06:13 PM
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I'm sure the experience was horrible but the damage is not too bad. It should all be under $1000 including a brand new set of tires. Go Michelin if you can afford them, they are the best. Call and ask TireRack for yourself. 
And aren't your rims only 7" wide? You're going to put a 235/45-17 on that? 
-Cyrus
And aren't your rims only 7" wide? You're going to put a 235/45-17 on that? -Cyrus
08-05-2002, 06:18 PM
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Wow, sorry to hear about that one dude. I hope you find a set of tires you'll be much happier with. I suppose I am the only Maxima driver in the world that likes the RE92's. I just don't seem to have the problems that everyone else describes. hmm Maybe it's because I beat the crap out of them and they stay soft. Who knows.
just my .02
just my .02
08-05-2002, 06:40 PM
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That really sucks, I hope you get everything fixed up for cheap.
And then go spend some money on a mid level driving course, they really are an awesome investment. they teach you how to understand and utilize the car and its dynamics, like weight shift, and traction and whatnot... Its well worth the money. I'm trying to get my parents to spring the money to send me to one of the race driving schools, like bondurant down in arizona...
And then go spend some money on a mid level driving course, they really are an awesome investment. they teach you how to understand and utilize the car and its dynamics, like weight shift, and traction and whatnot... Its well worth the money. I'm trying to get my parents to spring the money to send me to one of the race driving schools, like bondurant down in arizona...
08-05-2002, 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
That really sucks, I hope you get everything fixed up for cheap.
And then go spend some money on a mid level driving course, they really are an awesome investment. they teach you how to understand and utilize the car and its dynamics, like weight shift, and traction and whatnot... Its well worth the money. I'm trying to get my parents to spring the money to send me to one of the race driving schools, like bondurant down in arizona...
That really sucks, I hope you get everything fixed up for cheap.
And then go spend some money on a mid level driving course, they really are an awesome investment. they teach you how to understand and utilize the car and its dynamics, like weight shift, and traction and whatnot... Its well worth the money. I'm trying to get my parents to spring the money to send me to one of the race driving schools, like bondurant down in arizona...
yea im gonna talk to my dad about this tonight too...i read something on the org about this and saw something on the news about it too so as soon as i realized what happened i said im gonna go take some classes cuz its supposed to teach you what i should have done in that situation and maybe avoided this catastrophe....
atw
08-05-2002, 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrus
I'm sure the experience was horrible but the damage is not too bad. It should all be under $1000 including a brand new set of tires. Go Michelin if you can afford them, they are the best. Call and ask TireRack for yourself. And aren't your rims only 7" wide? You're going to put a 235/45-17 on that?
-Cyrus
I'm sure the experience was horrible but the damage is not too bad. It should all be under $1000 including a brand new set of tires. Go Michelin if you can afford them, they are the best. Call and ask TireRack for yourself.
And aren't your rims only 7" wide? You're going to put a 235/45-17 on that? -Cyrus
I've seen numerous Michelin sidewall problems in my line of work. Perhaps more so than other tires. People think they're great because they're OEM on a lot of cars. The reason they make OEM tires is because their sidewalls are a hair thinner than others, which results in a quieter ride and a lower MPG rating (which is important to the auto makers - even though the tires cost them more). People also think they must be good because they are expensive, where as other people such as myself see them as overpriced instead. I've usually managed to find equal if not better wear with tires which cost half as much. That goes for regular tires, performance tires, and truck tires.
Let the flaming begin.
08-05-2002, 07:13 PM
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Re: F*** The Potenzas....
Originally posted by MaxedOut2g
im extremely ****ed off rite now, but im kind of relieved at the same time....i was heading down the 71 South [socal ppl] to a friends house and was gonna connect to the 91 West [toward beach cities, he lives in yorba linda]...the 71 was coming to an end and a junction to the 91 was approaching and there is construction ongoing around there and speeds are limited to about 35-40 cuz there are a lot of cars and 1 narrow lane....so im going about 35 and everybody in front of me goes 91 East and i see the on ramp, wide and not too sharp, but i know my tires [stock re92s w/ 29k miles] cant handle too much so i dont push it a lot, i get up MAYBE 45, more like 40ish, and i hear my tires squealing and even before i let off the gas, i can feel my back end break completely loose...so im thinkn WTF? cuz ive never been in this type of situation, then i make the mistake of slamming the brakes ABS kicks in, wheels lock so i couldnt turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, the car pulls like 90 degree turn and im skidding towards the curb which goes into a ditch about 50 ft down...and i hit the curb driver side first and skid for about 10 ft on the curb...as soon as i realize it, i pull the ebrake and look around...all this dirt is flying onto my car and im shaking....i ended up w/ the passeneger side rear wheel in the air barely off the curb, driver side rear on the fwy, and the front two in dirt...im hella lucky for quite a few reasons,
1) nobody else was involved and i was alone in the car
2) no major damage except i need a new left side side skirt cuz its basically gone....and it sounds like something is loose in the front of the car when i go over bumps...hopefully its just the shocks though...surprisingly, even though i hit the curb w/ quite some force, all my rims are ok
3) i didnt get hurt
but i am sooooo ****ed cuz all this could have been avoided had i gotten new tires when i should have....
i have a couple choices now from costco...most likely in 235/45/17
Michelein Pilot Sport A/S - $216.00/tire
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
Kumho Ectsa Supra 712 - $80-90/tire
they dont even carry SO-3 Polepositions so thats not an option, unless i can get em from somewhere else...let me know what you would go w/ and why, even if its not on the list....btw, i held off on getting new tires cuz i was planning on getting rims/tires as soon as rain season started, but now thats not gonna happen...so i dont really wanna spend too much on tires cuz i might get new rims/tires anyway, but maybe not
thanks for reading
atw
im extremely ****ed off rite now, but im kind of relieved at the same time....i was heading down the 71 South [socal ppl] to a friends house and was gonna connect to the 91 West [toward beach cities, he lives in yorba linda]...the 71 was coming to an end and a junction to the 91 was approaching and there is construction ongoing around there and speeds are limited to about 35-40 cuz there are a lot of cars and 1 narrow lane....so im going about 35 and everybody in front of me goes 91 East and i see the on ramp, wide and not too sharp, but i know my tires [stock re92s w/ 29k miles] cant handle too much so i dont push it a lot, i get up MAYBE 45, more like 40ish, and i hear my tires squealing and even before i let off the gas, i can feel my back end break completely loose...so im thinkn WTF? cuz ive never been in this type of situation, then i make the mistake of slamming the brakes ABS kicks in, wheels lock so i couldnt turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, the car pulls like 90 degree turn and im skidding towards the curb which goes into a ditch about 50 ft down...and i hit the curb driver side first and skid for about 10 ft on the curb...as soon as i realize it, i pull the ebrake and look around...all this dirt is flying onto my car and im shaking....i ended up w/ the passeneger side rear wheel in the air barely off the curb, driver side rear on the fwy, and the front two in dirt...im hella lucky for quite a few reasons,
1) nobody else was involved and i was alone in the car
2) no major damage except i need a new left side side skirt cuz its basically gone....and it sounds like something is loose in the front of the car when i go over bumps...hopefully its just the shocks though...surprisingly, even though i hit the curb w/ quite some force, all my rims are ok
3) i didnt get hurt
but i am sooooo ****ed cuz all this could have been avoided had i gotten new tires when i should have....
i have a couple choices now from costco...most likely in 235/45/17
Michelein Pilot Sport A/S - $216.00/tire
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
Kumho Ectsa Supra 712 - $80-90/tire
they dont even carry SO-3 Polepositions so thats not an option, unless i can get em from somewhere else...let me know what you would go w/ and why, even if its not on the list....btw, i held off on getting new tires cuz i was planning on getting rims/tires as soon as rain season started, but now thats not gonna happen...so i dont really wanna spend too much on tires cuz i might get new rims/tires anyway, but maybe not
thanks for reading
atw
08-05-2002, 07:32 PM
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Re: F*** The Potenzas....
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Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
atw [/B]
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
atw [/B]
I don't know wassup with Bridgestone but they're the same or they bought Firestone. With so many choices why not steer clear? A new 745Li pulled up next to me Sunday with the stock 18's as opposed to the optional 19's. I look over and WTF it has Bridgestone Turanzas. Spend that much cheddar and you still can't escape Firestone's reach.
08-05-2002, 07:37 PM
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i heard the re730's are amazing...i was driving my mom's 2k1 5spd tonight(my car is in the body shop getting kit and a few other things painted) Those tires are **** and they were JUST replaced with 2 new fronts. Geez what crappy *** tires...then again my mom doesn't push the car at all so i guess its fine for her.
08-05-2002, 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by CFster
Michelin = overrated. TireRack says whatever tire they happen to be pushing at the moment is the best. Which is usually Michelin because they make the most off of them.
I've seen numerous Michelin sidewall problems in my line of work. Perhaps more so than other tires. People think they're great because they're OEM on a lot of cars. The reason they make OEM tires is because their sidewalls are a hair thinner than others, which results in a quieter ride and a lower MPG rating (which is important to the auto makers - even though the tires cost them more). People also think they must be good because they are expensive, where as other people such as myself see them as overpriced instead. I've usually managed to find equal if not better wear with tires which cost half as much. That goes for regular tires, performance tires, and truck tires.
Let the flaming begin.
Michelin = overrated. TireRack says whatever tire they happen to be pushing at the moment is the best. Which is usually Michelin because they make the most off of them.
I've seen numerous Michelin sidewall problems in my line of work. Perhaps more so than other tires. People think they're great because they're OEM on a lot of cars. The reason they make OEM tires is because their sidewalls are a hair thinner than others, which results in a quieter ride and a lower MPG rating (which is important to the auto makers - even though the tires cost them more). People also think they must be good because they are expensive, where as other people such as myself see them as overpriced instead. I've usually managed to find equal if not better wear with tires which cost half as much. That goes for regular tires, performance tires, and truck tires.
Let the flaming begin.
08-05-2002, 08:27 PM
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I happen to love my Potenza RE950's.
Sorry to hear about your spin out. There could have been other factors that caused you to loose traction, like you said there was a lot of construction which means maybe oil or loose rocks were all over the road. And slamming your brakes did not help much either.
The RE92 are not performance tires.
If you want to give Bridgestone/Firestone another chance PM me with your address and I send you a special discount card for new Bridgestone tires.
I recomend the RE950 for all around performance and daily driving.
Sorry to hear about your spin out. There could have been other factors that caused you to loose traction, like you said there was a lot of construction which means maybe oil or loose rocks were all over the road. And slamming your brakes did not help much either.
The RE92 are not performance tires.
If you want to give Bridgestone/Firestone another chance PM me with your address and I send you a special discount card for new Bridgestone tires.
I recomend the RE950 for all around performance and daily driving.
08-05-2002, 10:10 PM
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amen....
I was in a similar situation, got tons of damage, but it didn't happen as dramatic. Thankfully no one was around me, and it only involved me. In the end, its only money, and only a car....but I didn't choose to have a $$30grand death wish.
Even the SubaruWRX dudes got some beef with the RE92s (Their stock tires too). AWD can't even make these tires handle good.
Might as well use these stinkin things for oversized erasers.
I am in a similar search for better tires and possibly rims, the absolute best...money ain't no factor (much
)....and to take this thing out to an autocross to get to know the car and tires better
I was in a similar situation, got tons of damage, but it didn't happen as dramatic. Thankfully no one was around me, and it only involved me. In the end, its only money, and only a car....but I didn't choose to have a $$30grand death wish.
Even the SubaruWRX dudes got some beef with the RE92s (Their stock tires too). AWD can't even make these tires handle good.
Might as well use these stinkin things for oversized erasers.
I am in a similar search for better tires and possibly rims, the absolute best...money ain't no factor (much
)....and to take this thing out to an autocross to get to know the car and tires better
08-05-2002, 11:32 PM
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Re: F*** The Potenzas....
Originally posted by MaxedOut2g
im extremely ****ed off rite now, but im kind of relieved at the same time....i was heading down the 71 South [socal ppl] to a friends house and was gonna connect to the 91 West [toward beach cities, he lives in yorba linda]...the 71 was coming to an end and a junction to the 91 was approaching and there is construction ongoing around there and speeds are limited to about 35-40 cuz there are a lot of cars and 1 narrow lane....so im going about 35 and everybody in front of me goes 91 East and i see the on ramp, wide and not too sharp, but i know my tires [stock re92s w/ 29k miles] cant handle too much so i dont push it a lot, i get up MAYBE 45, more like 40ish, and i hear my tires squealing and even before i let off the gas, i can feel my back end break completely loose...so im thinkn WTF? cuz ive never been in this type of situation, then i make the mistake of slamming the brakes ABS kicks in, wheels lock so i couldnt turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, the car pulls like 90 degree turn and im skidding towards the curb which goes into a ditch about 50 ft down...and i hit the curb driver side first and skid for about 10 ft on the curb...as soon as i realize it, i pull the ebrake and look around...all this dirt is flying onto my car and im shaking....i ended up w/ the passeneger side rear wheel in the air barely off the curb, driver side rear on the fwy, and the front two in dirt...im hella lucky for quite a few reasons,
1) nobody else was involved and i was alone in the car
2) no major damage except i need a new left side side skirt cuz its basically gone....and it sounds like something is loose in the front of the car when i go over bumps...hopefully its just the shocks though...surprisingly, even though i hit the curb w/ quite some force, all my rims are ok
3) i didnt get hurt
but i am sooooo ****ed cuz all this could have been avoided had i gotten new tires when i should have....
i have a couple choices now from costco...most likely in 235/45/17
Michelein Pilot Sport A/S - $216.00/tire
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
Kumho Ectsa Supra 712 - $80-90/tire
they dont even carry SO-3 Polepositions so thats not an option, unless i can get em from somewhere else...let me know what you would go w/ and why, even if its not on the list....btw, i held off on getting new tires cuz i was planning on getting rims/tires as soon as rain season started, but now thats not gonna happen...so i dont really wanna spend too much on tires cuz i might get new rims/tires anyway, but maybe not
thanks for reading
atw
im extremely ****ed off rite now, but im kind of relieved at the same time....i was heading down the 71 South [socal ppl] to a friends house and was gonna connect to the 91 West [toward beach cities, he lives in yorba linda]...the 71 was coming to an end and a junction to the 91 was approaching and there is construction ongoing around there and speeds are limited to about 35-40 cuz there are a lot of cars and 1 narrow lane....so im going about 35 and everybody in front of me goes 91 East and i see the on ramp, wide and not too sharp, but i know my tires [stock re92s w/ 29k miles] cant handle too much so i dont push it a lot, i get up MAYBE 45, more like 40ish, and i hear my tires squealing and even before i let off the gas, i can feel my back end break completely loose...so im thinkn WTF? cuz ive never been in this type of situation, then i make the mistake of slamming the brakes ABS kicks in, wheels lock so i couldnt turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction, the car pulls like 90 degree turn and im skidding towards the curb which goes into a ditch about 50 ft down...and i hit the curb driver side first and skid for about 10 ft on the curb...as soon as i realize it, i pull the ebrake and look around...all this dirt is flying onto my car and im shaking....i ended up w/ the passeneger side rear wheel in the air barely off the curb, driver side rear on the fwy, and the front two in dirt...im hella lucky for quite a few reasons,
1) nobody else was involved and i was alone in the car
2) no major damage except i need a new left side side skirt cuz its basically gone....and it sounds like something is loose in the front of the car when i go over bumps...hopefully its just the shocks though...surprisingly, even though i hit the curb w/ quite some force, all my rims are ok
3) i didnt get hurt
but i am sooooo ****ed cuz all this could have been avoided had i gotten new tires when i should have....
i have a couple choices now from costco...most likely in 235/45/17
Michelein Pilot Sport A/S - $216.00/tire
Bridgestone Potenza re730 - $157/tire
Kumho Ectsa Supra 712 - $80-90/tire
they dont even carry SO-3 Polepositions so thats not an option, unless i can get em from somewhere else...let me know what you would go w/ and why, even if its not on the list....btw, i held off on getting new tires cuz i was planning on getting rims/tires as soon as rain season started, but now thats not gonna happen...so i dont really wanna spend too much on tires cuz i might get new rims/tires anyway, but maybe not
thanks for reading
atw
Just wondering, what PSI are you running in front/rear tires?
Glad your alright.
08-06-2002, 12:08 AM
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theres nothing wrong with Firestone/Bridgestone tires. And i dont see why someone would think a Turanza would suck juss by glancing over at it??? RE92's isnt really a good tire for high performance, but for the everyday driver it does its job fine.
anyways, im with CFster when he says Michellins are overpriced. yea some of their tires are good but people seem to get the impression that more money=more tire. Im in the tire industry also and we ususally see more Michellins with probs then other tires.
anyways, im with CFster when he says Michellins are overpriced. yea some of their tires are good but people seem to get the impression that more money=more tire. Im in the tire industry also and we ususally see more Michellins with probs then other tires.
08-06-2002, 01:05 AM
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Maxedout2g, I urge you to take your car to the Dealer or your nearest mechanic and have your car's suspension looked at. If you slid into a curb, most likely your car's suspension has some sort of damage, and im guessing a bent control arm.
08-06-2002, 02:18 AM
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RE92s are not very good tires... they will last you a long time though I believe- they are by no means performance tires
of ALLLLLL the tires out there my favorites are all Bridgestone... S02s S03s RE730s... Michelins are just overpriced and dont perform any better
I'm sorry about what happened, but next time invest in a set of hi performance tires...
take George up on his RE730 offer- they are great tires
of ALLLLLL the tires out there my favorites are all Bridgestone... S02s S03s RE730s... Michelins are just overpriced and dont perform any better
I'm sorry about what happened, but next time invest in a set of hi performance tires...
take George up on his RE730 offer- they are great tires
08-06-2002, 07:33 AM
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Sorry to hear about it, though i'm glad you and the car came out okay.
As for the train of events, i have a couple of questions if anyone wishes to discuss them.
1) If ABS engaged, why did his wheels lock? Was the evasive maneuver beyond the scope of what ABS was designed for?
2) If the rear wheels broke loose and instead of slamming on the brakes he, instead, kept on the gas (and then some) could the events have turned for the better?
Just curious, should something similar happen to anyone of us.
Thanks.
- Mike
As for the train of events, i have a couple of questions if anyone wishes to discuss them.
1) If ABS engaged, why did his wheels lock? Was the evasive maneuver beyond the scope of what ABS was designed for?
2) If the rear wheels broke loose and instead of slamming on the brakes he, instead, kept on the gas (and then some) could the events have turned for the better?
Just curious, should something similar happen to anyone of us.
Thanks.
- Mike
08-06-2002, 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by carnal_c30
RE92s are not very good tires... they will last you a long time though I believe- they are by no means performance tires
of ALLLLLL the tires out there my favorites are all Bridgestone... S02s S03s RE730s... Michelins are just overpriced and dont perform any better
I'm sorry about what happened, but next time invest in a set of hi performance tires...
take George up on his RE730 offer- they are great tires
RE92s are not very good tires... they will last you a long time though I believe- they are by no means performance tires
of ALLLLLL the tires out there my favorites are all Bridgestone... S02s S03s RE730s... Michelins are just overpriced and dont perform any better
I'm sorry about what happened, but next time invest in a set of hi performance tires...
take George up on his RE730 offer- they are great tires
08-06-2002, 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
If you want to give Bridgestone/Firestone another chance PM me with your address and I send you a special discount card for new Bridgestone tires.
I recomend the RE950 for all around performance and daily driving.
If you want to give Bridgestone/Firestone another chance PM me with your address and I send you a special discount card for new Bridgestone tires.
I recomend the RE950 for all around performance and daily driving.
08-06-2002, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Sorry to hear about it, though i'm glad you and the car came out okay.
As for the train of events, i have a couple of questions if anyone wishes to discuss them.
1) If ABS engaged, why did his wheels lock? Was the evasive maneuver beyond the scope of what ABS was designed for?
2) If the rear wheels broke loose and instead of slamming on the brakes he, instead, kept on the gas (and then some) could the events have turned for the better?
Just curious, should something similar happen to anyone of us.
Thanks.
- Mike
Sorry to hear about it, though i'm glad you and the car came out okay.
As for the train of events, i have a couple of questions if anyone wishes to discuss them.
1) If ABS engaged, why did his wheels lock? Was the evasive maneuver beyond the scope of what ABS was designed for?
2) If the rear wheels broke loose and instead of slamming on the brakes he, instead, kept on the gas (and then some) could the events have turned for the better?
Just curious, should something similar happen to anyone of us.
Thanks.
- Mike
And when his rear tires broke loose, hitting the brakes worsened the effect, b/c is shifted more weight to the front and away from the rears. However, I don't know that goosing the throttle would have helped do anything other than cause the fronts to break loose, causing the whole car to slide out instead of just the rears.
What i was taught in my course was that during a rear tail slide in a FF car, do not use any pedal input at the onset, but keep your eyes at the point you want to head, and steer that way. It worked everytime at the course, and once or twice in my old car on the road....
08-06-2002, 02:43 PM
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I'm glad no one's hurt; that's the main thing. But I must say that you've used a dumb name for this thread; blaming the tires for your mishap. It's just like blaming the Maxima. You could have said "F*** the Maxima, this wouldn't have happened if I were in a M3".
08-06-2002, 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by JMAX95
I'm glad no one's hurt; that's the main thing. But I must say that you've used a dumb name for this thread; blaming the tires for your mishap. It's just like blaming the Maxima. You could have said "F*** the Maxima, this wouldn't have happened if I were in a M3".
I'm glad no one's hurt; that's the main thing. But I must say that you've used a dumb name for this thread; blaming the tires for your mishap. It's just like blaming the Maxima. You could have said "F*** the Maxima, this wouldn't have happened if I were in a M3".
08-06-2002, 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Freedog
I see a lot of negative stuff about tires, but no positive. Hook a brotha' up, what do you guys consider good street performance tires and why?
I see a lot of negative stuff about tires, but no positive. Hook a brotha' up, what do you guys consider good street performance tires and why?
08-06-2002, 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
theres nothing wrong with Firestone/Bridgestone tires. And i dont see why someone would think a Turanza would suck juss by glancing over at it??? RE92's isnt really a good tire for high performance, but for the everyday driver it does its job fine.
anyways, im with CFster when he says Michellins are overpriced. yea some of their tires are good but people seem to get the impression that more money=more tire. Im in the tire industry also and we ususally see more Michellins with probs then other tires.
theres nothing wrong with Firestone/Bridgestone tires. And i dont see why someone would think a Turanza would suck juss by glancing over at it??? RE92's isnt really a good tire for high performance, but for the everyday driver it does its job fine.
anyways, im with CFster when he says Michellins are overpriced. yea some of their tires are good but people seem to get the impression that more money=more tire. Im in the tire industry also and we ususally see more Michellins with probs then other tires.
It costs $1300 more for a 275/40-19 performance tire in the rear, and a 245/45-19 on the front. I am surprised that someone would spend nearly 80 thousand dollars and not go $1300 more for decent rims/tires.
08-06-2002, 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Yes, they do s*** just by glancing over. Pop quiz, you pay over $73,000 for a car, you want a Bridgestone 50-series TOURING tire on your car? WTF?
It costs $1300 more for a 275/40-19 performance tire in the rear, and a 245/45-19 on the front. I am surprised that someone would spend nearly 80 thousand dollars and not go $1300 more for decent rims/tires.
Yes, they do s*** just by glancing over. Pop quiz, you pay over $73,000 for a car, you want a Bridgestone 50-series TOURING tire on your car? WTF?
It costs $1300 more for a 275/40-19 performance tire in the rear, and a 245/45-19 on the front. I am surprised that someone would spend nearly 80 thousand dollars and not go $1300 more for decent rims/tires.
08-06-2002, 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by JMAX95
Every tire has it's purpose. That's why the range of prices for tires is so wide. For performance these Bridgestones may suck, but they can probably beat most performance tires in terms of mileage you get from them. Perhaps with 19's you're getting 25k miles and opposed to 35k from the cheapy Bridgestones. So does this mean your performance tires suck?
Every tire has it's purpose. That's why the range of prices for tires is so wide. For performance these Bridgestones may suck, but they can probably beat most performance tires in terms of mileage you get from them. Perhaps with 19's you're getting 25k miles and opposed to 35k from the cheapy Bridgestones. So does this mean your performance tires suck?
The 745Li is a 4400 lb. car that can reach 60 in under 6 seconds. Should it have a performance tire, or a smooth, cheap, and tall TOURING tire? When the price is $1300 to go performance? What did Phish say, tires are the objects on your car that make contact with the road?
08-06-2002, 06:24 PM
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08-08-2002, 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Yes, they do s*** just by glancing over. Pop quiz, you pay over $73,000 for a car, you want a Bridgestone 50-series TOURING tire on your car? WTF?
It costs $1300 more for a 275/40-19 performance tire in the rear, and a 245/45-19 on the front. I am surprised that someone would spend nearly 80 thousand dollars and not go $1300 more for decent rims/tires.
Yes, they do s*** just by glancing over. Pop quiz, you pay over $73,000 for a car, you want a Bridgestone 50-series TOURING tire on your car? WTF?
It costs $1300 more for a 275/40-19 performance tire in the rear, and a 245/45-19 on the front. I am surprised that someone would spend nearly 80 thousand dollars and not go $1300 more for decent rims/tires.
08-08-2002, 04:21 PM
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Turanza = touring, ya think? Sorry, I don't go that way. They s***, and you can tell by reading the name. Are they sufficient on an Altima 2.5 S? Yep. A Maxima GLE? Yep. A BMW 745Li that costs almost 80 grand with options? Nope, 50-series rubber is way too tall. $1300 more for 275/40-19 and 245/45-19 is worth it. But if the idea of not having a tall, soft-riding touring tire scares you go with the 18's and save $1300. Your pocketbook will thank you. Members of the BMWCCA will think you're a cheap *** 
08-08-2002, 04:48 PM
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sorry to hear about the mishap but glad to hear your ok... as soon as i bought my car last year the first thing i did was replace the stock tires the very first day i had her... the car was sitting on the stock toyos and i upgraded them to the toyo fz4 215/5VWR16s i love em... also as someone said if you could take the driving course, ive taken it before and it helps alot in those type of situatiions...
08-09-2002, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Turanza = touring, ya think? Sorry, I don't go that way. They s***, and you can tell by reading the name. Are they sufficient on an Altima 2.5 S? Yep. A Maxima GLE? Yep. A BMW 745Li that costs almost 80 grand with options? Nope, 50-series rubber is way too tall. $1300 more for 275/40-19 and 245/45-19 is worth it. But if the idea of not having a tall, soft-riding touring tire scares you go with the 18's and save $1300. Your pocketbook will thank you. Members of the BMWCCA will think you're a cheap ***
Turanza = touring, ya think? Sorry, I don't go that way. They s***, and you can tell by reading the name. Are they sufficient on an Altima 2.5 S? Yep. A Maxima GLE? Yep. A BMW 745Li that costs almost 80 grand with options? Nope, 50-series rubber is way too tall. $1300 more for 275/40-19 and 245/45-19 is worth it. But if the idea of not having a tall, soft-riding touring tire scares you go with the 18's and save $1300. Your pocketbook will thank you. Members of the BMWCCA will think you're a cheap ***