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Old 08-07-2002, 08:31 AM
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Okay, 6 weeks after installing a supercharger, I am hungry for more Horsepower.
My kills so far:
Chevy Camaro SS (modded), Corvette, BMW 330ci, VW Jetta 1.8T(modded), Grand Prix GTP's, Modded Civics (don't know why I even bother).
Yesterday evening, I lost to a Lexus IS300. It was on I-290 heading west. Raced from 50 mph to 120mph. I started in 3rd gear @ about 50-60mph.
The Lexus had extra wide rear wheels...guessing 255-265 width tires, lowered, exhaust, tinted.
No idea what was under the hood. It did have a red emblem on the trunk... "SRT" or "STR"...not sure 'cause it was a little dark.

I have the Greddy SP exhaust on its way. What else, besides going with a smaller pulley, can I do to make a few extra ponies? No Nitrous...please.
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Hmm... time to join Bally's
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Holy Smokes!
These guys make Supercharger AND Turbo kits for the damn IS300's.
SC kits:
http://www.swiftracing.com/engine/super.htm

Turbo Kits!!!

Thanks Kev. I don't feel so bad anymore...
especially after looking at their pricing. 6-8psi boost for $7,000!! That is DOUBLE of what I paid for the Stillen kit.
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Yeah that's one of the more interesting things about the IS300. Not only did they use a 6 cylinder but the same inline 6 as the NA supra.
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Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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I have the Greddy SP exhaust on its way. What else, besides going with a smaller pulley, can I do to make a few extra ponies? No Nitrous...please.
What pulley are you on now? A pulley upgrade is the best bet for more power.

I checked your web page for your mod list and didnt see too much info. I dont know what you have, but here is some basic recomendations.

Y pipe
MEVI
SC CAI
Test Pipe
AFC and dyno tune
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Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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What pulley are you on now? A pulley upgrade is the best bet for more power.

I checked your web page for your mod list and didnt see too much info. I dont know what you have, but here is some basic recomendations.
I seriously need to update my website!! Anyways...
I'm running a 3.33" pulley, stock Stillen belts & FMU.
Y pipe - Already have a Budget Exhaust Y-pipe.

MEVI - Good Idea! Are they still doing GD on this? Ideally I want some more oomph 5K rpms & below.

SC CAI - How do I do this? Is it very difficult to do? How much HP approximately is this worth? What about water getting into the filter?

Test Pipe - Warpspeed...correct? I heard that this is only good for 1-2 hp?!?

AFC and dyno tune - I'm not sure how the AFC works & how I can tune it.

What about Water spray kit on the radiator? Intercooler is a little too pricey for my wallet.
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Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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I seriously need to update my website!! Anyways...
I'm running a 3.33" pulley, stock Stillen belts & FMU.
Y pipe - Already have a Budget Exhaust Y-pipe.

MEVI - Good Idea! Are they still doing GD on this? Ideally I want some more oomph 5K rpms & below.

SC CAI - How do I do this? Is it very difficult to do? How much HP approximately is this worth? What about water getting into the filter?

Test Pipe - Warpspeed...correct? I heard that this is only good for 1-2 hp?!?

AFC and dyno tune - I'm not sure how the AFC works & how I can tune it.

What about Water spray kit on the radiator? Intercooler is a little too pricey for my wallet.

MEVI would be a huge bang for the buck for you. 25+hp for boosted maxes. A test pipe might only be worth 1-2 hp for a N/A max, but a boosted max will see a good gain, and they are only $35 from warpspeed.
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Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

Originally posted by dashingMax
Ideally I want some more oomph 5K rpms & below.

AFC and dyno tune - I'm not sure how the AFC works & how I can tune it.

What about Water spray kit on the radiator? Intercooler is a little too pricey for my wallet.
If you want low end power the AFC is the way to go

Find a performance shop in your area that sells AFC's and has a dyno, they can help you the best.

Water spray on the radiator? You must be confused, this is not done.
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Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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Okay, 6 weeks after installing a supercharger, I am hungry for more Horsepower.
My kills so far:
Chevy Camaro SS (modded), Corvette, BMW 330ci, VW Jetta 1.8T(modded), Grand Prix GTP's, Modded Civics (don't know why I even bother).
Yesterday evening, I lost to a Lexus IS300. It was on I-290 heading west. Raced from 50 mph to 120mph. I started in 3rd gear @ about 50-60mph.
The Lexus had extra wide rear wheels...guessing 255-265 width tires, lowered, exhaust, tinted.
No idea what was under the hood. It did have a red emblem on the trunk... "SRT" or "STR"...not sure 'cause it was a little dark.

I have the Greddy SP exhaust on its way. What else, besides going with a smaller pulley, can I do to make a few extra ponies? No Nitrous...please.
You beat a "modded" SS camaro? WoW! Gotta get a video camera running in that ride of yours soon! How badly did the Lexus beat you?
 
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Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

Bobby page me on my pger 888 919 5344 or send me a PM with your number on there
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Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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You beat a "modded" SS camaro? WoW! Gotta get a video camera running in that ride of yours soon! How badly did the Lexus beat you?
I don't know how badly modded the Camaro was...but he did have a loud aftermarket exhaust & rims. Could be lowered, but then again, those cars com pretty low from the factory.

The Lexus got me pretty bad...
It seemed like I was stock & he was the ONLY boosted car. Part of the problem was also the fact that I did not quite redline my Max. I tend to baby it too much...hence looking for some low end OOMPH...
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Originally posted by NickStam
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I lost 20 pounds... that should equal out to 20 more horses at the wheel, right?

I was thinking about going down a couple of sizes in my pulley and changing my plugs. But, nothing to serious. I'm not rich like Kevin.
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Originally posted by smokedford


I lost 20 pounds... that should equal out to 20 more horses at the wheel, right?

I was thinking about going down a couple of sizes in my pulley and changing my plugs. But, nothing to serious. I'm not rich like Kevin.
Is not about been rich like kevin is about knowing what you are doing!!!I know your J/K but peep this out.....


Want more power redo your complete exhaust if you dont have one. If you do drop a $27 test pipe on there and a custom CAI on that V2 and wrap that cross over pipe to keep heat off that tube, after you do those three things there come back thank me and repost. No joke seriously!!!

The wrap can be brought from summit racing, it has velcro on it since we dont have intercoolers.
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Bobby you need to take that needle down to 65000, RPMs if you go a bit higher the engine will buck, so dont worry thats fuel cutoff point and watch her pull, but thats to squeeze all the possible boost out of that blower. So once in a while it wont hurt the car. Your not running 10.5lbs plus boost so chill the car will be alright.
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get an intercooler and raise the boost.
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IS 300 uses the same I-6 from the SUpra, mods are realtively easy to add once you have the dough.....
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The wrap will be the fastest and cheapest thing you can do. But that's not going to satisfy you. In order to gain the REAL power that you really want, you're going to have to spend more money. Once you have your new exhuast in, you'll notice a difference. I'd wait until the Greddy exhaust is installed before spending more cash. But then...soon that won't be enough. Your previous posts don't say if you have changed your spark plugs yet. Have you?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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MEVI would be a huge bang for the buck for you. 25+hp for boosted maxes. A test pipe might only be worth 1-2 hp for a N/A max, but a boosted max will see a good gain, and they are only $35 from warpspeed.
I gained +36hp with my MEVI

And yes, I will be doing another GD, probably in a month, assuming 6-10 people want to wait the 3+ months shipping time.

The good news is I only need 50% down right away, and the other 50% when they are ready to ship to the USA.

Anyway, we'll see what the interest is when I'm ready to do it.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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I gained +36hp with my MEVI

And yes, I will be doing another GD, probably in a month, assuming 6-10 people want to wait the 3+ months shipping time.

The good news is I only need 50% down right away, and the other 50% when they are ready to ship to the USA.

Anyway, we'll see what the interest is when I'm ready to do it.

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how different is the mevi for the fourth gen than that of a fifth gen? another alternative is getting those in taiwan.. and i think it's more doable because a good amount of ppl on this board frequent trips back there.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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how different is the mevi for the fourth gen than that of a fifth gen? another alternative is getting those in taiwan.. and i think it's more doable because a good amount of ppl on this board frequent trips back there.
I don't know about Taiwan, except that most of them over there that people have found appear to be the 2.5 Liter version that won't work. (ports are too small).

But you could always try.

I only make $20 per unit, so it makes little difference to me. The only reason I sell them is because poeple want them, and I hae a contact.

The 5th Gen ones are shaped different, and won't fit.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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I don't know about Taiwan, except that most of them over there that people have found appear to be the 2.5 Liter version that won't work. (ports are too small).

But you could always try.

I only make $20 per unit, so it makes little difference to me. The only reason I sell them is because poeple want them, and I hae a contact.

The 5th Gen ones are shaped different, and won't fit.

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they have the vq30de there too.. but yeh alot of em' run the smaller motor because of tax purposes.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More SC HP...without losing reliability

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they have the vq30de there too.. but yeh alot of em' run the smaller motor because of tax purposes.
I know, that's what I was saying.

A contact both in Taiwan and New Zealand I found knew that the parts existed in their countries, but The NZ guy couldn't find any, and the Taiwan one couldn't find more than 1 after spending days looking for them.

And they wanted $700US for it.

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I know, that's what I was saying.

A contact both in Taiwan and New Zealand I found knew that the parts existed in their countries, but The NZ guy couldn't find any, and the Taiwan one couldn't find more than 1 after spending days looking for them.

And they wanted $700US for it.

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ohh yehh.. i forgot.. the majority of the cefiro is built in tiawan, but the engine and chassis is from japan, so it'de cost a bit extra... hehehe imported stuff costs alot more there because of the import tax. i totally forgot about htat.
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Go with a smaller pulley!! oh yeah you little comment about racing modded civics thats not funny because I have a modded civic that would not loss to you. I love my max but my civic is my baby so dont feel to bad if you get walked by an allmotor civic.

mine only runs 12's allmotor so i can tell you first hand that some civic can move.

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Go with a smaller pulley!! oh yeah you little comment about racing modded civics thats not funny because I have a modded civic that would not loss to you. I love my max but my civic is my baby so dont feel to bad if you get walked by an allmotor civic.

mine only runs 12's allmotor so i can tell you first hand that some civic can move.

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You are running 12's in a Civic with a stock Civic motor??!?

Any Civic that runs 12's is usually soemthing else with a Civic chassis.

So what engine swap do you have?

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Originally posted by iansw


You are running 12's in a Civic with a stock Civic motor??!?

Any Civic that runs 12's is usually soemthing else with a Civic chassis.

So what engine swap do you have?

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well if he consideres juice as all motor then i guess that works too... coulda ported the engine out and most likely raised the compression.
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Originally posted by mingo
well if he consideres juice as all motor then i guess that works too... coulda ported the engine out and most likely raised the compression.
I forgot...Honda owners usually consider N02 a NA bolt-on

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Originally posted by smokedford
Your previous posts don't say if you have changed your spark plugs yet. Have you?
Yes I did change to OEM 1-step colder NGK plugs.
Would you happen to have a Summit Racing part# for the wrap?
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Originally posted by iansw

You are running 12's in a Civic with a stock Civic motor??!?
Any Civic that runs 12's is usually soemthing else with a Civic chassis.
So what engine swap do you have?
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You're right on the money IanS. This from his sig:
"b18c1 swap".
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Originally posted by dashingMax

Yes I did change to OEM 1-step colder NGK plugs.
Would you happen to have a Summit Racing part# for the wrap?
Thx
DEI-010408 is one of them. Search under Design Engineering or wrap. They have a boat load of stuff. Now, reading this thread, I'm thinking about getting a MEVI.
Good luck...
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Originally posted by smokedford

Now, reading this thread, I'm thinking about getting a MEVI.
Good luck...
We already have a variable intake manifold.
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We already have a variable intake manifold.


yes, its the cheap plastic looking thing under your hood...
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Test Pipe Smell?!?!

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Good luck...
Thanks smokedford. I'll order one today.
About the test pipe. Will I not get "rotten egg" smell since the test pipe will replace the catalytic converter?
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Re: Test Pipe Smell?!?!

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Thanks smokedford. I'll order one today.
About the test pipe. Will I not get "rotten egg" smell since the test pipe will replace the catalytic converter?
I have no rotten egg smell with my test pipe, I can just smell fuel every once in a while, but I run a little rich.
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Re: Re: Test Pipe Smell?!?!

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I have no rotten egg smell with my test pipe, I can just smell fuel every once in a while, but I run a little rich.

Same here. No rotten egg smell whatsoever. I hardly smell anything. Btw, I'm glad I got the test pipe. Definitely feel a bit of a difference. Although, it did make my exhaust a bit louder.
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Re: Re: Re: Test Pipe Smell?!?!

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Same here. No rotten egg smell whatsoever. I hardly smell anything. Btw, I'm glad I got the test pipe. Definitely feel a bit of a difference. Although, it did make my exhaust a bit louder.
What exhaust are you running?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Test Pipe Smell?!?!

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What exhaust are you running?

I'm running the Apexi WS exhaust.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Test Pipe Smell?!?!

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I'm running the Apexi WS exhaust.
Did you really notice a big difference between stock exhaust & the Apexi? The Apexi comes with a 2.25" b-pipe & 2.5" Muffler
The Greddy is 2.5 all the way & technically should provide better exhaust flow... just curious if you dyno'd before/after APexi install
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