Yeah, if you could have done that, you'd get alot more attension...otherwise it might be 'oh another vortech '

Just out of curiosity, if your going to use a centrifugal like the Stealin' kit, what are you going to do to reduce the cost? Are you just going to take a smaller profit since I doubt you can reduce the cost of piping, clamps, etc from the Stillen one...

 

As far as piping goes, perhaps you can work with Cobymoby to get them at a good price?

 

Ethan,

God bless you for trying to fabricate this together!

I would really love to see a kit that boosts differently then our traditional V1 and V2 high spool deals. I crave down low power, would that be possible? Anything close to a roots is what I want. Also, how would it sound? I REALLY don't want a quiet supercharger..if I've spend this much $ and am this much faster, I want people to know it!! Besides, nothing beats the sound of the whine of the SC, I would quiet down my duals for that even!

 

I am interested Ethan. May I suggest a Powerdyne blower though? They have no oil lines (which is a definate plus).

Brian

 

Silentdrive? Ugh...too quiet!!! Need noise!!

 

roots blower.. boooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

one of the very few times I agree with you.



Ethan, wouldn't it be coo to have all that sh!tloads of power in the lower power band to scare the hell outta people w/o having to take it to dangerously high speeds? Let's take a hint from the GTP, lightning, Xterra, frontier, 03 Cobra, SC regal, ect. ....everyone knows roots is the best for butt dyno's and big block like power

 

I notice they have a kit coming soon for the Civic though..

 

Just out of curiosity, could the one from the frontier adapt to our 3.0L somehow?

 

no

 

Because?

 

they have VG engines and we have VQ's.. for starters..

 

What are the difference between the blowers, the roots, the centrifugal ones etc?

 

Superchargers 101

 

nice link mike..

 

I've just got too much time on my hands



i miss having a job... *sniff*

 

after reading mikes link... the powerdyne isn't roots.. i take that back

 

I wasn't sure what your booooo post meant - now I do.

Brian

 

 

other than these three types... the blower, screw and centrifugal...
there aren't any other prototype or atypical SCs?

 

You've got a buyer in me... lets get it on! 2 requests: keep the install clean & keep it quiet - this is a 'flagship' car, not a street rod...

 

What is the compression ratio of the VG motors? I know ours is 10.3:1...which is pretty high for a sueprcharger, but not too high. I'm thinking a maximum of 6-8 psi? I would be very interested in a supercharger kit.

Jesse

 

I got quoted, from a custom shop, about 7G to develop a custom S/C kit for my 02' Max. I am not too concerned about cost, but 7G is just too much. If you would be able to develop a strong, reliable product - I would be willing to pay good money for it (at some point – want to make sure it is reliable). I think most of the people here, that are serious buyers, would put quality above cost.

Maybe if you want to hit a price point, make some of the stuff (that may not be necessary for function) optional. IE you can buy a base kit with everything you need to make it work for 2800 or you can buy an intercooler, fuel pump, FPR, gauges, etc kit for 4000. Just giving an example.

Good luck to you,
Brian

 

interesting....keep us posted

 

Wow, I got a lot more feedback then I expected today thank you all for sharing your ideas with me. A good part of today I have been looking things over on my car and browsing through varuis SC's. After doing research today I have singled my SC choice down to the "whipple unit" one. The main reason is it is the only SC that will work for my application. The kit I am planning to make is going to be very simple yet very affective, I have figured out a way to make the install even easier today. If you can put a Y-pipe on you will probably be able to put this SC on. You guys are going to love what I have planned out "if" I get it to work

 

Stop posting and get to work already! j/k

 

I'm getting very excited. Hope that's not an overstatement. Or is it understatement? I'm confused. Its end of the work day and my brain is done for today.

 

ethan we should talk, if your interested. i have something big going down RIGHT NOW. if you want try and call me when you get in, 413-289-2136 i don't want to let the cat out of the bad quite yet.

 

Its not about the money but RELIABILITY. I want a kit that I dont have to worry about. Examples are "STILLEN" I would put a SC but Stillen s u c k s! Go right ahead and make one emax.

 

Possible interest here, but many members have brought up some good, strong points...I'm listening...

 

ethan, if you do this and it works well i will buy one without any doubt whatsoever.

 

You are talking about a normal y-pipe right?? Not an emax95 special y-pipe install where you remove the exhaust manifolds?

 

Craig how many times do I have to tell you that a Roots blower wont fit?? You would need a cowl type hood or a custom manifold made which would cost $$$$$. Many of the cars listed above such as the GTP, Lightening, and Cobra have a lot of tq because of the engine displacement.

 

You are right about the displacement, but we have great torque for our displacement, and you know our cars would be BEASTS around town with roots blowers.

Are their only 3 SC types? (roots/centri/screw) ? I think it would be cool if there was an "in between" that we could fit under our hood without any hood work.

 

The problem I see with a Roots type blower on our cars is wheelspin. With the increase of low end tq this would become a major problem. Also, I believe GTP owners have problems with S/C heat when they put smaller pullies on it.

 

Well, there's the electric supercharger. But you wouldn't want that

 

LOL...i remember seeing a pic once of a guy hooking up a electric leaf blower to his car. I believe it was a Bimmer

 

too bad the stillen kit will put out more horsepower than the whipple at higher rpms and the raising of boost on the stillen kit will put out way more hp than the whipple.. its too bad you can't stick with a centrifugal blower

 

Flipped to the DRIVERs' side of course:

1)It's a Vortech, so the install would be simpler with the "cross bar" setup ABOVE, because there is plenty of room on the DRIVERs' side of the engine bay NOT between the hood or manifold.
2)It's a Vortech, so we can use the Vortech SFMU.
3)It's a Vortech, so we can use the Vortech AFTERCOOLER(~$1K w/kit) and we don't need to worry about a custom intercooler/piping.
4)It's a Vortech, so it's a centrifugal type which can be intercooled/aftercooled EASILY for 8+psi applications compared to a roots/screw type.
5)It's a Vortech, so it's a simple pulley swap to produce more boost efficiently.
6)It's a Vortech, so it's the ONLY type that builds more power as the engine RPMs rise into the higher RPMs and the VQ is built for this especially with a MEVI manifold or -K engine.
7)It's a Vortech, so it builds power as the RPMs rise which is more streetable and easier for a heavy FWD car to handle.
8)The Maxima has PLENTY of torque off idle, especially with a manual trans..

There are many pluses/minuses for each type of SC, but IMO the centrifugal fits the Maxima PERFECTLY if your running 8+psi.

Good luck, which ever way you chose Ethan. Also, you may want to talk to Cattman, since he mentioned he's thinking/working on a SC kit to be prototyped by December, so maybe you could join forces AGAINST $tealin.

 

i didn't think that you were actually going to go through with your s/c idea! and to think... it all started from changing a belt on my car. hey, since my car gave you the idea, you think i get get a cut in the pofits? or maybe a discounted sc for myself! heh heh heh. j/k, good luck with it though ethan. later