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Old 09-12-2002 | 11:17 PM
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Whats your favorite intake?

I wanna hear ups and downs.
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:00 AM
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Re: Whats your favorite intake?

Originally posted by Morpheus
I wanna hear ups and downs.
Nissan Maxima OEM intake.
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:03 AM
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Re: Re: Whats your favorite intake?

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Nissan Maxima OEM intake.
Injen, no drilling, great looks, good gains.
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:13 AM
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Since you didn't put what year in your profile, I guess I'll go with 4th Gen.

2 wks ago I was in love with my Stillen Intake, ever since yesterday I've been in love with my Injen CAI

Stillen
Pros:
Good pull @ high rpms
V8 muscle car thundering roar sound
Ease of installation (30 mins)
It's Stillen!!!

Cons:
Hot air
Bottom end loss (requires an upper piping, about $60 to get your solve this prob)
V8 muscle car thundering roar sound (It could be loud!)
It's Stillen (price)!!!

Injen
Pros:
Cold Air
No bottom end loss
Sounds better (not as loud)
The cool factor
Ease of installation (2 hrs)
No drilling holes in your fender

Cons:
Water (Rains here 8 months out of the year)
Price

I was told that Pop Charger = Top End, CAI = Bottom End.

Tifosi
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Tifosi
Since you didn't put what year in your profile, I guess I'll go with 4th Gen.

2 wks ago I was in love with my Stillen Intake, ever since yesterday I've been in love with my Injen CAI

Stillen
Pros:
Good pull @ high rpms
V8 muscle car thundering roar sound
Ease of installation (30 mins)
It's Stillen!!!

Cons:
Hot air
Bottom end loss (requires an upper piping, about $60 to get your solve this prob)
V8 muscle car thundering roar sound (It could be loud!)
It's Stillen (price)!!!

Injen
Pros:
Cold Air
No bottom end loss
Sounds better (not as loud)
The cool factor
Ease of installation (2 hrs)
No drilling holes in your fender

Cons:
Water (Rains here 8 months out of the year)
Price

I was told that Pop Charger = Top End, CAI = Bottom End.

Tifosi
All great points except two hours for injen install?? What were you doin with your time??
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KSESteve

All great points except two hours for injen install?? What were you doin with your time??
Letting the engine cool off... Plus my right wrist was in a huge brace (bad bad tendonitis)!!! So it was pretty much an all left hand job. Oops, did I just say that???
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:28 AM
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favorite intake?



supercharger





Old 09-13-2002 | 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by Tifosi


Letting the engine cool off... Plus my right wrist was in a huge brace (bad bad tendonitis)!!! So it was pretty much an all left hand job. Oops, did I just say that???
alright thas understandable then...
Old 09-13-2002 | 04:31 AM
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When i get an intake, i am getting the Frankencar Hybrid
Old 09-13-2002 | 06:56 AM
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I have a 96 5 spd SE

What about JWT?
Old 09-13-2002 | 07:31 AM
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frankencar!!
Old 09-13-2002 | 09:03 AM
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INJEN CAI

INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI!


Ya got power when you want it.
Ya got growl when you want it.
Easy Installation.
Ya get when they open the hood.
Ya get when you kick next to them as you pass.

Cheaper than Maxima Steroids......
No problems with Emissions....
No complaints from wife that it sounds like a race car...cuz she never hits it.

I just can't say enough about it.


Shaydz
Old 09-13-2002 | 09:48 AM
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Re: Re: Whats your favorite intake?

Originally posted by syc
Nissan Maxima OEM intake.
With my secret mod.
Old 09-13-2002 | 10:20 AM
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place racing CAI... or a SC CAI
Old 09-13-2002 | 10:29 AM
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OSCAI + K&N Panel filter

Cold Air
Quiet
Cheap
Looks stock
Dyno proven gains
Old 09-13-2002 | 03:37 PM
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JAT= CHEAP and is same as stillen pop. $100) then you ad a hybrid for $50 then you get the best of both worlds for amazing $150
Old 09-13-2002 | 06:24 PM
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FrankenCar hands down!!!!
Old 09-14-2002 | 07:45 AM
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Re: INJEN CAI

Originally posted by Shaydz
INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI INJEN CAI!


Ya got power when you want it.
Ya got growl when you want it.
Easy Installation.
Ya get when they open the hood.
Ya get when you kick next to them as you pass.

Cheaper than Maxima Steroids......
No problems with Emissions....
No complaints from wife that it sounds like a race car...cuz she never hits it.

I just can't say enough about it.


Shaydz
how much do they cost and do you have the website?
Old 09-14-2002 | 09:54 AM
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Re: Re: INJEN CAI

Originally posted by Nore474


how much do they cost and do you have the website?
There are oh so many posts on this intake, but rather than throw out the "Use the Search" thing,

You can see the Injen stuff at www.injen.com and the best price going is at http://www.adventon.com/acb/showprod...tGroup_ID=1456 ($218.85- $234 w/shipping) for your 95 SE Polished.

I think there is a group deal starting up though. Check the Group Deal forum.

Then again, maybe you should use a search. A lot of info and pics out there.

Heres mine:

http://www.crick.org/bam/max/images/intakeonly.jpg

Shaydz
Old 09-14-2002 | 02:41 PM
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Intake??

Originally posted by deezo
FrankenCar hands down!!!!
I hear that the advantage of a pop charger is less restriction because it bolts almost directly to your throttle body, however it draws in hot air.

With the CAI the advantage is colder/denser air, but the tube is restricting.
I have also heard that on a launch the air inside the tube creates a ram effect because it doesn't have to go through the filter so it is sucked up faster. But this is just false, I can see where they would THINK that when at a stop, then launching WOT, the air that was already present in the tube would be sucked up immediatly because it was not restricted by a filter as is the incoming air that first has to pass through the filter. Maybe the analogy of putting a filter on the end of a straw would help, fill the straw(this represents the CAI tube) half way with water (representing the air already in the tube), then emerse the end of the straw with a filter in a cup of water(representing outside air), then suck up the water from the cup. They would say that the water present in the straw would immediatly be sucked up while it would take slightly longer to suck any of the water out of the cup up, but this is just not so. The air in the intake will only move as fast as the incoming air from the filter, think about smoking devices.

So what advantage does the frankencar offer, it seems that because it has more tubing, and still resides in the engine bay, that a pop charger would be better?
Old 09-14-2002 | 03:09 PM
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Re: Intake??

Originally posted by Street Reeper


I hear that the advantage of a pop charger is less restriction because it bolts almost directly to your throttle body, however it draws in hot air.

With the CAI the advantage is colder/denser air, but the tube is restricting.
I have also heard that on a launch the air inside the tube creates a ram effect because it doesn't have to go through the filter so it is sucked up faster. But this is just false, I can see where they would THINK that when at a stop, then launching WOT, the air that was already present in the tube would be sucked up immediatly because it was not restricted by a filter as is the incoming air that first has to pass through the filter. Maybe the analogy of putting a filter on the end of a straw would help, fill the straw(this represents the CAI tube) half way with water (representing the air already in the tube), then emerse the end of the straw with a filter in a cup of water(representing outside air), then suck up the water from the cup. They would say that the water present in the straw would immediatly be sucked up while it would take slightly longer to suck any of the water out of the cup up, but this is just not so. The air in the intake will only move as fast as the incoming air from the filter, think about smoking devices.

So what advantage does the frankencar offer, it seems that because it has more tubing, and still resides in the engine bay, that a pop charger would be better?



I like the smoking anology.

From what I've read, a CAI is better than Berk, Stillen, Frankencar, etc because the air coming into the engine is cooler. Cooler air is more O2 rich and (I'm not exactly sure of the physiss, but) cooler air provides better combustion in the engine because going from cold to hot releases more enegry (power).
I have a berk and the filter basically sits on top of the TB. However, this isn't always good. Sometimes it feels like it's trying to take in TOO much air. Plus, when it's really hot outside, the car feels sluggish. I cannot compare it to the stock box in hot temps because I bought the car in the winter.

The pipe on the AEM CAI is not very restrictive.
Old 09-14-2002 | 10:54 PM
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Re: Intake??

Originally posted by Street Reeper


I hear that the advantage of a pop charger is less restriction because it bolts almost directly to your throttle body, however it draws in hot air.

With the CAI the advantage is colder/denser air, but the tube is restricting.
I have also heard that on a launch the air inside the tube creates a ram effect because it doesn't have to go through the filter so it is sucked up faster. But this is just false, I can see where they would THINK that when at a stop, then launching WOT, the air that was already present in the tube would be sucked up immediatly because it was not restricted by a filter as is the incoming air that first has to pass through the filter. Maybe the analogy of putting a filter on the end of a straw would help, fill the straw(this represents the CAI tube) half way with water (representing the air already in the tube), then emerse the end of the straw with a filter in a cup of water(representing outside air), then suck up the water from the cup. They would say that the water present in the straw would immediatly be sucked up while it would take slightly longer to suck any of the water out of the cup up, but this is just not so. The air in the intake will only move as fast as the incoming air from the filter, think about smoking devices.

So what advantage does the frankencar offer, it seems that because it has more tubing, and still resides in the engine bay, that a pop charger would be better?
you did some thinking but not really true.

first, air being sucked into the engine has to go thru much more turns and curves with CAI. this means the tube will slow down the speed of the air due to air friction. The higher the rpm, the higher the speed, and the higer of air friction.
Second, the velocity of the air to the engine is not constant. think of it this way, say you got a really short straw and a really long straw. with the long straw, you first suck the water slowly and suddenly suck it really hard. does the water suddenly go to your mouth a lot? and what happen to the short straw? throtte response?

I'm not saying the CAI is worse than the pop since the cooler air. but think about why the pop still exist in some NA race cars.
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Old 09-15-2002 | 05:22 PM
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I would say Frankencar!!!!
Old 09-15-2002 | 07:58 PM
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k thanks for all your input i think i decided on a CAI

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Originally posted by Morpheus
k thanks for all your input i think i decided on a CAI

CAI gives you better low end torque....RAM air intake gives you
better high end..
Old 09-15-2002 | 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Tifosi


Letting the engine cool off... Plus my right wrist was in a huge brace (bad bad tendonitis)!!! So it was pretty much an all left hand job. Oops, did I just say that???
don't forget the sound clip!!
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Old 09-16-2002 | 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by acMAX


CAI gives you better low end torque....RAM air intake gives you
better high end..
Yeah but RAM loses low end torque, right?
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Old 09-16-2002 | 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Morpheus


Yeah but RAM loses low end torque, right?

yes.

you'll lose low end torque with an exhaust as well (whether it's
a rear section or a full catback)
Old 09-16-2002 | 08:21 AM
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Originally, I was thinking of getting a Stillen Intake Kit. Is there any distinct advantages to getting an Injen CAI? ? ?




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Old 09-16-2002 | 09:12 AM
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yes.

you'll lose low end torque with an exhaust as well (whether it's
a rear section or a full catback)
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I've been browsing a bit on the forums and it seems like a lot of people have CAI's. I've read in numerous posts though that the Stillen Kit makes your Max sound like a V-8. This is a turnoff for me because I like for those Mustang guys out there to think that I'm running a weak V-6 which we all know is not true. For those that have pulled up to a stoplight next to a Stang, you know that you wanna make him think that you got nothing under the hood. That surprised look on their face when you finish beating them is just classic. Thats more or less what I'm aiming at.
As for the Injen CAI discussed in this post, I think I'm leaning more towards it rather than Stillen.


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Old 09-16-2002 | 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by IncandescentSE
I've read in numerous posts though that the Stillen Kit makes your Max sound like a V-8. This is a turnoff for me because I like for those Mustang guys out there to think that I'm running a weak V-6 which we all know is not true. That surprised look on their face when you finish beating them is just classic. As for the Injen CAI discussed in this post, I think I'm leaning more towards it rather than Stillen.
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The Injen AND Place Racing CAI's are LOUDER than Stillen's or JWT's popcharger...

people tend to exaggerate just a bit.....
Old 09-16-2002 | 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by IncandescentSE
I've been browsing a bit on the forums and it seems like a lot of people have CAI's. I've read in numerous posts though that the Stillen Kit makes your Max sound like a V-8. This is a turnoff for me because I like for those Mustang guys out there to think that I'm running a weak V-6 which we all know is not true. For those that have pulled up to a stoplight next to a Stang, you know that you wanna make him think that you got nothing under the hood. That surprised look on their face when you finish beating them is just classic. Thats more or less what I'm aiming at.
As for the Injen CAI discussed in this post, I think I'm leaning more towards it rather than Stillen.


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I have the Hybrid from Frankencar and it nowhere sounds like a weak V6. It sound like a very powerful V6. All you need to do is hook up with someone with a hybrid intake and you'll hear the goodness.
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Originally posted by acMAX


The Injen AND Place Racing CAI's are LOUDER than Stillen's or JWT's popcharger...

people tend to exaggerate just a bit.....

i had the stillen and now have the injen and the stillen is definitely much louder because its closer to you as well, as compared to the injen, which sits all the way up in front behind the radiator.

the stillen is a shorter intake compared to the injen which has piping, so the stillen sucks directly into the throttle body, while the air in the injen cai has to travel a distance when you floor it. thats why the stillen sucks so hard and has a big growl like a v8.
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Re: nope

Originally posted by NisMoMAX01SE



i had the stillen and now have the injen and the stillen is definitely much louder because its closer to you as well, as compared to the injen, which sits all the way up in front behind the radiator.

the stillen is a shorter intake compared to the injen which has piping, so the stillen sucks directly into the throttle body, while the air in the injen cai has to travel a distance when you floor it. thats why the stillen sucks so hard and has a big growl like a v8.
what aboot performance, eh?
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Is there a downfall to Injen CAI?
Old 09-16-2002 | 03:17 PM
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Yea any pop charger or intake with a midpipe will almost undoubtedly be louder than any CAI. The only downside I can see to it is that people dont consider it to be a "real" CAI because it sits behind the radiator. Wrap it with some of that intake stuff to keep the pipe a little cooler and it would probably help quite a bit as well. Just my $0.02



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