Any cops out there that drive Maximas?
Originally posted by floridabornmax
Besides the maxima can go faster than most of those Crown V's
Besides the maxima can go faster than most of those Crown V's
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Maximas would break like Waterford Crystal in the line of duty. You fellas sometimes are overproud of the Maxima and not too realistic imho. Dang the beach ****** today!
Maximas would break like Waterford Crystal in the line of duty. You fellas sometimes are overproud of the Maxima and not too realistic imho. Dang the beach ****** today!
Originally posted by Riot^
You can't push the Maxima as much as you can push the cruiser.
Maximas are not built for that.
Besides, even the cruisers see their share of the shop every year.
You can't push the Maxima as much as you can push the cruiser.
Maximas are not built for that.
Besides, even the cruisers see their share of the shop every year.
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
It's the durability factor. Think about a NYC taxicab--that vehicle needs to be on the road 24/7. Why? Because of the Taxi medallion. That costs so much money that one cannot afford to have it sitting around making no money. A police car probably gets a little more rest, but it stands up to just as much wear/tear. They don't have time to say, oh wait, pull over, I think I need to add some distilled water to my dainty little battery with filler caps!
It's the durability factor. Think about a NYC taxicab--that vehicle needs to be on the road 24/7. Why? Because of the Taxi medallion. That costs so much money that one cannot afford to have it sitting around making no money. A police car probably gets a little more rest, but it stands up to just as much wear/tear. They don't have time to say, oh wait, pull over, I think I need to add some distilled water to my dainty little battery with filler caps!
Originally posted by floridabornmax
haha, ya I see what you mean, but I guess that could mean a $150,000 mercedes benz couldnt take the beating either.
haha, ya I see what you mean, but I guess that could mean a $150,000 mercedes benz couldnt take the beating either.
Sorry, but in a durability contest, the Ford wins. Why? It is a body-on-frame, rear-wheel-drive car using a single overhead cam engine. The design uses absolutely nothing hi-tech. Ford has repeatedly refused to put the Cobra motor into the Police Interceptors because it's not as durable as the 2-valve engine. DOHC 32 valves means more chance of something going wrong. As far as the frame vs. unibody issue, just look at how long the Chevy and Dodge police cars are lasting compared to the Fords. Older, simpler designs are just more durable.
Maxima police car--just would not work. Way too much hi-tech stuff that could go wrong under the heavy workload.
What we really need is more displacement on the Interceptor's engine. Ford keeps saying it doesn't have enough room for the 5.4 because it's too deep for the engine compartment. Well, there's plenty of room in front of the engine--enough to add two cylinders to the 4.6. I'd love to see a 300 hp+ 5.8 liter V-10 under the hood!
Maxima police car--just would not work. Way too much hi-tech stuff that could go wrong under the heavy workload.
What we really need is more displacement on the Interceptor's engine. Ford keeps saying it doesn't have enough room for the 5.4 because it's too deep for the engine compartment. Well, there's plenty of room in front of the engine--enough to add two cylinders to the 4.6. I'd love to see a 300 hp+ 5.8 liter V-10 under the hood!
It may, but don't forget the crusiers are not 150K, they are much less.
And the oil change, not to mention full maintenance on a Bentley is more than all the members on this forum make in one year.
It is a cost and durability factor.
So far Chevy and Ford came out on top.
And the oil change, not to mention full maintenance on a Bentley is more than all the members on this forum make in one year.
It is a cost and durability factor.
So far Chevy and Ford came out on top.
Originally posted by orgasmicNYC
Nissan cars could take the beating and so can MB. (Russian Police Drive over 25,000 MB). Police use American cars because they are the US police. Even the FBI will give you like 60% towards a domestic car while only 20% towards an import. Some cars are more reliable and durable then others but the Maxima does not suffer from either.
Nissan cars could take the beating and so can MB. (Russian Police Drive over 25,000 MB). Police use American cars because they are the US police. Even the FBI will give you like 60% towards a domestic car while only 20% towards an import. Some cars are more reliable and durable then others but the Maxima does not suffer from either.
Originally posted by floridabornmax
How can Russian Police afford MB's?
How can Russian Police afford MB's?
It is like buying a Ford here, for them it's a MB, or German Police uses BMW.
Originally posted by Riot^
They are manufactured in Germany, the shipping there and everything else is cheaper.
It is like buying a Ford here, for them it's a MB, or German Police uses BMW.
They are manufactured in Germany, the shipping there and everything else is cheaper.
It is like buying a Ford here, for them it's a MB, or German Police uses BMW.
I don't know about NYC Taxi cabs, but in Chicago there are some 4th gen maxima taxi cabs.... To be honest, I never understood why accords weren't used as cabs... Honda ran one (maybe it was a civic) at top speed for 3 days straight only stopping for fuel and it was fine....
questions
If a cop car can only do 130 ...that means a maxima can out run him in distance...but what about acceleration? Do they have the same stats as stock Camero's, and Crown victorias have? ......there all auto's too right??
-ChRi§
-ChRi§
Originally posted by floridabornmax
Yes, but it has to be more expensive than any car that ford makes or any american car for that matter. Ford makes cheap american cars and any cars that are american and even close to a benz or BMW are still twice as expensive as a ford to americans. A Benz or BMW have to be expensive anywhere. Look how nice they are compared to any american car.
Yes, but it has to be more expensive than any car that ford makes or any american car for that matter. Ford makes cheap american cars and any cars that are american and even close to a benz or BMW are still twice as expensive as a ford to americans. A Benz or BMW have to be expensive anywhere. Look how nice they are compared to any american car.
Oh, and almost all Taxi cabs in Germany are Benzes...while the great majority of cabs in the US (besides NYC) are Crown Vics....interesting huh?
Originally posted by tbirdrob
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What we really need is more displacement on the Interceptor's engine. Ford keeps saying it doesn't have enough room for the 5.4 because it's too deep for the engine compartment. Well, there's plenty of room in front of the engine--enough to add two cylinders to the 4.6. I'd love to see a 300 hp+ 5.8 liter V-10 under the hood!
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What we really need is more displacement on the Interceptor's engine. Ford keeps saying it doesn't have enough room for the 5.4 because it's too deep for the engine compartment. Well, there's plenty of room in front of the engine--enough to add two cylinders to the 4.6. I'd love to see a 300 hp+ 5.8 liter V-10 under the hood!
Oh, I would be PLENTY happy with a Marauder badged as a ford, painted white, with a lightbar on top. I guess, though, that that motor is the 32 Valve Cobra motor....
do any of you police have the aero light bars? ive seen a few of those...and its becoming more common.
btw, i dont dislike cops, but i get paranoid around them that im going to goof up, and get a ticket for doing something that i didnt realize i was doing...when there's so many things that are being done intentionally. does that make sense?
eric
*edit* just for the record, i am 20, and ive been pulled over on one moving violation, and have never gotten a ticket.
btw, i dont dislike cops, but i get paranoid around them that im going to goof up, and get a ticket for doing something that i didnt realize i was doing...when there's so many things that are being done intentionally. does that make sense?
eric
*edit* just for the record, i am 20, and ive been pulled over on one moving violation, and have never gotten a ticket.
Originally posted by nismo240sx
do any of you police have the aero light bars? ive seen a few of those...and its becoming more common.
btw, i dont dislike cops, but i get paranoid around them that im going to goof up, and get a ticket for doing something that i didnt realize i was doing...when there's so many things that are being done intentionally. does that make sense?
eric
do any of you police have the aero light bars? ive seen a few of those...and its becoming more common.
btw, i dont dislike cops, but i get paranoid around them that im going to goof up, and get a ticket for doing something that i didnt realize i was doing...when there's so many things that are being done intentionally. does that make sense?
eric
Relax and take a deep breath, all will be well!
I actually get the exact same feelings when I see police cars when I am not patrolling, and you know what? My father-in-law retired from 32 years with the Idaho State Police and he STILL gets those same feelings of anxiety! Just relax, and drive normally. Most officers (besides those that work STRICTLY traffic) are really very laid back about minor mistakes, like not signaling for a lane change, wandering 2 or 3mph over the limit, or other minor stuff. Just relax!We have many cars with the vector lights, the ones with multiple tear drop lights. They are sort of "aero." Some of the county cars units and lots of the dare cars have the very "aero" style lights.
You know the funny thing? I can pull up posts by members of this forum saying how they hate police officers and wish they would all die. But I won't.
I would really like to see them defend themselves against those comments, I really would. Because obviously, they are brave enough to spout off their anti-police rhetoric in other threads, but not in this one.
I would really like to see them defend themselves against those comments, I really would. Because obviously, they are brave enough to spout off their anti-police rhetoric in other threads, but not in this one.
Re: Just curious, for those who are police officers here >>
Originally posted by Albertt
Any of you guys use a .45 caliber handgun as a service pistol?
Any of you guys use a .45 caliber handgun as a service pistol?
Considered the HK USP Compact .40, but never a .45....The .40 is a good compromise between a 9mm and a .45. The .40 has nearly the stopping power of a .45, but not nearly as hot a round. I think that it is less suceptable to overpenetration, meaning that it is less likely to pass through a body or a wall.
Re: questions
Originally posted by MaxSpeedSE
If a cop car can only do 130 ...that means a maxima can out run him in distance...but what about acceleration? Do they have the same stats as stock Camero's, and Crown victorias have? ......there all auto's too right??
-ChRi§
If a cop car can only do 130 ...that means a maxima can out run him in distance...but what about acceleration? Do they have the same stats as stock Camero's, and Crown victorias have? ......there all auto's too right??
-ChRi§
Originally posted by d_warner
I'm a fulltime officer for Huntsville,TX and I drive a 2001 SE in silver Mist. I just choose not to comment on the street racing scene. And as for those who say f****** cop this and F****** cop that, Oh well. I can't help it if they get caught. You shouldn't do something illegal if you aren't willing to get caught. As for legal updates and questions I'll be more than happy to help those guys in TX. I can't help much anywhere else.
I'm a fulltime officer for Huntsville,TX and I drive a 2001 SE in silver Mist. I just choose not to comment on the street racing scene. And as for those who say f****** cop this and F****** cop that, Oh well. I can't help it if they get caught. You shouldn't do something illegal if you aren't willing to get caught. As for legal updates and questions I'll be more than happy to help those guys in TX. I can't help much anywhere else.
Originally posted by d_warner
OK. Several questions to answer here.
1)Texas state troopers are making approximately $28,000 while in the academy. Depending on where you live in Texas, that may or may not be good money. Once a Trooper graduates the mandatory 6 month academy in Austin, the pay goes to approximately $33,000 a year. As a local officer in Huntsville, I only make about $33,000 myself. In Huntsville, however thats not a bad salary. Most of the people in the county strive to bring in 20,000 a year.
2)I don't really have any complaints about my job. I hear Troopers all the time wishing they had not become troopers. Troopers pretty much just work traffic on public highways and work accidents. If you want to be what troopers themselves call "real officers" then you need to join a local police force or county agency. We unfornately get to deal with domestic violence calls, burglaries, roberies and the such. In addition, we too get to work traffic and accidents. To say the least, it reduces the boredom.
3)Police package vehicles have long been exagerated by supersticion. When a cars is equiped with a police package, it simply has much stronger suspension parts, reinforced frame rails, heavy duty alternator and air conditioning equipment, and occasionally an enhanced computer or fuel management system. Most people talk of heavily modified mustangs and camaros that will run in excess of 160 mph. There are a few TX DPS slick top camaros that could probably come close to that, but its not the norm. The average Police Crown Vic with the ever so aerodynamic lightbar will run around 130 mph continuously. Thats plenty fast enough considering the whole car only weighs about 25 pounds at 120 mph. That, and the motorola is way faster than any car that the crooks got.
Any more questions, shoot em my way.
OK. Several questions to answer here.
1)Texas state troopers are making approximately $28,000 while in the academy. Depending on where you live in Texas, that may or may not be good money. Once a Trooper graduates the mandatory 6 month academy in Austin, the pay goes to approximately $33,000 a year. As a local officer in Huntsville, I only make about $33,000 myself. In Huntsville, however thats not a bad salary. Most of the people in the county strive to bring in 20,000 a year.
2)I don't really have any complaints about my job. I hear Troopers all the time wishing they had not become troopers. Troopers pretty much just work traffic on public highways and work accidents. If you want to be what troopers themselves call "real officers" then you need to join a local police force or county agency. We unfornately get to deal with domestic violence calls, burglaries, roberies and the such. In addition, we too get to work traffic and accidents. To say the least, it reduces the boredom.
3)Police package vehicles have long been exagerated by supersticion. When a cars is equiped with a police package, it simply has much stronger suspension parts, reinforced frame rails, heavy duty alternator and air conditioning equipment, and occasionally an enhanced computer or fuel management system. Most people talk of heavily modified mustangs and camaros that will run in excess of 160 mph. There are a few TX DPS slick top camaros that could probably come close to that, but its not the norm. The average Police Crown Vic with the ever so aerodynamic lightbar will run around 130 mph continuously. Thats plenty fast enough considering the whole car only weighs about 25 pounds at 120 mph. That, and the motorola is way faster than any car that the crooks got.
Any more questions, shoot em my way.
Originally posted by giomontini
In Baltimore City, the Police Dept. has some cool cop cars. They have an Impala, Mustang and Camaro. I think these cars are great to have for chasing after those hoodlooms in the city.
In Baltimore City, the Police Dept. has some cool cop cars. They have an Impala, Mustang and Camaro. I think these cars are great to have for chasing after those hoodlooms in the city.
The Impala is a new popular choice now.
Some departements and cities use different vehicles according to their need.
Some states I believe use Hummers in some areas, and some use Impalas, Crown Vics, Luminas...
Some use done up cars... I won't say when or for what.
Ok I got a few questions about the traffic police:
WHen on the highway, if all the cars are going say 20km/h above the limit, will they pull someone over for doing 20km/h over? What I mean to say is: if everyone is following the flow of the traffic (even if its 20 over) will someone be pulled over? (for Riot^: this relates to the 401 and 400..where i notice it the most).
And why are TO cops so **** about giving tickets if the registartion isn't signed in black ink or if the sticker isn't on the registration. I got both tickets..and I fought it. As it turned out, everyone in the courtroom was for that one police officer that pulled me over and most of them were for hte same charges. Of course I showed them teh signed registation (which was in my mom's name but I got hte ticket) and they dropped both tickets (each $110) to a total of $40. Now my question is, will this stay on my record and jack up my insurance rates?
Thanks.
WHen on the highway, if all the cars are going say 20km/h above the limit, will they pull someone over for doing 20km/h over? What I mean to say is: if everyone is following the flow of the traffic (even if its 20 over) will someone be pulled over? (for Riot^: this relates to the 401 and 400..where i notice it the most).
And why are TO cops so **** about giving tickets if the registartion isn't signed in black ink or if the sticker isn't on the registration. I got both tickets..and I fought it. As it turned out, everyone in the courtroom was for that one police officer that pulled me over and most of them were for hte same charges. Of course I showed them teh signed registation (which was in my mom's name but I got hte ticket) and they dropped both tickets (each $110) to a total of $40. Now my question is, will this stay on my record and jack up my insurance rates?
Thanks.
I carry a Sig Sauer P229 in a .40 S&W caliber. I carry Speer Gold Dot ammo in a very hot 155 gr. Actually has more knock down power than a .45 Auto. Som eof our officers are switching to the .357 Sig round which is basically a .40 cal brass casing with a 9mm bullet. Two words "Extremely HOT." This round, issued to a Texas State Troopers, has been known to penetrate an entire engine block and wound a suspect with the flack exiting the fender. In my opinion, up north in the winter months, this might be a very usefull round with all the heavy clothing, down here however, I think its overkill.
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Originally posted by Stereodude
Any real member of Maxima.org wouldn't get pulled over. They'd be able to evade and outrun the local Po-Po.
So I believe the question is actually moot.
Stereodude
Any real member of Maxima.org wouldn't get pulled over. They'd be able to evade and outrun the local Po-Po.
So I believe the question is actually moot.Stereodude
smart huh! somehow he lost him in the small streets though, only problem is residental streets dont have enough room to hold a car doin 110mph. like 30sec after he lost the cops, the cops fouind him because of a boom they heard, it was a 100,000volt generator that he hit and (was the size of a suburban) and made it roll twice! he also knocked down a fire hidrent so u do the math, water+voltage= well u know. i dont know how he made i out alive, he actually walked out after getting 30ft of air(not vertical) hitting a generator, and walkin over the water, he should have been fried, dumba$$ is lucky hes alive.
I've been thinking of purchasing a H&K USP in .40Cal >>
Originally posted by fst96se
Glock22, .40 cal
Considered the HK USP Compact .40, but never a .45....The .40 is a good compromise between a 9mm and a .45. The .40 has nearly the stopping power of a .45, but not nearly as hot a round. I think that it is less suceptable to overpenetration, meaning that it is less likely to pass through a body or a wall.
Glock22, .40 cal
Considered the HK USP Compact .40, but never a .45....The .40 is a good compromise between a 9mm and a .45. The .40 has nearly the stopping power of a .45, but not nearly as hot a round. I think that it is less suceptable to overpenetration, meaning that it is less likely to pass through a body or a wall.
I didn't know that the .40 Cal cartridge was so popular. I always figured it was a mix of mostly 9mmPara and the .45ACP.
Re: I've been thinking of purchasing a H&K USP in .40Cal >>
Originally posted by Albertt
Of course, I will be getting a license first. I've held the USP in .45...it has such a large frame...I felt that my grip on it was not good enough.
I didn't know that the .40 Cal cartridge was so popular. I always figured it was a mix of mostly 9mmPara and the .45ACP.
Of course, I will be getting a license first. I've held the USP in .45...it has such a large frame...I felt that my grip on it was not good enough.
I didn't know that the .40 Cal cartridge was so popular. I always figured it was a mix of mostly 9mmPara and the .45ACP.
Oh, I use Federal Hydrashoks. I have also used Remington Golden Saber's and Speer Gold Dots. All good rounds, the department here issues Federal Hydrashoks though.
That's something else I didn't know >>
Originally posted by fst96se
A huge number of Law Enforcement agencies are going to the .40 cal. The first to really push the .40 was the FBI. They all now carry the Glock22 or the Glock23. If you have smaller hands, the Glock23 *might* be okay. I hava sister-in-law who is a sherrif's deputy, and they gave her a Barreta 96... .40 cal and HUGE. If you hold a Colt 1911 .45, you won't feel like the frame is huge....put it also only holds 8 rounds. Put a 9mm, a .40 cal, and a .45 cal round next to each other, and the .40 is right square in the middle size wise.
Oh, I use Federal Hydrashoks. I have also used Remington Golden Saber's and Speer Gold Dots. All good rounds, the department here issues Federal Hydrashoks though.
A huge number of Law Enforcement agencies are going to the .40 cal. The first to really push the .40 was the FBI. They all now carry the Glock22 or the Glock23. If you have smaller hands, the Glock23 *might* be okay. I hava sister-in-law who is a sherrif's deputy, and they gave her a Barreta 96... .40 cal and HUGE. If you hold a Colt 1911 .45, you won't feel like the frame is huge....put it also only holds 8 rounds. Put a 9mm, a .40 cal, and a .45 cal round next to each other, and the .40 is right square in the middle size wise.
Oh, I use Federal Hydrashoks. I have also used Remington Golden Saber's and Speer Gold Dots. All good rounds, the department here issues Federal Hydrashoks though.
Also, I've held a modified 1911 with Hogue grips...nice feel...but your right about the 8 round limit...not a good thing when it comes to law enforcement. How do you feel about Para-Ordinance's .45? I've never seen one up close, so I don't know much about them.
Re: Re: I've been thinking of purchasing a H&K USP in .40Cal >>
Originally posted by fst96se
A huge number of Law Enforcement agencies are going to the .40 cal. The first to really push the .40 was the FBI. They all now carry the Glock22 or the Glock23. If you have smaller hands, the Glock23 *might* be okay. I hava sister-in-law who is a sherrif's deputy, and they gave her a Barreta 96... .40 cal and HUGE. If you hold a Colt 1911 .45, you won't feel like the frame is huge....put it also only holds 8 rounds. Put a 9mm, a .40 cal, and a .45 cal round next to each other, and the .40 is right square in the middle size wise.
Oh, I use Federal Hydrashoks. I have also used Remington Golden Saber's and Speer Gold Dots. All good rounds, the department here issues Federal Hydrashoks though.
A huge number of Law Enforcement agencies are going to the .40 cal. The first to really push the .40 was the FBI. They all now carry the Glock22 or the Glock23. If you have smaller hands, the Glock23 *might* be okay. I hava sister-in-law who is a sherrif's deputy, and they gave her a Barreta 96... .40 cal and HUGE. If you hold a Colt 1911 .45, you won't feel like the frame is huge....put it also only holds 8 rounds. Put a 9mm, a .40 cal, and a .45 cal round next to each other, and the .40 is right square in the middle size wise.
Oh, I use Federal Hydrashoks. I have also used Remington Golden Saber's and Speer Gold Dots. All good rounds, the department here issues Federal Hydrashoks though.
I used to have the Glock .40 - It was a great round but as it was for personal protection and I wanted a carry gun (yes I'm permitted, but not an officer). I got the Glock 26 9mm and keep it loaded with hydroshocks. They have good stopping power - I wouldn't carry anything else in it. Could've gone with the 27 (.40) but got a great deal. The only issue I have with that frame is the size. I needed to put an mag extender on it fo it to feel comfortable. I also have a Titanium hammerless Taurus with ported barrel that I keep +P 38's. Also a good carry gun. For competition, it's the "Contender" all the way, though.
Cars and Guns talk - wotta site. I love it!
ahem... er... back to topic.
Shaydz
Pistols (so, where do OT threads go?)
Originally posted by Shaydz
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Cars and Guns talk - wotta site. I love it!
ahem... er... back to topic.
Shaydz
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Cars and Guns talk - wotta site. I love it!
ahem... er... back to topic.
Shaydz
It's the same size as the traditional 1911 style Officer's Model, but with a slightly thicker grip, to accomodate a double stack magazine.
It came with a 10 round mag, thanks to the Black Gun and Liberal Magazine ban, but I was able to buy two 12 round mags from Para-Ordnance (when the BGLM ban was on the horizon, lots of manufacturers went 24/7 building full capacity magazines, since existing ones were not made illegal)
It's certainly as accurate as I need ... I can clear a rail of 6 inch steel plates from 25 yards fairly quickly.
12 rounds of .45 (HydraShoks) and one up the pipe, whoo hoo! A former Marine told me that I don't need another magazine, I need close air support!
Originally posted by mAdD MAX
Ok I got a few questions about the traffic police:
WHen on the highway, if all the cars are going say 20km/h above the limit, will they pull someone over for doing 20km/h over? What I mean to say is: if everyone is following the flow of the traffic (even if its 20 over) will someone be pulled over? (for Riot^: this relates to the 401 and 400..where i notice it the most).
And why are TO cops so **** about giving tickets if the registartion isn't signed in black ink or if the sticker isn't on the registration. I got both tickets..and I fought it. As it turned out, everyone in the courtroom was for that one police officer that pulled me over and most of them were for hte same charges. Of course I showed them teh signed registation (which was in my mom's name but I got hte ticket) and they dropped both tickets (each $110) to a total of $40. Now my question is, will this stay on my record and jack up my insurance rates?
Thanks.
Ok I got a few questions about the traffic police:
WHen on the highway, if all the cars are going say 20km/h above the limit, will they pull someone over for doing 20km/h over? What I mean to say is: if everyone is following the flow of the traffic (even if its 20 over) will someone be pulled over? (for Riot^: this relates to the 401 and 400..where i notice it the most).
And why are TO cops so **** about giving tickets if the registartion isn't signed in black ink or if the sticker isn't on the registration. I got both tickets..and I fought it. As it turned out, everyone in the courtroom was for that one police officer that pulled me over and most of them were for hte same charges. Of course I showed them teh signed registation (which was in my mom's name but I got hte ticket) and they dropped both tickets (each $110) to a total of $40. Now my question is, will this stay on my record and jack up my insurance rates?
Thanks.
It is your duty to make sure all your papers are in correct order and are up to date. Some officers in traffic unit will recieve specific orders to do a sweep of certain areas, certain criteria of HTA.
Remember this, for ever cop there is a supervisor that may be issuing orders to him/her, so not all cops are power hungry and are **** about things. They are doing their job.
sorry i missed out on this thread, i've been on vacation for a few days (went to visit grandma), but i'm a police officer in central fl, and our department use the smith & wesson 4506 (4516 for detectives its shorter), i'm assigned to the police athletic league and i'm a swat team member
ddoles >>
Originally posted by ddoles
sorry i missed out on this thread, i've been on vacation for a few days (went to visit grandma), but i'm a police officer in central fl, and our department use the smith & wesson 4506 (4516 for detectives its shorter), i'm assigned to the police athletic league and i'm a swat team member
sorry i missed out on this thread, i've been on vacation for a few days (went to visit grandma), but i'm a police officer in central fl, and our department use the smith & wesson 4506 (4516 for detectives its shorter), i'm assigned to the police athletic league and i'm a swat team member
yes, and we do carry mp5, as a matter of fact we just did a search warrant this morning (5 am), some members will also carry shotguns, just depends on the situation, sometimes we use gas and distraction devices (flash bang) sometime we don't



