any max vs integra gsr
08-08-2002, 08:56 PM
#2
Re: any max vs integra gsr
Originally posted by speedy3gen
alirght my friend just bought a 97 gsr hes got a j spec H22 ready to drop in and im wounderin whos max could take it cuz I know mine can't
alirght my friend just bought a 97 gsr hes got a j spec H22 ready to drop in and im wounderin whos max could take it cuz I know mine can't
08-09-2002, 12:35 AM
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Re: Re: any max vs integra gsr
I find it hard to believe that a STOCK GSR could keep up with an I/Y/E 5-speed maxima that runs mid to high 14s when the GSR at BEST runs low 15s.
I've run my friend's 2000 GSR with an AEM intake...and I smoke him every time....he close in first...and about a car back in second....but as soon as I hit third (walking gear) it's BU BYE Acura.
I've run my friend's 2000 GSR with an AEM intake...and I smoke him every time....he close in first...and about a car back in second....but as soon as I hit third (walking gear) it's BU BYE Acura.
08-09-2002, 12:58 PM
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Re: Re: Re: any max vs integra gsr
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
I find it hard to believe that a STOCK GSR could keep up with an I/Y/E 5-speed maxima that runs mid to high 14s when the GSR at BEST runs low 15s.
I've run my friend's 2000 GSR with an AEM intake...and I smoke him every time....he close in first...and about a car back in second....but as soon as I hit third (walking gear) it's BU BYE Acura.
I find it hard to believe that a STOCK GSR could keep up with an I/Y/E 5-speed maxima that runs mid to high 14s when the GSR at BEST runs low 15s.
I've run my friend's 2000 GSR with an AEM intake...and I smoke him every time....he close in first...and about a car back in second....but as soon as I hit third (walking gear) it's BU BYE Acura.
NE1 know the weight comparison between a H22 and B18 would be?
You could try searching a Hon-duh forum.
08-09-2002, 01:19 PM
#9
Well his GSR was insanely fast to start with, friday night special or something.
Also, GSR's 3rd and 4th gear is insanely fast, when i was stock I would get beat badly in 3rd and 4th by gsr's and then i'd catch up in 5th, but all drivers and cars are diff.
Also, GSR's 3rd and 4th gear is insanely fast, when i was stock I would get beat badly in 3rd and 4th by gsr's and then i'd catch up in 5th, but all drivers and cars are diff.
08-09-2002, 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by BrianV
Well his GSR was insanely fast to start with, friday night special or something.
Also, GSR's 3rd and 4th gear is insanely fast, when i was stock I would get beat badly in 3rd and 4th by gsr's and then i'd catch up in 5th, but all drivers and cars are diff.
Well his GSR was insanely fast to start with, friday night special or something.
Also, GSR's 3rd and 4th gear is insanely fast, when i was stock I would get beat badly in 3rd and 4th by gsr's and then i'd catch up in 5th, but all drivers and cars are diff.
08-09-2002, 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by BrianV
Well his GSR was insanely fast to start with, friday night special or something.
Also, GSR's 3rd and 4th gear is insanely fast, when i was stock I would get beat badly in 3rd and 4th by gsr's and then i'd catch up in 5th, but all drivers and cars are diff.
Well his GSR was insanely fast to start with, friday night special or something.
Also, GSR's 3rd and 4th gear is insanely fast, when i was stock I would get beat badly in 3rd and 4th by gsr's and then i'd catch up in 5th, but all drivers and cars are diff.
08-09-2002, 03:46 PM
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Re: any max vs integra gsr
Originally posted by speedy3gen
alirght my friend just bought a 97 gsr hes got a j spec H22 ready to drop in and im wounderin whos max could take it cuz I know mine can't
alirght my friend just bought a 97 gsr hes got a j spec H22 ready to drop in and im wounderin whos max could take it cuz I know mine can't
Either car would give Maxima a serious headache in the twisties. But don't ever underestimate a car that has weight reducing features, like the Type R. Don't know why Nissan doesn't do stuff like that, as opposed to badges and rims. My friend said a crank sensor caused his new Sentra to fail. Pretty ridiculous.
08-09-2002, 09:41 PM
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Re: Re: any max vs integra gsr
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Take it in what way? Do you mean 0-60 or 1/4 mile in a straight line? There are probably many Maximas who could take it. And you mean GSR not Type R, right?
Either car would give Maxima a serious headache in the twisties. But don't ever underestimate a car that has weight reducing features, like the Type R. Don't know why Nissan doesn't do stuff like that, as opposed to badges and rims. My friend said a crank sensor caused his new Sentra to fail. Pretty ridiculous.
Take it in what way? Do you mean 0-60 or 1/4 mile in a straight line? There are probably many Maximas who could take it. And you mean GSR not Type R, right?
Either car would give Maxima a serious headache in the twisties. But don't ever underestimate a car that has weight reducing features, like the Type R. Don't know why Nissan doesn't do stuff like that, as opposed to badges and rims. My friend said a crank sensor caused his new Sentra to fail. Pretty ridiculous.
I raced my friends gsr (bone stock) and he kept up with me untill i got out of second, I also lost traction pretty badly.
08-11-2002, 11:11 AM
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Im BrianV's friend that used to have the 96 GSR, and yeah I did stay real close to him once i got my Catback exhaust system installed. Now I have a 99 se 5spd and both cars are extremly close. Either car will win depending on mods and especially the driver cause you have to know how to drive really well for a GSR.
Your friend would be making a huge mistake putting in an h22. Everyone knows that the B18c (before the s2k) was the craziest engine ever. When he puts in an h22 his car will be ****ed from the extra wieght cause the integra only weighs like 2600 lbs. Just cause the h22 has more hp doesnt mean its a better engine, cause its completly different. If he's paying big bucks for this he would be way better off going turbo or if he wants NA he should go with JDM type r engine. Good luck.
BTW If you dont belive me about the h22 swap go ask on honda forums.
Your friend would be making a huge mistake putting in an h22. Everyone knows that the B18c (before the s2k) was the craziest engine ever. When he puts in an h22 his car will be ****ed from the extra wieght cause the integra only weighs like 2600 lbs. Just cause the h22 has more hp doesnt mean its a better engine, cause its completly different. If he's paying big bucks for this he would be way better off going turbo or if he wants NA he should go with JDM type r engine. Good luck.
BTW If you dont belive me about the h22 swap go ask on honda forums.
08-12-2002, 09:07 PM
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Well to answer I have a few friends that run very high 13's all motor with only a few good thought out mods in the integra. As for the H22a swap its only 75 pounds heavier plus it has more tq and more hp. The only thing is the H22a is not the best motor pound for pound I would keep that B18c1 and work it. H22a doesnt have iron sleaves so it does not make a very boost happy motor. If it was me I would run a direct port nos system on it with a few other goodies and he would easly run 12's no prob.
tell him to throw that H22a in a civic and run low 13's all day with a few small bolt-ons but traction is going to be a bit#h.
Rich
tell him to throw that H22a in a civic and run low 13's all day with a few small bolt-ons but traction is going to be a bit#h.
Rich
08-12-2002, 11:18 PM
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Naturally aspirated the H22 has the advantage of displacement. The cylinder liners are great for regular wear but they have tons of problems w/ forged pistons and are paper thin so aftermarket sleeves are a must for anyone looking for serious power. If he wants NA power then the H22 is a decent choice. Otherwise if he wants a turbo, its a huge hassle to reinforce the block especially if he gets one out of a 5th Gen Prelude. Just ask anyone trying to get more than 9lbs out of a stock H22A4.
As for racing, Shadow and I have proven that a Maxima can in fact run slow as hell even w/ 9psi of boost with our consecutive 15.3's at the last Nopi Drag Wars. We did beat the crap out of a Mustang GT and a Eclipse GT but we didn't exactly look good out there either. BTW, Maximas may have decent hwy performance but a short geared/light weight GS-R or Type R w/ plenty of top end power still has an advantage. Of course this is only for the 5spd version. Shadow has the worst time on the hwy even w/ his supercharger. He's pretty slow pulling on me anything above 40-50. The Maxima's best shot is off the line where its got plenty of torque, especially those who can find enough traction. Most Hondas are extremely difficult to launch since they have little/no low end power so they either bog or roast the clutch off the launch. Another issue is the huge variance in GS-R's. They span 7 model years so some are in better shape than others. In addition some are OBD I and dyno 150+ to the wheels stock. That puts them in the range of 4th Gen auto Maximas while weighing significantly less than any Maxima.
As for racing, Shadow and I have proven that a Maxima can in fact run slow as hell even w/ 9psi of boost with our consecutive 15.3's at the last Nopi Drag Wars. We did beat the crap out of a Mustang GT and a Eclipse GT but we didn't exactly look good out there either. BTW, Maximas may have decent hwy performance but a short geared/light weight GS-R or Type R w/ plenty of top end power still has an advantage. Of course this is only for the 5spd version. Shadow has the worst time on the hwy even w/ his supercharger. He's pretty slow pulling on me anything above 40-50. The Maxima's best shot is off the line where its got plenty of torque, especially those who can find enough traction. Most Hondas are extremely difficult to launch since they have little/no low end power so they either bog or roast the clutch off the launch. Another issue is the huge variance in GS-R's. They span 7 model years so some are in better shape than others. In addition some are OBD I and dyno 150+ to the wheels stock. That puts them in the range of 4th Gen auto Maximas while weighing significantly less than any Maxima.
08-13-2002, 12:35 AM
#25
Originally posted by Mishap
Naturally aspirated the H22 has the advantage of displacement. The cylinder liners are great for regular wear but they have tons of problems w/ forged pistons and are paper thin so aftermarket sleeves are a must for anyone looking for serious power. If he wants NA power then the H22 is a decent choice. Otherwise if he wants a turbo, its a huge hassle to reinforce the block especially if he gets one out of a 5th Gen Prelude. Just ask anyone trying to get more than 9lbs out of a stock H22A4.
As for racing, Shadow and I have proven that a Maxima can in fact run slow as hell even w/ 9psi of boost with our consecutive 15.3's at the last Nopi Drag Wars. We did beat the crap out of a Mustang GT and a Eclipse GT but we didn't exactly look good out there either. BTW, Maximas may have decent hwy performance but a short geared/light weight GS-R or Type R w/ plenty of top end power still has an advantage. Of course this is only for the 5spd version. Shadow has the worst time on the hwy even w/ his supercharger. He's pretty slow pulling on me anything above 40-50. The Maxima's best shot is off the line where its got plenty of torque, especially those who can find enough traction. Most Hondas are extremely difficult to launch since they have little/no low end power so they either bog or roast the clutch off the launch. Another issue is the huge variance in GS-R's. They span 7 model years so some are in better shape than others. In addition some are OBD I and dyno 150+ to the wheels stock. That puts them in the range of 4th Gen auto Maximas while weighing significantly less than any Maxima.
Naturally aspirated the H22 has the advantage of displacement. The cylinder liners are great for regular wear but they have tons of problems w/ forged pistons and are paper thin so aftermarket sleeves are a must for anyone looking for serious power. If he wants NA power then the H22 is a decent choice. Otherwise if he wants a turbo, its a huge hassle to reinforce the block especially if he gets one out of a 5th Gen Prelude. Just ask anyone trying to get more than 9lbs out of a stock H22A4.
As for racing, Shadow and I have proven that a Maxima can in fact run slow as hell even w/ 9psi of boost with our consecutive 15.3's at the last Nopi Drag Wars. We did beat the crap out of a Mustang GT and a Eclipse GT but we didn't exactly look good out there either. BTW, Maximas may have decent hwy performance but a short geared/light weight GS-R or Type R w/ plenty of top end power still has an advantage. Of course this is only for the 5spd version. Shadow has the worst time on the hwy even w/ his supercharger. He's pretty slow pulling on me anything above 40-50. The Maxima's best shot is off the line where its got plenty of torque, especially those who can find enough traction. Most Hondas are extremely difficult to launch since they have little/no low end power so they either bog or roast the clutch off the launch. Another issue is the huge variance in GS-R's. They span 7 model years so some are in better shape than others. In addition some are OBD I and dyno 150+ to the wheels stock. That puts them in the range of 4th Gen auto Maximas while weighing significantly less than any Maxima.
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